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Guido
07-14-2007, 09:07 PM
Bondo Billy has the HFH ("Hawk From Hell"), but I am now the proud owner of the LLHH ("Looks Like Hell Hawk"). It has been covered in POR 15 that is now starting to peel (but no rust peeking through :D) But JP was right, it does run well and starts with the first bump of the key.
http://www.stude.com/1500/009.JPG

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

mbstude
07-14-2007, 09:11 PM
Why would anyone put POR15 over an entire car? [8]

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

mbstude
07-14-2007, 09:11 PM
Why would anyone put POR15 over an entire car? [8]

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

JDP
07-14-2007, 09:15 PM
The body did not look that bad for the money, but I figured it was worth it for the interior and drive line. You may find a lot of stuff peeking once you scrape the paint off.:) I'm not over the moon about the frame either, but I think it may have a stainless exhaust system. (Or was that another Hawk):)

JDP/Maryland
64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
64 GT R2
63 GT R2
63 Lark 2 door
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
07-14-2007, 09:15 PM
The body did not look that bad for the money, but I figured it was worth it for the interior and drive line. You may find a lot of stuff peeking once you scrape the paint off.:) I'm not over the moon about the frame either, but I think it may have a stainless exhaust system. (Or was that another Hawk):)

JDP/Maryland
64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
64 GT R2
63 GT R2
63 Lark 2 door
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

A1956GoldenHawk
07-14-2007, 09:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

Bondo Billy has the HFH ("Hawk From Hell"), but I am now the proud owner of the LLHH ("Looks Like Hell Hawk"). It has been covered in POR 15 that is now starting to peel (but no rust peeking through :D)

Don't know about a "LLHH," but that's a POR looking Hawk you've got!:D:D:D

<h3>The Last Man Standing in Studebaker Indiana</h3>

A1956GoldenHawk
07-14-2007, 09:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

Bondo Billy has the HFH ("Hawk From Hell"), but I am now the proud owner of the LLHH ("Looks Like Hell Hawk"). It has been covered in POR 15 that is now starting to peel (but no rust peeking through :D)

Don't know about a "LLHH," but that's a POR looking Hawk you've got!:D:D:D

<h3>The Last Man Standing in Studebaker Indiana</h3>

Guido
07-14-2007, 09:22 PM
I think that Tom mentioned that it may be a SS exhaust, but I took care to make sure the pipes did not drag when I loaded it on the rollback. I think it has some rot in the body mounts, but I have not had time to look at it as I took out several trees in my back yard and have been loading up the laps.

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
07-14-2007, 09:22 PM
I think that Tom mentioned that it may be a SS exhaust, but I took care to make sure the pipes did not drag when I loaded it on the rollback. I think it has some rot in the body mounts, but I have not had time to look at it as I took out several trees in my back yard and have been loading up the laps.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

bams50
07-14-2007, 10:23 PM
Good for you, Gary...

Funny how things work out; you got that one, and I got one with a 289( has JT or something like that in the engine #), which I prefer over the 259 in yours; you got your interior, Leonard got out from under his, etc. etc...

Keep me in mind on those WWWs[:p] And- look over those body mounts; if they're decent, and I'm here with good tin and floors............maybe a trip to VA for another corpse;)

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
07-14-2007, 10:23 PM
Good for you, Gary...

Funny how things work out; you got that one, and I got one with a 289( has JT or something like that in the engine #), which I prefer over the 259 in yours; you got your interior, Leonard got out from under his, etc. etc...

Keep me in mind on those WWWs[:p] And- look over those body mounts; if they're decent, and I'm here with good tin and floors............maybe a trip to VA for another corpse;)

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

mbstude
07-14-2007, 10:27 PM
Hey Robert, sounds like you have an R1 on your hands!

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

mbstude
07-14-2007, 10:27 PM
Hey Robert, sounds like you have an R1 on your hands!

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

lstude
07-14-2007, 10:32 PM
Bob, if it is a JT (Jet Thrust) hold on to it, you lucky dog! :D

If it runs, I might buy it from you. I am going to pull mine down tomorrow and see what it looks like inside.

Gary, are you going to bring that to our next meet?

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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lstude
07-14-2007, 10:32 PM
Bob, if it is a JT (Jet Thrust) hold on to it, you lucky dog! :D

If it runs, I might buy it from you. I am going to pull mine down tomorrow and see what it looks like inside.

Gary, are you going to bring that to our next meet?

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg

Guido
07-14-2007, 10:41 PM
quote: Gary, are you going to bring that to our next meet?
If that is Field Day of the Past, it just might be there.

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
07-14-2007, 10:41 PM
quote: Gary, are you going to bring that to our next meet?
If that is Field Day of the Past, it just might be there.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

54-61-62
07-14-2007, 10:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

I got one with a 289( has JT or something like that in the engine #)



Bob,

JT prefix means R1 engine, JTS means R2..... A regular 289 would have a "P" prefix. You really lucked out getting an R powered 4speed car for that money!

Wish I were that lucky! Every R powered car I ever got I paid through the nose for!

Kent

54-61-62
07-14-2007, 10:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

I got one with a 289( has JT or something like that in the engine #)



Bob,

JT prefix means R1 engine, JTS means R2..... A regular 289 would have a "P" prefix. You really lucked out getting an R powered 4speed car for that money!

Wish I were that lucky! Every R powered car I ever got I paid through the nose for!

Kent

bams50
07-14-2007, 10:56 PM
I'M SORRY ALL, I was being a smart-aleck when I wrote that, to see if you were paying attention... I actually haven't looked at the number yet...[:I]

Sorry- probably was a bad prank...[B)][:o)]

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
07-14-2007, 10:56 PM
I'M SORRY ALL, I was being a smart-aleck when I wrote that, to see if you were paying attention... I actually haven't looked at the number yet...[:I]

Sorry- probably was a bad prank...[B)][:o)]

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
07-14-2007, 10:59 PM
BTW- Exactly where IS the engine #?

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
07-14-2007, 10:59 PM
BTW- Exactly where IS the engine #?

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

mbstude
07-14-2007, 11:07 PM
Good one, Bob. :D

Here ya go.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/engine.jpg

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

mbstude
07-14-2007, 11:07 PM
Good one, Bob. :D

Here ya go.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/engine.jpg

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

avantilover
07-14-2007, 11:08 PM
If it's in the usual place there is a machined flat plate on the drivers side of the engine block (top front)onto which Studebaker stamped the engine number.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

avantilover
07-14-2007, 11:08 PM
If it's in the usual place there is a machined flat plate on the drivers side of the engine block (top front)onto which Studebaker stamped the engine number.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

bams50
07-14-2007, 11:29 PM
I felt bad, so I just went out, in the dark, in the rain, and looked; it is in fact a "P" code... so 289, like we thought.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
07-14-2007, 11:29 PM
I felt bad, so I just went out, in the dark, in the rain, and looked; it is in fact a "P" code... so 289, like we thought.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

JDP
07-14-2007, 11:39 PM
I have a new set of GT body mounts if anyone needs them. :)

JDP/Maryland
64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
64 GT R2
63 GT R2
63 Lark 2 door
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
07-14-2007, 11:39 PM
I have a new set of GT body mounts if anyone needs them. :)

JDP/Maryland
64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
64 GT R2
63 GT R2
63 Lark 2 door
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

bondobilly
07-16-2007, 09:31 AM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

Why would anyone put POR15 over an entire car? [8]


Using POR15 on almost anything other than the exterior is an excellent idea.

Can't wait to see the HFH, but we are still in London. BTW .. there is a lot of non SDC member Studes here.

BG

bondobilly
07-16-2007, 09:31 AM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

Why would anyone put POR15 over an entire car? [8]


Using POR15 on almost anything other than the exterior is an excellent idea.

Can't wait to see the HFH, but we are still in London. BTW .. there is a lot of non SDC member Studes here.

BG