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8E45E
07-16-2007, 10:34 PM
I only wish I took a closer look at these Google Earth images BEFORE I went there.:( I didn't realize these were probably taken mid-spring before they were in 'full-foliage' stage. I know where to look now the next time I get there....

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1152/833356326_94d50c886b.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1364/833356316_0abff4c646.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1086/833356310_6798b27b6c.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1351/833356296_0d1324e5f1.jpg?v=0

Craig

A1956GoldenHawk
07-16-2007, 11:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E

I only wish I took a closer look at these Google Earth images BEFORE I went there.:( I didn't realize these were probably taken mid-spring before they were in 'full-foliage' stage. I know where to look now the next time I get there....Craig


Darn it!!! Wish I still had a good point-of-contact there, I'd run over and take some close-up pics. tomorrow!;)



<h4>Last Man Standing in Studebaker Indiana</h4>

A1956GoldenHawk
07-16-2007, 11:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E

I only wish I took a closer look at these Google Earth images BEFORE I went there.:( I didn't realize these were probably taken mid-spring before they were in 'full-foliage' stage. I know where to look now the next time I get there....Craig


Darn it!!! Wish I still had a good point-of-contact there, I'd run over and take some close-up pics. tomorrow!;)



<h4>Last Man Standing in Studebaker Indiana</h4>

raprice
07-17-2007, 01:54 PM
Looking at the last photo, which shows the trees that spell out
"Studebaker", did anyone notice that the shrubs outside the Studebaker National Museum also spell out "Studebaker". Just wondering.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

raprice
07-17-2007, 01:54 PM
Looking at the last photo, which shows the trees that spell out
"Studebaker", did anyone notice that the shrubs outside the Studebaker National Museum also spell out "Studebaker". Just wondering.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

2R5
07-17-2007, 04:20 PM
If you look close those 2 vehicles that look almost white are probably newer cars ....maybe???
They sure aren't rusty brown like the other ones.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l300/2R5/smallchamp.jpg HOME of THE FRIED GREEN TOMATO

1950 2R5
1960 Lark 2dr
1960 Champ
1964 Daytona HT

2R5
07-17-2007, 04:20 PM
If you look close those 2 vehicles that look almost white are probably newer cars ....maybe???
They sure aren't rusty brown like the other ones.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l300/2R5/smallchamp.jpg HOME of THE FRIED GREEN TOMATO

1950 2R5
1960 Lark 2dr
1960 Champ
1964 Daytona HT

Guido
07-17-2007, 05:16 PM
Bob,

Could it be that they are the only two that are upright and the others are "upside over"?

Gary (AKA Decimal Dude)

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
07-17-2007, 05:16 PM
Bob,

Could it be that they are the only two that are upright and the others are "upside over"?

Gary (AKA Decimal Dude)

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

2R5
07-17-2007, 05:18 PM
Well you may be onto something there

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l300/2R5/smallchamp.jpg HOME of THE FRIED GREEN TOMATO

1950 2R5
1960 Lark 2dr
1960 Champ
1964 Daytona HT

2R5
07-17-2007, 05:18 PM
Well you may be onto something there

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l300/2R5/smallchamp.jpg HOME of THE FRIED GREEN TOMATO

1950 2R5
1960 Lark 2dr
1960 Champ
1964 Daytona HT

mbstude
07-17-2007, 05:26 PM
I had a feeling you would post these Craig. ;)

I wish I had seen this before South Bend, I would have thrown a tow-rope in the back of my Orange truck! :D

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

mbstude
07-17-2007, 05:26 PM
I had a feeling you would post these Craig. ;)

I wish I had seen this before South Bend, I would have thrown a tow-rope in the back of my Orange truck! :D

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

8E45E
07-17-2007, 06:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

I had a feeling you would post these Craig. ;)

I wish I had seen this before South Bend, I would have thrown a tow-rope in the back of my Orange truck! :D



And maybe a chainsaw, shovels, cherry picker, some skids, and few other tools!
They've been there for years and years, less their chassis. They would tear to pieces if you tried to pull them out with a rope![:0]
But the biggest challenge is getting in there to retrieve them. You'd have to pull a Bob Palma, and sneak in there!! I wonder it that "Model 'N'" prototype is still there. That one should be retrieved for sure!!:)

Craig

8E45E
07-17-2007, 06:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

I had a feeling you would post these Craig. ;)

I wish I had seen this before South Bend, I would have thrown a tow-rope in the back of my Orange truck! :D



And maybe a chainsaw, shovels, cherry picker, some skids, and few other tools!
They've been there for years and years, less their chassis. They would tear to pieces if you tried to pull them out with a rope![:0]
But the biggest challenge is getting in there to retrieve them. You'd have to pull a Bob Palma, and sneak in there!! I wonder it that "Model 'N'" prototype is still there. That one should be retrieved for sure!!:)

Craig

mbstude
07-17-2007, 06:25 PM
I know Craig, but it sure would be fun getting to them!

Here's a nice article from 1971 about the Prototypes and the graveyard. The cars were 'rough' back then. [xx(] It states that there were 45 hulks found that day! [:0]

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/05/06/sia-flashback-stude-graveyard-and-before-the-new-wore-off/

And yes Craig, there's pics of the Model N's ;), as well as trucks, a woody wagon, and some cool '53-style cars.

It's really a shame that Studebaker just threw these things out in the woods... [V]

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

mbstude
07-17-2007, 06:25 PM
I know Craig, but it sure would be fun getting to them!

Here's a nice article from 1971 about the Prototypes and the graveyard. The cars were 'rough' back then. [xx(] It states that there were 45 hulks found that day! [:0]

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/05/06/sia-flashback-stude-graveyard-and-before-the-new-wore-off/

And yes Craig, there's pics of the Model N's ;), as well as trucks, a woody wagon, and some cool '53-style cars.

It's really a shame that Studebaker just threw these things out in the woods... [V]

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

showbizkid
07-17-2007, 06:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

It's really a shame that Studebaker just threw these things out in the woods...


At least they didn't do what GM did, and have 'em cut up for scrap.


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

showbizkid
07-17-2007, 06:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

It's really a shame that Studebaker just threw these things out in the woods...


At least they didn't do what GM did, and have 'em cut up for scrap.


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

8E45E
07-17-2007, 06:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

I know Craig, but it sure would be fun getting to them!

Here's a nice article from 1971 about the Prototypes and the graveyard. The cars were 'rough' back then. [xx(] It states that there were 45 hulks found that day! [:0]

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/05/06/sia-flashback-stude-graveyard-and-before-the-new-wore-off/

And yes Craig, there's pics of the Model N's. ;)

It's really a shame that Studebaker just threw these things out in the woods... [V]




Yep, I have those SIA articles.:) And of course the two '47 wagons have been retrieved. But it would sure would have been nice to have gone in for a look-see while we were there, especially that we now know exactly where they are!![}:)]

Craig

8E45E
07-17-2007, 06:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

I know Craig, but it sure would be fun getting to them!

Here's a nice article from 1971 about the Prototypes and the graveyard. The cars were 'rough' back then. [xx(] It states that there were 45 hulks found that day! [:0]

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/05/06/sia-flashback-stude-graveyard-and-before-the-new-wore-off/

And yes Craig, there's pics of the Model N's. ;)

It's really a shame that Studebaker just threw these things out in the woods... [V]




Yep, I have those SIA articles.:) And of course the two '47 wagons have been retrieved. But it would sure would have been nice to have gone in for a look-see while we were there, especially that we now know exactly where they are!![}:)]

Craig

mbstude
07-17-2007, 06:47 PM
quote:But it would sure would have been nice to have gone in for a look-see while we were there, especially that we now know exactly where they are!! [}:)]


Looking at the Google Earth pics, when the Hawk broke down on the track and all the cars were stopped, my truck was maybe 300-400 yards from the cars. If I'da only known! ;)

[b]Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

mbstude
07-17-2007, 06:47 PM
quote:But it would sure would have been nice to have gone in for a look-see while we were there, especially that we now know exactly where they are!! [}:)]


Looking at the Google Earth pics, when the Hawk broke down on the track and all the cars were stopped, my truck was maybe 300-400 yards from the cars. If I'da only known! ;)

[b]Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

2R5
07-17-2007, 07:05 PM
Well next time the International is in SB and we hopefully get to the track again ....I'll be stopping on turn 3 for a pee in the bushes ;)

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l300/2R5/smallchamp.jpg HOME of THE FRIED GREEN TOMATO

1950 2R5
1960 Lark 2dr
1960 Champ
1964 Daytona HT

2R5
07-17-2007, 07:05 PM
Well next time the International is in SB and we hopefully get to the track again ....I'll be stopping on turn 3 for a pee in the bushes ;)

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l300/2R5/smallchamp.jpg HOME of THE FRIED GREEN TOMATO

1950 2R5
1960 Lark 2dr
1960 Champ
1964 Daytona HT

BobPalma
07-17-2007, 08:50 PM
:) Well, guys, having twice been in and among the graveyard cars (both times with permission, believe it or not[:0]), I can honestly tell you the graveyard isn't as easily accessed as you might think. ;)

The growth between the cars and the outside world is heavy during the summer months. When you are standing in the graveyard, you absolutely cannot see anything other than trees and overgrowth around you. It is easy to become disoriented, taking off in the wrong direction to "get out," so to speak. A compass really is a good idea. :D

I was allowed back in a second time to reshoot some pictures that didn't come out from a month earlier, for the articles that appeared in the July 1991 and August 1991 editions of Turning Wheels. On that second trip, I was alone and knew to be very careful to mark my way in, lest I would get lost trying to get back out. Seriously.

It is an eerie feeling, to say the least...not at all as easy as it appears, here, from Google Earth....or, as they say on TV, "Don't try this at home, kids!" :D[:0];)

BTW: Lest anyone entertain romantic notions about what is in there, keep in mind that there are few chassis or frames under the hulks. At least 90% of them are just bodies, not mounted on frames or chassis, that were simply dropped on the bare ground, or drug to their final resting place, at least 45 years ago. You can let your imagination take it from there. [xx(][:0][}:)] BP

BobPalma
07-17-2007, 08:50 PM
:) Well, guys, having twice been in and among the graveyard cars (both times with permission, believe it or not[:0]), I can honestly tell you the graveyard isn't as easily accessed as you might think. ;)

The growth between the cars and the outside world is heavy during the summer months. When you are standing in the graveyard, you absolutely cannot see anything other than trees and overgrowth around you. It is easy to become disoriented, taking off in the wrong direction to "get out," so to speak. A compass really is a good idea. :D

I was allowed back in a second time to reshoot some pictures that didn't come out from a month earlier, for the articles that appeared in the July 1991 and August 1991 editions of Turning Wheels. On that second trip, I was alone and knew to be very careful to mark my way in, lest I would get lost trying to get back out. Seriously.

It is an eerie feeling, to say the least...not at all as easy as it appears, here, from Google Earth....or, as they say on TV, "Don't try this at home, kids!" :D[:0];)

BTW: Lest anyone entertain romantic notions about what is in there, keep in mind that there are few chassis or frames under the hulks. At least 90% of them are just bodies, not mounted on frames or chassis, that were simply dropped on the bare ground, or drug to their final resting place, at least 45 years ago. You can let your imagination take it from there. [xx(][:0][}:)] BP

DEEPNHOCK
07-17-2007, 09:13 PM
Jimmy Hoffa?[:0]



quote:Originally posted by 8E45E

I only wish I took a closer look at these Google Earth images BEFORE I went there.:( I didn't realize these were probably taken mid-spring before they were in 'full-foliage' stage. I know where to look now the next time I get there....
=

DEEPNHOCK
07-17-2007, 09:13 PM
Jimmy Hoffa?[:0]



quote:Originally posted by 8E45E

I only wish I took a closer look at these Google Earth images BEFORE I went there.:( I didn't realize these were probably taken mid-spring before they were in 'full-foliage' stage. I know where to look now the next time I get there....
=

mbstude
07-17-2007, 09:17 PM
quote:Jimmy Hoffa?[:0]


He's in the trunk of the Model N. ;) -Sshhhh



Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

mbstude
07-17-2007, 09:17 PM
quote:Jimmy Hoffa?[:0]


He's in the trunk of the Model N. ;) -Sshhhh



Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

A1956GoldenHawk
07-17-2007, 09:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by raprice

Looking at the last photo, which shows the trees that spell out
"Studebaker", did anyone notice that the shrubs outside the Studebaker National Museum also spell out "Studebaker". Just wondering.
Rog


No, I didn't notice the shrubs at the SNM. It wasn't that long ago the letters at the old Proving Grounds were almost indistinguishable from the air. Appears from the Google Earth photos the St. Joseph County Parks got busy and cleared out all around the letters.

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A1956GoldenHawk
07-17-2007, 09:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by raprice

Looking at the last photo, which shows the trees that spell out
"Studebaker", did anyone notice that the shrubs outside the Studebaker National Museum also spell out "Studebaker". Just wondering.
Rog


No, I didn't notice the shrubs at the SNM. It wasn't that long ago the letters at the old Proving Grounds were almost indistinguishable from the air. Appears from the Google Earth photos the St. Joseph County Parks got busy and cleared out all around the letters.

<h4>Last Man Standing in Studebaker Indiana</h4>

StudeMichael
07-17-2007, 11:30 PM
I had always imagined the secret location as being in the back 40 deep in the woods, not inside the oval test track!! Who would have guessed that?

1954 Commander
1958 Golden Hawk
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser

StudeMichael
07-17-2007, 11:30 PM
I had always imagined the secret location as being in the back 40 deep in the woods, not inside the oval test track!! Who would have guessed that?

1954 Commander
1958 Golden Hawk
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser

8E45E
07-17-2007, 11:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

:) Well, guys, having twice been in and among the graveyard cars (both times with permission, believe it or not[:0]), I can honestly tell you the graveyard isn't as easily accessed as you might think. ;)



Yes, Bob, that's why I would count on you to lead the 'tour'!:D Indeed, 'Boy Scout' rules apply, a compass, (or a GPS indicator if you're really up to date[:p]) But I think the most difficult part not counting trying to get one of those hulks out of there in one piece is trying to get permission in the first place to go in!![B)] Is that correct? I know one was not permitted to pull over and stop on the track at all on the Saturday.


Craig

8E45E
07-17-2007, 11:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

:) Well, guys, having twice been in and among the graveyard cars (both times with permission, believe it or not[:0]), I can honestly tell you the graveyard isn't as easily accessed as you might think. ;)



Yes, Bob, that's why I would count on you to lead the 'tour'!:D Indeed, 'Boy Scout' rules apply, a compass, (or a GPS indicator if you're really up to date[:p]) But I think the most difficult part not counting trying to get one of those hulks out of there in one piece is trying to get permission in the first place to go in!![B)] Is that correct? I know one was not permitted to pull over and stop on the track at all on the Saturday.


Craig

37CoupeE
07-18-2007, 12:32 AM
I will just add my 2 cents worth here.
I took one trip around the test track and then got off to visit the little blue hut.
I then took pictures of the rest driving around the track.
While standing there, I got talking to one of the Bosch employees on hand.
He told me about the remains of the cars back in the woods and pointed out the area.
When I asked if these were the proto-type remains he just gave me a wink.
He stated that there really is not much left back there, he had seen them.
I remember reading and seeing a video of these cars in the past.
There was not much left then and I can sadly think of what is left now.

37CoupeE
07-18-2007, 12:32 AM
I will just add my 2 cents worth here.
I took one trip around the test track and then got off to visit the little blue hut.
I then took pictures of the rest driving around the track.
While standing there, I got talking to one of the Bosch employees on hand.
He told me about the remains of the cars back in the woods and pointed out the area.
When I asked if these were the proto-type remains he just gave me a wink.
He stated that there really is not much left back there, he had seen them.
I remember reading and seeing a video of these cars in the past.
There was not much left then and I can sadly think of what is left now.

A1956GoldenHawk
07-18-2007, 01:13 AM
quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

I had always imagined the secret location as being in the back 40 deep in the woods, not inside the oval test track!! Who would have guessed that?


StudeMichael, it's just one of those "Indiana Vehicle Manufacturer's" things![8D] About 25 miles due east of Studebaker's test track sits AM General's test track. Can you guess what "things" have been drug out to the woods in the middle as far back as the early 80’s[?] Old habits are hard to break especially since some former Studebaker employees had some thing to do with that too!!![:0][:0][:0]

<h4>Last Man Standing in Studebaker Indiana</h4>

A1956GoldenHawk
07-18-2007, 01:13 AM
quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

I had always imagined the secret location as being in the back 40 deep in the woods, not inside the oval test track!! Who would have guessed that?


StudeMichael, it's just one of those "Indiana Vehicle Manufacturer's" things![8D] About 25 miles due east of Studebaker's test track sits AM General's test track. Can you guess what "things" have been drug out to the woods in the middle as far back as the early 80’s[?] Old habits are hard to break especially since some former Studebaker employees had some thing to do with that too!!![:0][:0][:0]

<h4>Last Man Standing in Studebaker Indiana</h4>

A1956GoldenHawk
07-18-2007, 01:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude


quote:[i]It's really a shame that Studebaker just threw these things out in the woods... [V]Yeah, in, "North Bend, Indiana," no less. The fellow certainly did his research!


Boy, that fellow was [B)]doubly[B)] wrong! The old Studebaker Proving Grounds is not in North Bend or even South Bend, but it's in NEW CARLISLE, INDIANA!

http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/5963/United_States/Indiana/New_Carlisle/Bosch_Automotive_Proving_Grounds

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A1956GoldenHawk
07-18-2007, 01:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude


quote:[i]It's really a shame that Studebaker just threw these things out in the woods... [V]Yeah, in, "North Bend, Indiana," no less. The fellow certainly did his research!


Boy, that fellow was [B)]doubly[B)] wrong! The old Studebaker Proving Grounds is not in North Bend or even South Bend, but it's in NEW CARLISLE, INDIANA!

http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/5963/United_States/Indiana/New_Carlisle/Bosch_Automotive_Proving_Grounds

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clonelark
02-01-2011, 08:07 AM
That would be a great place to fly an ultra-lite.

StudHawk60
02-01-2011, 11:02 AM
Is anybody else seeing each reply to this thread 2 times?

raoul5788
02-01-2011, 11:16 AM
Just the old ones.

raoul5788
02-01-2011, 11:16 AM
Just the old ones. ;)

Corvanti
02-01-2011, 11:17 AM
Is anybody else seeing each reply to this thread 2 times?

yeah. not sure but i think it has something to do with the "new" forum from last may (?)... :confused:

StudHawk60
02-01-2011, 03:23 PM
OK, I didn't notice that this thread is so old.

Welcome
02-01-2011, 05:13 PM
That would be a great place to fly an ultra-lite.

OR ...to learn to fly a single engine plane!

There is (or least was) 6 nautical mile by 6 nautical mile air space above and around the former Studebaker Proving Grounds restricted for flight training.

rjohnston79
02-01-2011, 05:48 PM
Maybe the "white" bodies are fiberglass, and the "rust" bodies are steel?