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wagonairedriver
07-16-2007, 11:39 AM
I have a '63 Wagonaire I bought for parts. Now I keep looking at it and thinking "boy, that would be cool with a 3 or 4 inch top chop". Does anybody of a good book which covers this in depth?

52-fan
07-16-2007, 12:16 PM
There are a lot of books covering this topic. A Goggle search should turn up more than you need. It would be a ton of work and if you chop it 4" it might look"cool" to some people, but actually driving it would not be so fun.

1952 Champion Starlight since October,1971. 1962 Daytona
since May, 2007.Searcy,Arkansas

Roscomacaw
07-16-2007, 01:43 PM
I have a gutted '63 here you can have to make a "practice" cut on![:p] Free for the taking![:0]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Swifster
07-16-2007, 02:45 PM
The big expense in this would be the glass. You'd need to check with your local DMV to see if plexy would be allowed or if you'd need custom tempered glass. The other issue is that while the top slider wouldn't really be effected, the vents assemblies on both sides would be a pain in the wallet. And remember, the tailgate only opens with the glass down, so the angle of the rear glass needs to remain similar.

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

StudeRich
07-16-2007, 03:22 PM
Is there something WRONG with the way it looks now? [:0]

Wagonaires look perfectly proportioned to me! [^]

At least they do not have doors that are too tall like an M Series Truck, or windows that are too low like a new Chrysler 300, roof too tall like a Model "T" Ford or something gross like that![xx(]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

Mike Van Veghten
07-16-2007, 03:54 PM
wagonairedriver...don't let the "why" guys talk you out of it.

I've helped chop a top many years ago. On one hand, it is a lot of work...on the other...you'd have a custom that [u]you</u> built! And that has a fair amount of cool factor...no matter what anyone says.

As one of the others sorta said...don't go too far or looking up may be a problem.

As for the glass. FIRST...find a glass shop that can cut your glass. It's a dieing art to be able to cut windshield glass and even more so on the tempered side glass...it has to be ground.

ON THE OTHER HAND...I heard tell where (on a 60 Thunderbird) rather than have any glass actually cut...the glass was "channeled" down into the body so the owner didn't have to mess with trying to cut it. A bit more metal work but MUCH less worry about breaking glass.

Go for it...go slow and have fun.

Mike

kurtruk
07-22-2007, 12:34 AM
The glass is not a big issue. Except for the windshield it is all flat glass. Grinding down tempered is a ridiculous notion. Most likely it will overheat and explode. Flat LAMINATED glass is what to use. Yes, you will need to find an older established glass shop to do it. The windshield is a little more of an issue. But there are plenty of people out there doing custom work. Ask around.

KURTRUK
(read it backwards;))

PlainBrownR2
07-22-2007, 03:21 AM
Posting myself as a "why" guy......
Hey if a guy can chop a school bus top on Monster Nation, that spinoff of Monster Garage, and thrill the kids as they got off the full size school bus.....
Why not?? :)


1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
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mbstude
07-22-2007, 12:13 PM
I think a chopped-top Wagonaire would be pretty cool! [:0][8D]

I don't know how many times I've looked at our '64 and thought about how good it would look with the roof a little lower. A R2 with T10 would be pretty nice too, I think. :D

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/pics_wagon.jpg

I say go for it and keep us posted on how it goes. :)

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

Guido
07-22-2007, 12:31 PM
quote: I don't know how many times I've looked at our '64 and thought about how good it would look with the roof a little lower.
I bet that your sister would love that, it would be harder for anyone to see her riding in it. :D

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

ROADRACELARK
07-22-2007, 12:31 PM
Matt,

Can't you "photo-shop" it and get an idea of how it might look?
Just a thought.:) See you in August....so far the turn out looks great. Make sure to bring your truck. I'm gona' try to get the hot rod up there if I can do it without gettin' any tickets. Remember this.... If it ain't leakin', it must be empty.;)

Dan Miller
Atlanta, GA

[img=left]http://static.flickr.com/57/228744729_7aff5f0118_m.jpg[/img=left]
Road Racers turn left AND right.

mbstude
07-22-2007, 01:24 PM
You're right Gary! But I think she'll still hide in the floorboards. :D

Dan, I'm not sure if I'll make it up to the meet or not. School starts that Friday (don't ask me why) and for me to leave after school, that's a long ways to go that late in the day. If I do go, I won't be taking the truck. My grandad said something about trailering the '51 Starlight up there, but that's not set in stone yet. Who knows though... I'd love to see the Challenger though!

Also, funny you should mention that! Right after my last post, I got busy on photoshop! [8D]

Stock Wagonaire; just an old station wagon. [:o)]
http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/studebaker/63wagonaire2.jpg

Slightly altered Wagonaire; one cool grocery-getter! (I couldn't help but lower it a bit too. :))
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/chop_top_wagonaire.jpg

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

ROADRACELARK
07-22-2007, 03:41 PM
Matt,
That actually looks kinda' cool. I hate to hear that:(, but I know the feelin', I start back the Monday after the meet,:( drivin' the "looser-cruiser".:( Gota' have insurance some how, but the pay sure don't cut it, especially considering what you're responsible for.[:0] Oh well, it's my choice ain't it.;) Later.

Dan (cheese-box) Miller
Atlanta, GA

[img=left]http://static.flickr.com/57/228744729_7aff5f0118_m.jpg[/img=left]
Road Racers turn left AND right.

sbca96
07-23-2007, 02:04 AM
Matt .. it needs Dubs!!!:D;)

http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/avarus/swap/avarus_av1_c_ci3_l.jpg

Tom


quote:Originally posted by mbstude
Slightly altered Wagonaire; one cool grocery-getter! (I couldn't help but lower it a bit too. :))
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/chop_top_wagonaire.jpg


'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

stan zoerner
07-23-2007, 04:13 PM
Looks like a cool idea! I suppose that a small rake{ala dodge wagon} would be way to much work unless you could make it a two dr.sedan delivery. And then you wouldn't be able to see all the SMILES of people checkin'out your ride.LOL

mausersmth
07-26-2007, 08:39 PM
I like the project! Just go slow, measure, mark, re-measure and have someone else check the measurements before you cut. Hey, it would be a LOT easier then the classic '50 Merc chops we have all seen!
Be sure of how far you want to go BEFORE you cut! Kinda hard to undo!

Charles Eck
Essex, MD

'57 Commander 4 door sedan, 'Bluebird'

Studebakers were made to drive! (Besides, they don't get lost as easy in the Wal-Mart parking lot!)