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Huck
07-18-2007, 11:39 AM
Hi Alan, I didn't know you were on the forum! I have owned your Lark Custom R1, for 10 Summers and still love the beast. Was hoping to meet you in South Bend but alas, did not. I also tried writting you but snail mail didn't work. Please tell me the details of why you built the Custom the way it is. Unlike the R1, in the latest discussion, this one has stayed together. OK to share your story with the forum. Peace,Huck in Ford country

Gary Hildebrandt

Huck
07-18-2007, 11:41 AM
Sorry for the SP error.It's Allan Songer.

Gary Hildebrandt

Huck
07-18-2007, 11:41 AM
Sorry for the SP error.It's Allan Songer.

Gary Hildebrandt

Allan Songer
07-18-2007, 12:13 PM
Damn I miss that car! I built it for my wife as a surprise birthday present to replace her '62 Hawk which was TIRED and she was TIRED of it!--it took 10 months of stealth work to do it--and she took one look at it and said "I want a truck." So I sold the car to you and bought the '55 E7 that she's been driving ever since! If I remember right you got a HECK of a deal--that was one sweet Lark--an original CA car with ZERO rust, NOS trim EVERYWHERE, NOS upholstery--the only thing I couldn't find was a new dash pad and ended up with one of those covers--maybe you found a nice one and have since fixed that little problem? I only had the car for about 15 months and sold it about 2 1/2 months after finishing it. Do you still have those little dogdish hubcaps on it with the blue wheels? I think it looks so MEAN with those!

That was a STRONG R1 motor--balanced, blueprinted, nitrided crank, stainless valves, hardened seats, etc. It is the fastest Studebaker I have ever owned--plus it had that beautiful blue paint and the snazzy 2-tone blue/white buckets and a 4-speed!

I am so glad you still have the car!! Any recent pictures? I have NOTHING but fond memories of that one!

Allan Songer
07-18-2007, 12:13 PM
Damn I miss that car! I built it for my wife as a surprise birthday present to replace her '62 Hawk which was TIRED and she was TIRED of it!--it took 10 months of stealth work to do it--and she took one look at it and said "I want a truck." So I sold the car to you and bought the '55 E7 that she's been driving ever since! If I remember right you got a HECK of a deal--that was one sweet Lark--an original CA car with ZERO rust, NOS trim EVERYWHERE, NOS upholstery--the only thing I couldn't find was a new dash pad and ended up with one of those covers--maybe you found a nice one and have since fixed that little problem? I only had the car for about 15 months and sold it about 2 1/2 months after finishing it. Do you still have those little dogdish hubcaps on it with the blue wheels? I think it looks so MEAN with those!

That was a STRONG R1 motor--balanced, blueprinted, nitrided crank, stainless valves, hardened seats, etc. It is the fastest Studebaker I have ever owned--plus it had that beautiful blue paint and the snazzy 2-tone blue/white buckets and a 4-speed!

I am so glad you still have the car!! Any recent pictures? I have NOTHING but fond memories of that one!

Guido
07-18-2007, 12:16 PM
Gary,

Just a couple of tips that may help you out. On your original post you can click on the "edit" button (it's the one with the pencil) and correct your spelling in the topic header.

Also, you can contact any member of the Forum via e-mail. Using the member button at the top of the page, search under the "A's" (he uses Allan Songer as his Forum name) and click on his name. Then hit the "Click to Send an E-mail" button in the upper left hand corner and craft your message. Allan will get an e-mail message through the Forum and can then respond back directly to you.

Gary (AKA Decimal Dude)

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
07-18-2007, 12:16 PM
Gary,

Just a couple of tips that may help you out. On your original post you can click on the "edit" button (it's the one with the pencil) and correct your spelling in the topic header.

Also, you can contact any member of the Forum via e-mail. Using the member button at the top of the page, search under the "A's" (he uses Allan Songer as his Forum name) and click on his name. Then hit the "Click to Send an E-mail" button in the upper left hand corner and craft your message. Allan will get an e-mail message through the Forum and can then respond back directly to you.

Gary (AKA Decimal Dude)

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Allan Songer
07-18-2007, 12:29 PM
This is the only pic I have of the car--I think this is one of the pics I sent you when you were considering the purchase. Just looking at this pic makes me tear up a bit! What a NICE Lark!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c58/runsgood99/6320lark1.jpg

Allan Songer
07-18-2007, 12:29 PM
This is the only pic I have of the car--I think this is one of the pics I sent you when you were considering the purchase. Just looking at this pic makes me tear up a bit! What a NICE Lark!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c58/runsgood99/6320lark1.jpg

Roscomacaw
07-18-2007, 12:59 PM
SHARP!;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
07-18-2007, 12:59 PM
SHARP!;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Allan Songer
07-18-2007, 01:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

SHARP!;)



The photo doesn't do the car justice--it was BEAUTIFUL.

By the way, Huck--if you ever want your money back . . . .

Allan Songer
07-18-2007, 01:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

SHARP!;)



The photo doesn't do the car justice--it was BEAUTIFUL.

By the way, Huck--if you ever want your money back . . . .

PackardV8
07-18-2007, 01:18 PM
Post Script - File under lessons learned: Can't count the number of project cars built for wives, girlfriends, sons, daughters, grandchildren, which were not appreciated as much as was hoped. We tend to build what we like, not what they want to drive. One friend couldn't understand why his son wouldn't drive a restored 1931 Model A Ford sedan to high school. Another body shop friend can't understand why his wife is afraid to drive a show-quality Chevy pickup with a very hot big block 427" in it.

Take the intended recipient to several shows and ask what they like and why. Ask over a period of time. Then build once.

thnx, jv.

PackardV8

PackardV8
07-18-2007, 01:18 PM
Post Script - File under lessons learned: Can't count the number of project cars built for wives, girlfriends, sons, daughters, grandchildren, which were not appreciated as much as was hoped. We tend to build what we like, not what they want to drive. One friend couldn't understand why his son wouldn't drive a restored 1931 Model A Ford sedan to high school. Another body shop friend can't understand why his wife is afraid to drive a show-quality Chevy pickup with a very hot big block 427" in it.

Take the intended recipient to several shows and ask what they like and why. Ask over a period of time. Then build once.

thnx, jv.

PackardV8

Allan Songer
07-18-2007, 01:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by PackardV8

Post Script - File under lessons learned: Can't count the number of project cars built for wives, girlfriends, sons, daughters, grandchildren, which were not appreciated as much as was hoped. We tend to build what we like, not what they want to drive. One friend couldn't understand why his son wouldn't drive a restored 1931 Model A Ford sedan to high school. Another body shop friend can't understand why his wife is afraid to drive a show-quality Chevy pickup with a very hot big block 427" in it.

Take the intended recipient to several shows and ask what they like and why. Ask over a period of time. Then build once.

thnx, jv.

PackardV8


Yeah, but since my wife was the one who got ME into Studebakers and because she had been driving them as DAILY transport for ten years when I presented the Lark to her, I thought I was on safe ground--her Hawk was a 289 4bbl 4-speed, so the Lark was pretty similar! It's just that she had her eyes on a C-Cab for some time and I didn't think she was really SERIOUS about driving a pickup as her daily transport--but she WAS! Which is cool, as the E7 has been THE most reliable vintage vehicle we have ever owned--ten years and over 75,000 miles without a hiccup--no kidding--not ONE breakdown other than a couple of dead batteries!

Allan Songer
07-18-2007, 01:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by PackardV8

Post Script - File under lessons learned: Can't count the number of project cars built for wives, girlfriends, sons, daughters, grandchildren, which were not appreciated as much as was hoped. We tend to build what we like, not what they want to drive. One friend couldn't understand why his son wouldn't drive a restored 1931 Model A Ford sedan to high school. Another body shop friend can't understand why his wife is afraid to drive a show-quality Chevy pickup with a very hot big block 427" in it.

Take the intended recipient to several shows and ask what they like and why. Ask over a period of time. Then build once.

thnx, jv.

PackardV8


Yeah, but since my wife was the one who got ME into Studebakers and because she had been driving them as DAILY transport for ten years when I presented the Lark to her, I thought I was on safe ground--her Hawk was a 289 4bbl 4-speed, so the Lark was pretty similar! It's just that she had her eyes on a C-Cab for some time and I didn't think she was really SERIOUS about driving a pickup as her daily transport--but she WAS! Which is cool, as the E7 has been THE most reliable vintage vehicle we have ever owned--ten years and over 75,000 miles without a hiccup--no kidding--not ONE breakdown other than a couple of dead batteries!

DilloCrafter
07-18-2007, 03:45 PM
quote:...my wife was the one who got ME into Studebakers and ... she had been driving them as DAILY transport for ten years ....she had her eyes on a C-Cab for some time and I didn't think she was really SERIOUS about driving a pickup as her daily transport--but she WAS!
Where can I find a woman like that? Really, I'm single and searching.

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

DilloCrafter
07-18-2007, 03:45 PM
quote:...my wife was the one who got ME into Studebakers and ... she had been driving them as DAILY transport for ten years ....she had her eyes on a C-Cab for some time and I didn't think she was really SERIOUS about driving a pickup as her daily transport--but she WAS!
Where can I find a woman like that? Really, I'm single and searching.

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

StudeRich
07-18-2007, 04:15 PM
That is such a sweet looking little Lark! The "Custom" trim level was never pushed enough by Dealers, or the factory. It really did not sell well or ever catch-on at all. Most people did not seem to know it existed. They sold way more Regal models. [^]

Some people say it's the name thing, since Custom (on a Studebaker) always used to mean (before '63)a stripped down cheapie! Maybe that is one reason it did not survive after '63!

I always liked those so much better than the Regal or Standard, because I like the up grades like that way COOL '62 Daytona like brushed aluminum "tang" hanging down on the quarter panel, stainless steel framed side windows, carpeting, and really neat door panel and seat design. :)

In fact in 1963 I had one all "spec-ed out": Custom 2dr., accessories, R1 engine, 4 speed, Blue (WOW, it was the same! imagine that!) had all the dealer prices all ready to go, only one problem...the money! [xx(]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
07-18-2007, 04:15 PM
That is such a sweet looking little Lark! The "Custom" trim level was never pushed enough by Dealers, or the factory. It really did not sell well or ever catch-on at all. Most people did not seem to know it existed. They sold way more Regal models. [^]

Some people say it's the name thing, since Custom (on a Studebaker) always used to mean (before '63)a stripped down cheapie! Maybe that is one reason it did not survive after '63!

I always liked those so much better than the Regal or Standard, because I like the up grades like that way COOL '62 Daytona like brushed aluminum "tang" hanging down on the quarter panel, stainless steel framed side windows, carpeting, and really neat door panel and seat design. :)

In fact in 1963 I had one all "spec-ed out": Custom 2dr., accessories, R1 engine, 4 speed, Blue (WOW, it was the same! imagine that!) had all the dealer prices all ready to go, only one problem...the money! [xx(]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA