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Studedude1961
07-06-2007, 03:50 PM
Though the name "STUDEBAKER" was pretty staid for the go-go 1960s, a news article on AOL today got me to thinking about car model names and how well Studebaker did with most of their offerings. Champion, Commander, Cruiser, Golden and Gran Turismo Hawk, the Avanti...all great model names.

The AOL article said today automakers will pay individuals up to $50,000 for a snazzy new model name, up considerably from the $95 suit given to the man who thought up the name Thunderbird for Ford.

Some cars are harder than others to name. Ford, once again in the mid 1950s was casting about for a proper name for a whole new car it planned to introduce to bridge the gap between Ford and Mercury. The company thought it might be a wise move to go to a poet for inspiration. That poet, Marianne Moore, thought it would be nice if the new car could be called the UTOPIAN TURTLETOP. Naming car is hard. Ford settled for EDSEL to honor the founder's son and the rest is history.

What was the BEST NAMED Studebaker model in your opinion? And the worst? My vote would be LAND CRUISER for best, STANDARD for worse. The Standard was a stripper Lark introduced for the 1963 year. What do you all think?

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

lstude
07-06-2007, 03:55 PM
How about Dictator! [:0]

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lstude
07-06-2007, 03:55 PM
How about Dictator! [:0]

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JBOYLE
07-06-2007, 03:56 PM
For a new "European-style" GT, it's hard to beat Avanti.

Land cruiser and Dictator have a certain presence as well.:D

Daytona is a great name (Just ask Dodge) for a small car that could deliver performance...better than Chevy II /Nova.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

JBOYLE
07-06-2007, 03:56 PM
For a new "European-style" GT, it's hard to beat Avanti.

Land cruiser and Dictator have a certain presence as well.:D

Daytona is a great name (Just ask Dodge) for a small car that could deliver performance...better than Chevy II /Nova.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Guido
07-06-2007, 04:01 PM
Scotsman never did much for me (perhaps because I do not wear a kilt).

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
07-06-2007, 04:01 PM
Scotsman never did much for me (perhaps because I do not wear a kilt).

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Studedude1961
07-06-2007, 04:16 PM
Dictator was a great name that probably lived too long. By 1935-1936 the name probably didn't help marketing any. Today's version might be the Toyota Terrorist.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
07-06-2007, 04:16 PM
Dictator was a great name that probably lived too long. By 1935-1936 the name probably didn't help marketing any. Today's version might be the Toyota Terrorist.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

lstude
07-06-2007, 04:18 PM
I was just kidding about Dictator.

I really think Studebaker's best and most enduring name was Champion. People today who know little about Studebakers connect Studebaker with Champion...even the Keystone club used it on their Lark! [:0]

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/StudesatfairgroundsKeystonecar.jpg

My favorite name was the 32-33 St Regis. Chrysler used it in the mid 50s.

The most confusing name IMO, was Custom. It was the low end model in 50-52, but then they made it the high end sedan model in 63. Most customers and dealers didn't order it. they ordered the Regal, which was a much better name and Buick picked that up.

I have also always liked the Commander State . Don't know what it means but it sounds important.

Leonard Shepherd
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lstude
07-06-2007, 04:18 PM
I was just kidding about Dictator.

I really think Studebaker's best and most enduring name was Champion. People today who know little about Studebakers connect Studebaker with Champion...even the Keystone club used it on their Lark! [:0]

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/StudesatfairgroundsKeystonecar.jpg

My favorite name was the 32-33 St Regis. Chrysler used it in the mid 50s.

The most confusing name IMO, was Custom. It was the low end model in 50-52, but then they made it the high end sedan model in 63. Most customers and dealers didn't order it. they ordered the Regal, which was a much better name and Buick picked that up.

I have also always liked the Commander State . Don't know what it means but it sounds important.

Leonard Shepherd
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bams50
07-06-2007, 04:30 PM
I mentioned this a couple years ago... I wonder if their name choices helped hasten their demise? There worst has to be Dictator; but they had Rockne (noble but not attractive); and names like President, Commander, and Scotsman; not cool when they had to compete with Bel Air, Impala, Bonneville, Catalina, even New Yorker; not to mention Mustang[8D] And how about Corvette? I have no idea what that even is, but I like the sound of it! Perception is key in new autos, and they already had "Studebaker" to contend with[B)] Can't believe they didn't see the need to be a little less stodgy when they came out with Provincial to compete with Country Squire, Fiesta, and Caballero[xx(] Yeah, Parkview's better, and Conestoga is neat, but not exciting to younger buyers... this was bad enough that Avanti or even Daytona were too little too late.

When I was a kid, my Dad refused to have any Studebaker on his car lot; nothing to do with the cars, just that they had a huge rep as old people's cars[|)], plus no one wanted an orphan...

'Course, all the things that were quirky and a turn-off back then are what make them so interesting now![^]

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
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bams50
07-06-2007, 04:30 PM
I mentioned this a couple years ago... I wonder if their name choices helped hasten their demise? There worst has to be Dictator; but they had Rockne (noble but not attractive); and names like President, Commander, and Scotsman; not cool when they had to compete with Bel Air, Impala, Bonneville, Catalina, even New Yorker; not to mention Mustang[8D] And how about Corvette? I have no idea what that even is, but I like the sound of it! Perception is key in new autos, and they already had "Studebaker" to contend with[B)] Can't believe they didn't see the need to be a little less stodgy when they came out with Provincial to compete with Country Squire, Fiesta, and Caballero[xx(] Yeah, Parkview's better, and Conestoga is neat, but not exciting to younger buyers... this was bad enough that Avanti or even Daytona were too little too late.

When I was a kid, my Dad refused to have any Studebaker on his car lot; nothing to do with the cars, just that they had a huge rep as old people's cars[|)], plus no one wanted an orphan...

'Course, all the things that were quirky and a turn-off back then are what make them so interesting now![^]

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

Swifster
07-06-2007, 04:33 PM
I think longevity has a lot to do with it. I think the most recognized name is Commander. I think it says a lot that names that originated with Studebaker was copied by many.

Commander (Jeep)
Daytona (Dodge)
Challenger (Dodge)
St. Regis (Chrysler & Dodge)
Regal (Buick)
Land Cruiser (Toyota)

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

Swifster
07-06-2007, 04:33 PM
I think longevity has a lot to do with it. I think the most recognized name is Commander. I think it says a lot that names that originated with Studebaker was copied by many.

Commander (Jeep)
Daytona (Dodge)
Challenger (Dodge)
St. Regis (Chrysler & Dodge)
Regal (Buick)
Land Cruiser (Toyota)

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

lstude
07-06-2007, 04:39 PM
IMO, the worst name of any car was the

Daihatsu Charade

But maybe that is what Studebaker should have called the 57-58 Packards! :D

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lstude
07-06-2007, 04:39 PM
IMO, the worst name of any car was the

Daihatsu Charade

But maybe that is what Studebaker should have called the 57-58 Packards! :D

Leonard Shepherd
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8E45E
07-06-2007, 04:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Swifster

I think longevity has a lot to do with it. I think the most recognized name is Commander.



I think the Hawk name in general brings more association to Studebaker than Commander. When I tell people I own a Studebaker, they ask if I have a Hawk, or the mention someone that owned one at one time. It is true, the Commander name had a long run, but the Hawks had some real memorable style to them, and got etched on people's memories more than a bread & butter family sedan.

Craig

8E45E
07-06-2007, 04:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Swifster

I think longevity has a lot to do with it. I think the most recognized name is Commander.



I think the Hawk name in general brings more association to Studebaker than Commander. When I tell people I own a Studebaker, they ask if I have a Hawk, or the mention someone that owned one at one time. It is true, the Commander name had a long run, but the Hawks had some real memorable style to them, and got etched on people's memories more than a bread & butter family sedan.

Craig

Swifster
07-06-2007, 04:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

And how about Corvette? I have no idea what that even is, but I like the sound of it!

Definitions of Corvette;

Smallest of all the three-masted square-rigged sailing ships. Used mainly for reconnaissance also called a 'sloop-of-war'. Armed with 8-20 guns on only one deck. A highly maneuverable escort warship; smaller than a destroyer A small, maneuverable, lightly armed warship, smaller than a frigate

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

Swifster
07-06-2007, 04:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

And how about Corvette? I have no idea what that even is, but I like the sound of it!

Definitions of Corvette;

Smallest of all the three-masted square-rigged sailing ships. Used mainly for reconnaissance also called a 'sloop-of-war'. Armed with 8-20 guns on only one deck. A highly maneuverable escort warship; smaller than a destroyer A small, maneuverable, lightly armed warship, smaller than a frigate

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

Studedude1961
07-06-2007, 04:55 PM
Perhaps if Ford Motors had listened a bit more to Marianne Moore, the poet the company hired to think up new names for the all-new car that became the Edsel, that car might have succeeded. Just think: "The 2007 Mongoose Civique. Have You Driven a Ford...Lately?"

Bams50 made a great point. Comparing Studebaker's model names with the sexier names adopted by the competition is interesting. Ramber model names were equally staid...Ambassador...Classic...yawn. They also had the Rebel (better) and the American (good 'ol USA). Brooks Stevens "Sceptre" would have been a wonderful Studebaker name had the company survived. "Studebaker Sceptre" kind of rolls off the tongue. The worst name for an American car currently in production might be Buick Lucerne. Lucerne was a brand of milk marketed by Safeway in the 1970s!

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
07-06-2007, 04:55 PM
Perhaps if Ford Motors had listened a bit more to Marianne Moore, the poet the company hired to think up new names for the all-new car that became the Edsel, that car might have succeeded. Just think: "The 2007 Mongoose Civique. Have You Driven a Ford...Lately?"

Bams50 made a great point. Comparing Studebaker's model names with the sexier names adopted by the competition is interesting. Ramber model names were equally staid...Ambassador...Classic...yawn. They also had the Rebel (better) and the American (good 'ol USA). Brooks Stevens "Sceptre" would have been a wonderful Studebaker name had the company survived. "Studebaker Sceptre" kind of rolls off the tongue. The worst name for an American car currently in production might be Buick Lucerne. Lucerne was a brand of milk marketed by Safeway in the 1970s!

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

8E45E
07-06-2007, 05:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude1961

Perhaps if Ford Motors had listened a bit more to Marianne Moore, the poet the company hired to think up new names for the all-new car that became the Edsel, that car might have succeeded. Just think: "The 2007 Mongoose Civique. Have You Driven a Ford...Lately?"

Bams50 made a great point. Comparing Studebaker's model names with the sexier names adopted by the competition is interesting. Ramber model names were equally staid...Ambassador...Classic...yawn. They also had the Rebel (better) and the American (good 'ol USA). Brooks Stevens "Sceptre" would have been a wonderful Studebaker name had the company survived. "Studebaker Sceptre" kind of rolls off the tongue. The worst name for an American car currently in production might be Buick Lucerne. Lucerne was a brand of milk marketed by Safeway in the 1970s!

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser


Ford has just learned the value of a brand name. As everyone has heard by now, they just renamed the Five Hundred as Taurus.

Interestingly, Ford of Canada used both 'Lucerne' and Sceptre' as model names of the Mercury badged 'Monarch' in the 1950's and '60's.

Craig

8E45E
07-06-2007, 05:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude1961

Perhaps if Ford Motors had listened a bit more to Marianne Moore, the poet the company hired to think up new names for the all-new car that became the Edsel, that car might have succeeded. Just think: "The 2007 Mongoose Civique. Have You Driven a Ford...Lately?"

Bams50 made a great point. Comparing Studebaker's model names with the sexier names adopted by the competition is interesting. Ramber model names were equally staid...Ambassador...Classic...yawn. They also had the Rebel (better) and the American (good 'ol USA). Brooks Stevens "Sceptre" would have been a wonderful Studebaker name had the company survived. "Studebaker Sceptre" kind of rolls off the tongue. The worst name for an American car currently in production might be Buick Lucerne. Lucerne was a brand of milk marketed by Safeway in the 1970s!

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser


Ford has just learned the value of a brand name. As everyone has heard by now, they just renamed the Five Hundred as Taurus.

Interestingly, Ford of Canada used both 'Lucerne' and Sceptre' as model names of the Mercury badged 'Monarch' in the 1950's and '60's.

Craig

JBOYLE
07-06-2007, 05:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude
The most confusing name IMO, was Custom. It was the low end model in 50-52, Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/


In the late 60s...Ford did the same thing.
The stripped Galaxie 500 was the Custom 500.
The LTD was the top of the line model (Galaxie 500 LTD) but by 68, it was just LTD..a Galaxie body with hidden headlights and better trim.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

JBOYLE
07-06-2007, 05:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude
The most confusing name IMO, was Custom. It was the low end model in 50-52, Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/


In the late 60s...Ford did the same thing.
The stripped Galaxie 500 was the Custom 500.
The LTD was the top of the line model (Galaxie 500 LTD) but by 68, it was just LTD..a Galaxie body with hidden headlights and better trim.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Studedude1961
07-06-2007, 05:38 PM
Ford renaming the 500 "Taurus" is another bone-headed move by the folks in Dearborn. "Taurus" is synonymous with "rental car" now, no longer jelly-bean cutting edge. GALAXIE 500 might have been a wiser choice. Studebaker sorta tried the same thing in 1964, trying to get away from the Lark name by reintroducing the Commander nameplate and marketing the lowly Standard as the Challenger (good name). The Challenger went on to grace Dodge products by decade's end. I doubt any other manufacturer will ever pick up the name "Taurus" should Ford decide to again discard it.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
07-06-2007, 05:38 PM
Ford renaming the 500 "Taurus" is another bone-headed move by the folks in Dearborn. "Taurus" is synonymous with "rental car" now, no longer jelly-bean cutting edge. GALAXIE 500 might have been a wiser choice. Studebaker sorta tried the same thing in 1964, trying to get away from the Lark name by reintroducing the Commander nameplate and marketing the lowly Standard as the Challenger (good name). The Challenger went on to grace Dodge products by decade's end. I doubt any other manufacturer will ever pick up the name "Taurus" should Ford decide to again discard it.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Mark57
07-06-2007, 05:38 PM
Gee... read through all the posts on this topic and saw no mention of great [u]TRUCK</u> names - Transtar,[8D] Scotsman (appropriate for the time, but not PC these days[}:)]) and Champ[8D]... recalling that Transtar was so good it was picked up by the competition after Studebaker quit making them[:0]. 'Course, I might be a bit biased;).

Mark
57 Transtar

Mark57
07-06-2007, 05:38 PM
Gee... read through all the posts on this topic and saw no mention of great [u]TRUCK</u> names - Transtar,[8D] Scotsman (appropriate for the time, but not PC these days[}:)]) and Champ[8D]... recalling that Transtar was so good it was picked up by the competition after Studebaker quit making them[:0]. 'Course, I might be a bit biased;).

Mark
57 Transtar

Aspalen
07-06-2007, 06:00 PM
GOLDEN HAWK.

Every one remember a neighbor, or an uncle that had one.


TRANSTAR.

just powerfull.



Lennart...

Aspalen
07-06-2007, 06:00 PM
GOLDEN HAWK.

Every one remember a neighbor, or an uncle that had one.


TRANSTAR.

just powerfull.



Lennart...

rockne10
07-06-2007, 06:51 PM
And what's a Pelham? http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/IMAGES/56Champion_Pelham_2dr_wagon.jpg

rockne10
07-06-2007, 06:51 PM
And what's a Pelham? http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/IMAGES/56Champion_Pelham_2dr_wagon.jpg

lstude
07-06-2007, 06:54 PM
quote: And what's a Pelham?

The 56 wagons were named for country clubs. Pinehurst is in North Carolina, I think Parkview was in Canada. Not sure where Pelham was.

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lstude
07-06-2007, 06:54 PM
quote: And what's a Pelham?

The 56 wagons were named for country clubs. Pinehurst is in North Carolina, I think Parkview was in Canada. Not sure where Pelham was.

Leonard Shepherd
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Studedude1961
07-06-2007, 06:54 PM
PELHAM...Henry Pelham was Prime Minister of Great Britain from 1743-1754 according to good 'ol Google. I liked Studebaker's station wagon names in the 1950s...they were stately names for stately cars.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
07-06-2007, 06:54 PM
PELHAM...Henry Pelham was Prime Minister of Great Britain from 1743-1754 according to good 'ol Google. I liked Studebaker's station wagon names in the 1950s...they were stately names for stately cars.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

lstude
07-06-2007, 06:56 PM
Pelham Country Club is in Pelham, New York.

According to Google, Parkview is also in New York.

Leonard Shepherd
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lstude
07-06-2007, 06:56 PM
Pelham Country Club is in Pelham, New York.

According to Google, Parkview is also in New York.

Leonard Shepherd
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mbstude
07-06-2007, 07:05 PM
I've always liked Wagonaire; not just Wagon, but Wagonaire. [:o)]

Transtar is a good one, as is Gran Tourismo and Avanti.

I agree with Leonard on the St. Regis Brougham. That name just screams elegance and sophistication. Another one that comes to mind is President Skyway.





quote:And what's a Pelham?

The small town in Georgia where my grandad grew up. :D


Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

mbstude
07-06-2007, 07:05 PM
I've always liked Wagonaire; not just Wagon, but Wagonaire. [:o)]

Transtar is a good one, as is Gran Tourismo and Avanti.

I agree with Leonard on the St. Regis Brougham. That name just screams elegance and sophistication. Another one that comes to mind is President Skyway.





quote:And what's a Pelham?

The small town in Georgia where my grandad grew up. :D


Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

lstude
07-06-2007, 07:13 PM
quote:The small town in Georgia where my grandad grew up.

I bet in georgia they call it Pel'um. :D

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg

lstude
07-06-2007, 07:13 PM
quote:The small town in Georgia where my grandad grew up.

I bet in georgia they call it Pel'um. :D

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg

mbstude
07-06-2007, 07:18 PM
quote:I bet in georgia they call it Pel'um. :D


Is there another way to say it? ;)

Oh, another one I like is Broadmoor.

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

mbstude
07-06-2007, 07:18 PM
quote:I bet in georgia they call it Pel'um. :D


Is there another way to say it? ;)

Oh, another one I like is Broadmoor.

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

StudeRich
07-06-2007, 07:20 PM
Two of my favorites are Challenger and Daytona, both stolen by Dodge:(

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
07-06-2007, 07:20 PM
Two of my favorites are Challenger and Daytona, both stolen by Dodge:(

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

8E45E
07-06-2007, 07:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mark57

[b][blue][size=3][font=Arial]Gee... read through all the posts on this topic and saw no mention of great [u]TRUCK</u> names -
Mark
57 Transtar


Don't forget the Metro, Ace, Boss, Mogul, and Chief line of Stude trucks!!:D The same truck maker picked up the 'Metro' name for their cab-foward step-vans. And Willys used 'Ace' for their small car as did Pontiac with 'Chief' in conjunction with another word. And Ford picked up 'Boss' for something completely different![}:)]

Craig

8E45E
07-06-2007, 07:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mark57

[b][blue][size=3][font=Arial]Gee... read through all the posts on this topic and saw no mention of great [u]TRUCK</u> names -
Mark
57 Transtar


Don't forget the Metro, Ace, Boss, Mogul, and Chief line of Stude trucks!!:D The same truck maker picked up the 'Metro' name for their cab-foward step-vans. And Willys used 'Ace' for their small car as did Pontiac with 'Chief' in conjunction with another word. And Ford picked up 'Boss' for something completely different![}:)]

Craig

mbstude
07-06-2007, 07:37 PM
Ya know, a lot of Studebaker's names got stolen by other auto makers. Are their any that Studebaker stole from somewhere else? [:o)]



Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

mbstude
07-06-2007, 07:37 PM
Ya know, a lot of Studebaker's names got stolen by other auto makers. Are their any that Studebaker stole from somewhere else? [:o)]



Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA

Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/provingground2.jpg

8E45E
07-06-2007, 07:44 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

Ya know, a lot of Studebaker's names got stolen by other auto makers. Are their any that Studebaker stole from somewhere else? [:o)]



Story has it, Billy Rootes of Rootes Group was very P.O.'d at Studebaker for 'stealing' the Hawk name as it was used on a model of the Humber since 1951. And Willys sort of used the Lark name, but it was hypenated as 'Aero-Lark' for their small car in 1953 or so.

Craig

8E45E
07-06-2007, 07:44 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

Ya know, a lot of Studebaker's names got stolen by other auto makers. Are their any that Studebaker stole from somewhere else? [:o)]



Story has it, Billy Rootes of Rootes Group was very P.O.'d at Studebaker for 'stealing' the Hawk name as it was used on a model of the Humber since 1951. And Willys sort of used the Lark name, but it was hypenated as 'Aero-Lark' for their small car in 1953 or so.

Craig

studegary
07-06-2007, 09:03 PM
The Ferrari Daytona didn't come out until 1968.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
07-06-2007, 09:03 PM
The Ferrari Daytona didn't come out until 1968.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

Guido
07-06-2007, 09:08 PM
quote: Transtar is a good one, as is Gran Tourismo and Avanti.Matthew,

It is actually Gran Turismo (I just checked the side of my '62 to be sure).

Also, the Broadmoor is a resort in Colorado Springs. I have a friend from college who spent a summer working there when we were in school.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
07-06-2007, 09:08 PM
quote: Transtar is a good one, as is Gran Tourismo and Avanti.Matthew,

It is actually Gran Turismo (I just checked the side of my '62 to be sure).

Also, the Broadmoor is a resort in Colorado Springs. I have a friend from college who spent a summer working there when we were in school.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

StudeRich
07-06-2007, 09:20 PM
Who's Ferrari? (MIKE)

StudeRich
07-06-2007, 09:20 PM
Who's Ferrari? (MIKE)

stude53
07-06-2007, 09:48 PM
My favorite, of course, is Starliner; second is Conestoga.

And For Bams, A corvette is a small, maneuverable, lightly armed warship, smaller than a frigate.


[img=left]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/stude53/studesmall2.jpg[/img=left]Bob Feaganes (stude53)
53 Starliner Hardtop
Newton Grove, NC

stude53
07-06-2007, 09:48 PM
My favorite, of course, is Starliner; second is Conestoga.

And For Bams, A corvette is a small, maneuverable, lightly armed warship, smaller than a frigate.


[img=left]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/stude53/studesmall2.jpg[/img=left]Bob Feaganes (stude53)
53 Starliner Hardtop
Newton Grove, NC

bams50
07-06-2007, 10:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by stude53



And For Bams, A corvette is a small, maneuverable, lightly armed warship, smaller than a frigate.



Huh... thanks- now I know...

I was going to look it up myself, but then decided, frigate.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
07-06-2007, 10:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by stude53



And For Bams, A corvette is a small, maneuverable, lightly armed warship, smaller than a frigate.



Huh... thanks- now I know...

I was going to look it up myself, but then decided, frigate.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

DilloCrafter
07-06-2007, 10:13 PM
I got this from p.16 of the Dec. 1993 Turning Wheels article on the '55 trucks. Here are some good truck model names that were used internally by dealers in 1955 for Studebaker's various model numbers of the E Series trucks:

My favorites -
Amazon (1/2 ton, 185 Six)
Adonis (1/2 ton, 245 Six)

and the rest -
Ballad (3/4 ton)
Campus (1 ton)
Cypress (1 ton chassis & cab)
Globin (should it be Goblin?) (1 1/2 ton)
Hexane (2 ton)


http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

DilloCrafter
07-06-2007, 10:13 PM
I got this from p.16 of the Dec. 1993 Turning Wheels article on the '55 trucks. Here are some good truck model names that were used internally by dealers in 1955 for Studebaker's various model numbers of the E Series trucks:

My favorites -
Amazon (1/2 ton, 185 Six)
Adonis (1/2 ton, 245 Six)

and the rest -
Ballad (3/4 ton)
Campus (1 ton)
Cypress (1 ton chassis & cab)
Globin (should it be Goblin?) (1 1/2 ton)
Hexane (2 ton)


http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

Chris Pile
07-06-2007, 10:21 PM
I seem to remember that Ford used "Starliner" around '61.

"Rockne" had mass recognition and appeal at the time, it wasn't just noble.

"Lucerne" is a city in Switzerland - so Buick was going after the lovers of Old World Europe.

"Daytona" was used by Shelby on its hot coupe about the time Studebaker closed.

The "Four Seasons" was an odd name, Hawk is a good one.

I like Champion, Avanti, and St. Regis.

Chris Pile
The Studebaker Special
Midway Chapter SDC

Chris Pile
07-06-2007, 10:21 PM
I seem to remember that Ford used "Starliner" around '61.

"Rockne" had mass recognition and appeal at the time, it wasn't just noble.

"Lucerne" is a city in Switzerland - so Buick was going after the lovers of Old World Europe.

"Daytona" was used by Shelby on its hot coupe about the time Studebaker closed.

The "Four Seasons" was an odd name, Hawk is a good one.

I like Champion, Avanti, and St. Regis.

Chris Pile
The Studebaker Special
Midway Chapter SDC

studegary
07-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Studebaker didn't maintain the Starliner name and Ford picked up the rights. That is why the '58 Studebaker hardtop is a Starlight, instead of the Starliner that it should have been.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
07-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Studebaker didn't maintain the Starliner name and Ford picked up the rights. That is why the '58 Studebaker hardtop is a Starlight, instead of the Starliner that it should have been.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

Studedude1961
07-07-2007, 12:11 AM
Chris Pile: Great post and good points! Lucerne might be and is a city in Switzerland but for we Baby Boomers who grew up on Safeway's "Lucerne" brand milk it means...milk! I want my Buicks to be Electras, and LeSabres and Centurys! I know these names mean squat to the newest generations but they aren't buying Buicks anyway! I may be alone in thinking that by throwing away the name and rank heritage, GM, Ford and Chrysler did a great disservice to themselves. After all, spending millions upon millions of dollars to buy brand recognition only to throw it all away doesn't make much sense. As noted in a few posts earlier, Ford has decided to scrap the 500 name and call the same car the "Taurus." For most people, "Taurus" is short for "Rental Car." But if Ford had tacked on the Galaxie name to the 500...who knows. Make it a little hotrod and again, who knows where it could go saleswise but Taurus? No thanks. That name anymore has the sex appeal of pull-along luggage.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
07-07-2007, 12:11 AM
Chris Pile: Great post and good points! Lucerne might be and is a city in Switzerland but for we Baby Boomers who grew up on Safeway's "Lucerne" brand milk it means...milk! I want my Buicks to be Electras, and LeSabres and Centurys! I know these names mean squat to the newest generations but they aren't buying Buicks anyway! I may be alone in thinking that by throwing away the name and rank heritage, GM, Ford and Chrysler did a great disservice to themselves. After all, spending millions upon millions of dollars to buy brand recognition only to throw it all away doesn't make much sense. As noted in a few posts earlier, Ford has decided to scrap the 500 name and call the same car the "Taurus." For most people, "Taurus" is short for "Rental Car." But if Ford had tacked on the Galaxie name to the 500...who knows. Make it a little hotrod and again, who knows where it could go saleswise but Taurus? No thanks. That name anymore has the sex appeal of pull-along luggage.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

StudeRich
07-07-2007, 12:53 AM
Are you sure those aren't the Western Union telegram code words, if so no one actually spoke them! And they sure don't sound like anyone EVER would! [:0] :D:D


quote:Originally posted by DilloCrafter

I got this from p.16 of the Dec. 1993 Turning Wheels article on the '55 trucks. Here are some good truck model names that were used internally by dealers in 1955 for Studebaker's various model numbers of the E Series trucks:
My favorites -
Amazon (1/2 ton, 185 Six)
Adonis (1/2 ton, 245 Six)
and the rest -
Ballad (3/4 ton)
Campus (1 ton)
Cypress (1 ton chassis & cab)
Globin (should it be Goblin?) (1 1/2 ton)
Hexane (2 ton)

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
07-07-2007, 12:53 AM
Are you sure those aren't the Western Union telegram code words, if so no one actually spoke them! And they sure don't sound like anyone EVER would! [:0] :D:D


quote:Originally posted by DilloCrafter

I got this from p.16 of the Dec. 1993 Turning Wheels article on the '55 trucks. Here are some good truck model names that were used internally by dealers in 1955 for Studebaker's various model numbers of the E Series trucks:
My favorites -
Amazon (1/2 ton, 185 Six)
Adonis (1/2 ton, 245 Six)
and the rest -
Ballad (3/4 ton)
Campus (1 ton)
Cypress (1 ton chassis & cab)
Globin (should it be Goblin?) (1 1/2 ton)
Hexane (2 ton)

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

PlainBrownR2
07-07-2007, 01:14 AM
Best and worst and names are kinda difficult for me as the names usually denoted trim and engine options for Studebaker, among other things. So I gonna change it a little here:
Best name: Avanti
Worst name: Splendida(The prototype name that had that was gonna be in place of Avanti. I pray they did not have a yellow color option in the model line for this vehicle, lol)
Ford's Taurus wasnt as much the one that got me as a rental car. The Escort was a real wonder as a rental car that could be built on the cheaperrrr(and not Stude longevity cheaper either,lol). Four cylinder Yamaha engine in a few, and not even the real meat of the SHO(we got the name and some trim items) or Cosworth performance parts the overseas counterparts received. Therefore, theres two models in that era that I look at and see them as four wheels and some metal, not much else, lol.


1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]

PlainBrownR2
07-07-2007, 01:14 AM
Best and worst and names are kinda difficult for me as the names usually denoted trim and engine options for Studebaker, among other things. So I gonna change it a little here:
Best name: Avanti
Worst name: Splendida(The prototype name that had that was gonna be in place of Avanti. I pray they did not have a yellow color option in the model line for this vehicle, lol)
Ford's Taurus wasnt as much the one that got me as a rental car. The Escort was a real wonder as a rental car that could be built on the cheaperrrr(and not Stude longevity cheaper either,lol). Four cylinder Yamaha engine in a few, and not even the real meat of the SHO(we got the name and some trim items) or Cosworth performance parts the overseas counterparts received. Therefore, theres two models in that era that I look at and see them as four wheels and some metal, not much else, lol.


1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]

sumf
07-07-2007, 01:26 AM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

I was just kidding about Dictator.

I really think Studebaker's best and most enduring name was Champion. People today who know little about Studebakers connect Studebaker with Champion...even the Keystone club used it on their Lark! [:0]

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/StudesatfairgroundsKeystonecar.jpg

My favorite name was the 32-33 St Regis. Chrysler used it in the mid 50s.

The most confusing name IMO, was Custom. It was the low end model in 50-52, but then they made it the high end sedan model in 63. Most customers and dealers didn't order it. they ordered the Regal, which was a much better name and Buick picked that up.

I have also always liked the Commander State . Don't know what it means but it sounds important.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg



But, had you seen a St Regis before or after you found that you liked the name?
The vision that comes to mind after you can connect the name to the style blinds you (or me?)

Karl Haas

sumf
07-07-2007, 01:26 AM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

I was just kidding about Dictator.

I really think Studebaker's best and most enduring name was Champion. People today who know little about Studebakers connect Studebaker with Champion...even the Keystone club used it on their Lark! [:0]

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/StudesatfairgroundsKeystonecar.jpg

My favorite name was the 32-33 St Regis. Chrysler used it in the mid 50s.

The most confusing name IMO, was Custom. It was the low end model in 50-52, but then they made it the high end sedan model in 63. Most customers and dealers didn't order it. they ordered the Regal, which was a much better name and Buick picked that up.

I have also always liked the Commander State . Don't know what it means but it sounds important.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg



But, had you seen a St Regis before or after you found that you liked the name?
The vision that comes to mind after you can connect the name to the style blinds you (or me?)

Karl Haas

8E45E
07-07-2007, 09:14 AM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

How about Dictator! [:0]

Leonard Shepherd



The 'Dictator' name didn't have bad connotations at one time. In Canada, one of the department stores here (either Hudson's Bay or Simpson's; can't remember which), used the 'Dictator' name for their store brand of household appliances. Here is a 'Dictator' mantel radio.[:0]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1254/747803732_8344a0c57f.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1089/747803752_f5547d9e1e.jpg?v=0

Craig

8E45E
07-07-2007, 09:14 AM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

How about Dictator! [:0]

Leonard Shepherd



The 'Dictator' name didn't have bad connotations at one time. In Canada, one of the department stores here (either Hudson's Bay or Simpson's; can't remember which), used the 'Dictator' name for their store brand of household appliances. Here is a 'Dictator' mantel radio.[:0]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1254/747803732_8344a0c57f.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1089/747803752_f5547d9e1e.jpg?v=0

Craig

lstude
07-07-2007, 09:30 AM
quote:But, had you seen a St Regis before or after you found that you liked the name?
The vision that comes to mind after you can connect the name to the style blinds you (or me?)

Karl Haas

When I first saw a 32 St Regis Studebaker I was surprised that they had put a name like that on a car that early. Auto manufacturers had just started naming cars in the early 30s. Before they had names like Big Six, Standard Six and Light Six and EU (whatever that means).

I liked the name as soon as I heard it, but I also liked the car, so I don't know which affected me more.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg

lstude
07-07-2007, 09:30 AM
quote:But, had you seen a St Regis before or after you found that you liked the name?
The vision that comes to mind after you can connect the name to the style blinds you (or me?)

Karl Haas

When I first saw a 32 St Regis Studebaker I was surprised that they had put a name like that on a car that early. Auto manufacturers had just started naming cars in the early 30s. Before they had names like Big Six, Standard Six and Light Six and EU (whatever that means).

I liked the name as soon as I heard it, but I also liked the car, so I don't know which affected me more.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg

raprice
07-07-2007, 09:53 AM
As far as Studebaker names are concerned, I like Conestoga, which conjures up some of Studebaker's history. Champion, Avanti and Land Cruiser are among my favorite Stude names.
Dictator, on the other hand, doesn't have a good ring to it.
I agree that, if Studebaker had survived, Sceptre would have been terrific.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

raprice
07-07-2007, 09:53 AM
As far as Studebaker names are concerned, I like Conestoga, which conjures up some of Studebaker's history. Champion, Avanti and Land Cruiser are among my favorite Stude names.
Dictator, on the other hand, doesn't have a good ring to it.
I agree that, if Studebaker had survived, Sceptre would have been terrific.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

Alan
07-07-2007, 10:39 AM
If you look in TW July 2006, page 26. you will find and article about names including the Thunderbird that Stude had. There was one Thunderbird built by Hellings Victress company, that Virgil Rice was General Manager of in 53. There is an article in Car Craft Feb. 1954 pages 40-42 that shows the car before the owner of Victress company William-I-Boyce-Smith wrecked. Virgil Rice was the Vice President of The Avanti Owners Ass. in the 70's.

Alan
07-07-2007, 10:39 AM
If you look in TW July 2006, page 26. you will find and article about names including the Thunderbird that Stude had. There was one Thunderbird built by Hellings Victress company, that Virgil Rice was General Manager of in 53. There is an article in Car Craft Feb. 1954 pages 40-42 that shows the car before the owner of Victress company William-I-Boyce-Smith wrecked. Virgil Rice was the Vice President of The Avanti Owners Ass. in the 70's.

lstude
07-07-2007, 11:10 AM
There is an interesting story about the lawsuit between the names Studebaker Wagonaire and Jeep Wagoneer.

I can't remember who sued who, but both cars were designed by Brooks Stevens at about the same time and I assume he also thought up the names.

Leonard Shepherd
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lstude
07-07-2007, 11:10 AM
There is an interesting story about the lawsuit between the names Studebaker Wagonaire and Jeep Wagoneer.

I can't remember who sued who, but both cars were designed by Brooks Stevens at about the same time and I assume he also thought up the names.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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lstude
07-07-2007, 11:57 AM
quote: Not a single mention of "Speedster" yet?

Curtis French

You're right Curtis. I wonder why they dropped Speedster so fast? Maybe because many cars had used the word Speedster in the 20s and 30s.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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lstude
07-07-2007, 11:57 AM
quote: Not a single mention of "Speedster" yet?

Curtis French

You're right Curtis. I wonder why they dropped Speedster so fast? Maybe because many cars had used the word Speedster in the 20s and 30s.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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8E45E
07-07-2007, 12:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude


quote: Not a single mention of "Speedster" yet?

Curtis French

You're right Curtis. I wonder why they dropped Speedster so fast? Maybe because many cars had used the word Speedster in the 20s and 30s.

Leonard Shepherd



Studebaker did use the name Speedway in the 1930's.:)

Craig

8E45E
07-07-2007, 12:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude


quote: Not a single mention of "Speedster" yet?

Curtis French

You're right Curtis. I wonder why they dropped Speedster so fast? Maybe because many cars had used the word Speedster in the 20s and 30s.

Leonard Shepherd



Studebaker did use the name Speedway in the 1930's.:)

Craig

studegary
07-08-2007, 06:22 PM
Studebaker did use the Speedster name prior to the 1955 President Speedster that most associate with Speedster. Without looking it up, I think that the prior Speedster was about 1923-1924.

I think that the truck names listed by DilloCrafter are not "model names", but are the Telegram shorthand reference names used internally by Studebaker. The cars had a set of names like that also.



Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
07-08-2007, 06:22 PM
Studebaker did use the Speedster name prior to the 1955 President Speedster that most associate with Speedster. Without looking it up, I think that the prior Speedster was about 1923-1924.

I think that the truck names listed by DilloCrafter are not "model names", but are the Telegram shorthand reference names used internally by Studebaker. The cars had a set of names like that also.



Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

StudeRich
07-08-2007, 06:40 PM
Very definitely; See my earlier post:
"Are you sure those aren't the Western Union telegram code words, if so no one actually spoke them! And they sure don't sound like anyone EVER would!"


quote:Originally posted by studegary

I think that the truck names listed by DilloCrafter are not "model names", but are the Telegram shorthand reference names used internally by Studebaker. The cars had a set of names like that also.
Gary L.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
07-08-2007, 06:40 PM
Very definitely; See my earlier post:
"Are you sure those aren't the Western Union telegram code words, if so no one actually spoke them! And they sure don't sound like anyone EVER would!"


quote:Originally posted by studegary

I think that the truck names listed by DilloCrafter are not "model names", but are the Telegram shorthand reference names used internally by Studebaker. The cars had a set of names like that also.
Gary L.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

bob40
07-08-2007, 08:02 PM
Stutz had a model named Challenger from 1931-34

bob40
07-08-2007, 08:02 PM
Stutz had a model named Challenger from 1931-34

Gary1953
07-08-2007, 10:13 PM
No one has named " President " yet. I think for an American car that is one of the best when it first came out. In the twenties and thirties President had a different connotation than it has had in the last few years.

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Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

Gary1953
07-08-2007, 10:13 PM
No one has named " President " yet. I think for an American car that is one of the best when it first came out. In the twenties and thirties President had a different connotation than it has had in the last few years.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/1953Stude.jpg

Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

HookedonStudies
07-10-2007, 01:47 PM
I like the Avanti name very much and there is no disputing it's great reputation and longevity. However, the Avanti name was a serious departure from the company's marketing plans at the time it was introduced. The passenger cars in the 1963 Model year were birds (Larks & Hawks.) So logically, it could be argued that the Avanti should have been the Eagle, (I know, I know, AMC used Eagle later) or perhaps, the Raptor or Condor (any bird of prey.) Avanti (as a name) has other issues as well. I have heard many people mispronounce or struggle to pronounce (or spell) Avanti - but never Lark or Hawk. Likewise, an average consumer in 1963, understood the connection between the Lark name and the automobile. Not so much with the Avanti. Avanti is an Italian word, (definition: "in front") which could have been as much a disadvantage as an advantage. An American car with a foreign name, appealing while possibly sounding too much like an import?

The earlier names: Champion, Dictator, President, & Commander are all leader-type names. Great continuity, nice positioning and all excellant names.



55 Commander
58 Transtar
62 GT Hawk
66 Cruiser

HookedonStudies
07-10-2007, 01:47 PM
I like the Avanti name very much and there is no disputing it's great reputation and longevity. However, the Avanti name was a serious departure from the company's marketing plans at the time it was introduced. The passenger cars in the 1963 Model year were birds (Larks & Hawks.) So logically, it could be argued that the Avanti should have been the Eagle, (I know, I know, AMC used Eagle later) or perhaps, the Raptor or Condor (any bird of prey.) Avanti (as a name) has other issues as well. I have heard many people mispronounce or struggle to pronounce (or spell) Avanti - but never Lark or Hawk. Likewise, an average consumer in 1963, understood the connection between the Lark name and the automobile. Not so much with the Avanti. Avanti is an Italian word, (definition: "in front") which could have been as much a disadvantage as an advantage. An American car with a foreign name, appealing while possibly sounding too much like an import?

The earlier names: Champion, Dictator, President, & Commander are all leader-type names. Great continuity, nice positioning and all excellant names.



55 Commander
58 Transtar
62 GT Hawk
66 Cruiser

8E45E
03-03-2010, 07:08 PM
quote:Originally posted by PlainBrownR2

Best and worst and names are kinda difficult for me as the names usually denoted trim and engine options for Studebaker, among other things. So I gonna change it a little here:
Best name: Avanti
Worst name: Splendida(The prototype name that had that was gonna be in place of Avanti.


There was also a Lark 'Splendida' prototype.[:0]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4404622867_28aaa7e936_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2718/4404624079_94f0cdbceb_b.jpg

Craig

Milaca
03-03-2010, 07:16 PM
Nice Craig!! I don't recall having ever seen that picture. What other rare treats are you holding out on? Please share! :)

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Autumn at Lake Barget
In the middle of Minnestudea

stude62
03-03-2010, 07:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

IMO, the worst name of any car was the

Daihatsu Charade

But maybe that is what Studebaker should have called the 57-58 Packards! :D

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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I take it you never saw the "car". The name fit it perfectly. Diahatsu has the WORST car commercials, bar none.

Stu K

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac35/stude62/thumb-2.jpg
'63 Lark Regal, "Miss Rose"

stude62
03-03-2010, 07:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E


quote:Originally posted by PlainBrownR2

Best and worst and names are kinda difficult for me as the names usually denoted trim and engine options for Studebaker, among other things. So I gonna change it a little here:
Best name: Avanti
Worst name: Splendida(The prototype name that had that was gonna be in place of Avanti.


There was also a Lark 'Splendida' prototype.[:0]

Craig




I have never seen this! How FABULOUS is this car? VERY!

Stu K

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac35/stude62/thumb-2.jpg
'63 Lark Regal, "Miss Rose"

Jim B PEI
03-03-2010, 08:15 PM
"Splendida"? No worse than "Superba" (I thought those Checkers were Super-BA or Super-B-A when I was a kid) That car looks like it should have an electric metal sunroof with a wind deflector. And an in-line six with split exhaust manifold and dual exhausts. Sort of staid/sexy.

Jim B on PEI
63 259 o/d Wagonaire
57 Champion W4 o/d
57 Champion W4 automatic

8E45E
03-03-2010, 11:18 PM
quote:Originally posted by Milaca

Nice Craig!! I don't recall having ever seen that picture. What other rare treats are you holding out on?


The dash!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2111/1520795377_ea8ae92191_b.jpg

Craig

Chris_Dresbach
03-03-2010, 11:24 PM
A marketing home run: "Golden Hawk"

Chris Dresbach
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1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

Chris_Dresbach
03-03-2010, 11:28 PM
Craig! DUDE!!![:0] NICE!!!!!!!!:D[^][8D][:p]

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1-1.jpg
1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

Studebaker Wheel
03-04-2010, 12:27 AM
I am impressed. I have never seen that car before (regardless of name). I would like to know more about it.

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

Milaca
03-04-2010, 12:42 AM
Wow! The vanity holds 3 Raymond Loewey designed Coke bottles and 2 Dixie cups! Beat that Chrysler mini-van!! I also notice an Illinois state map from a Standard gas station in the vanity. Is there also a coin tray for holding change for the many Illinois toll booths? :)Does anyone know if this car still exists? Anyone know who designed it? How many questions may I ask before I get the boot? :D

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Autumn at Lake Barget
In the middle of Minnestudea

StudeRich
03-04-2010, 01:20 AM
Simply amazing car, and a very luxurious Interior like a Cruiser on steroids.

This looks very Brooks Stevens, the Vanity is so large, the radio had to be Vertical like the '76 Volare/Aspen!

It really shows what the '63 Lark MAY have looked like, without Management, Finance, Production Dept. and Stockholders interference! [^]

StudeRich

Stude Mick
03-04-2010, 01:42 AM
I would have to say my favourite name is "SPEEDSTER" closely followed by "AVANTI"

Michael Pink
Victoria, Australia

1955 Commander Coupe
1961 Lark Cruiser
1962 GT Hawk
1963 Avanti R1

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Studebaker Car Club Of Australia Website
http://www.studebakercarclub.net

Warren Webb
03-04-2010, 02:48 AM
The grille looks alot like one used on the 60 Pontiac. Notice also the wipers are the old style that was last used in 62, replaced in 63. Being Studebaker used Delco radios, the vertical dial could have been a version of the one used on the 63 Corvette. The body side moulding coupled with the lower moulding just above the rocker gives the car a lower, pleasing appearance too. Thanks Craig for great pictures!

60 Lark convertible
61 Champ
62 Daytona convertible
63 G.T. R-2,4 speed
63 Avanti (2)
66 Daytona Sport Sedan

maxpower1954
03-04-2010, 03:42 AM
Quick - what was the first made up name for an American car? Hint: it was 1966...Russ Farris

1963 GT Hawk R-2 4-speed
1964 Avanti R-1 Auto

8E45E
03-04-2010, 06:51 AM
quote:Originally posted by maxpower1954

Quick - what was the first made up name for an American car? Hint: it was 1966...Russ Farris


Camaro

8E45E
03-04-2010, 07:19 AM
quote:Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel

I am impressed. I have never seen that car before (regardless of name). I would like to know more about it.


For someone who has nearly everything Studebaker-related, that's saying a LOT![:0][^] The exterior was included with some photos of Brooks Stevens concepts and ideas I recently won on Ebay. The back is rubber-stamped with 'Studebaker-Packard Styling Dept. Photo' along with blanks for the date and number which read '10/7/61' and '192-1'. The remainder are G.T. Hawk styling studies and couple of familiar auto show concepts. The interior photo is from Studebaker: The Postwar Years by Richard Langworth on page 129. I put two and two together to determine that interior is from the same car. The caption in the Langworth book only states the Vanity was a 'novel idea' with no mention of it being a prototype/concept. The only other related items I have are these concept drawings that were forwarded to me some time ago; either from Matt or Dylan. (Can't remember who now, so I don't know which one to credit.)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2694/4406429332_782ff1d8f3_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4405665783_0498e30084_o.jpg

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Craig

stude62
03-04-2010, 01:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude1961

Perhaps if Ford Motors had listened a bit more to Marianne Moore, the poet the company hired to think up new names for the all-new car that became the Edsel, that car might have succeeded. Just think: "The 2007 Mongoose Civique. Have You Driven a Ford...Lately?"

Bams50 made a great point. Comparing Studebaker's model names with the sexier names adopted by the competition is interesting. Ramber model names were equally staid...Ambassador...Classic...yawn. They also had the Rebel (better) and the American (good 'ol USA). Brooks Stevens "Sceptre" would have been a wonderful Studebaker name had the company survived. "Studebaker Sceptre" kind of rolls off the tongue. The worst name for an American car currently in production might be Buick Lucerne. Lucerne was a brand of milk marketed by Safeway in the 1970s!

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser


You don't like "Lucerne"? It's so soft, so pleasant. Its a city in Switzerland!

IMHO the worst automobile names are the ones like the Nissan "Cube" (which is counter to the idea of "wheels"), and the Ford Aspire (what does it aspire to be?) and the Ford Freestyle, which sound so dated, reminding me of parents throwing "teen mixers" for "young adults" and wanting to have "rap sessions" with their children.

But my all time favorite name for a car comes from China in the late 1950s because its so over the top and has absolutly nothing to do with anything but propaganda. It was for a four-door car built for bureaucrats who were lucky enough to get a car - any car - to drive. Its name: "The East Glows";)

Stu K

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac35/stude62/thumb-2.jpg
'63 Lark Regal, "Miss Rose"

8E45E
03-04-2010, 02:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by stude62
Its name: "The East Glows";)


Here's a few early postwar Japanese cars with odd names:
http://www.toyota.co.jp/Museum/data_e/a03_08_8.html

I belive Nissan still calls the Z a 'Fairlady' in its home market. Datsun/Nissan was smart in designating numbers such as B210, 710, etc. here in North America. They knew cars with names like 'Sunny' and 'Violet' would never make a sale here.

Craig

dictator27
03-04-2010, 02:37 PM
There is one Studebaker model name missing here. Director. It was used on certain model Studes sold in Europe. I think which model and why it was changed should be easy to figure out.

Terry

4961Studebaker
03-04-2010, 02:42 PM
Best and worst names.

Seems today's manufactures are trending towards number designation Infinity for example,
While others hold onto tradition in naming.

Worst names non Studebaker
Le Car
Golf
Festiva - there was nothing Festival, or party like in that little box.

Best Non Stude
Tahoe, Denali, Feeling of space beauty and gradure, outdoors and long lasting.
And the SS designation Surprising it's still in use after WWII, but there's no mistaking its meaning when it comes to Cars.

Best Studebaker names
Daytona and Commander
Trucks #, letter designation.


Worst,
Not sure [8)]



ChopStu
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/kkad0711/IMG_5411.jpg
119 weeks till completion.

Milaca
03-04-2010, 02:54 PM
Model names that Studebaker should have used (or at least considered using): Indy, Hoosier, Sherwood, Brooks, Rustsalot, Leaksalot....;)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2491/3963476412_7a12ba7be0_t.jpg
Autumn at Lake Barget
In the middle of Minnestudea

dictator27
03-04-2010, 03:12 PM
The Le Car was marketed in Canada for a while as Le Frog. Didn't go over well in Quebec.

Terry

8E45E
03-05-2010, 01:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich
It really shows what the '63 Lark MAY have looked like, without Management, Finance, Production Dept. and Stockholders interference!


Yep, its amazing to think would could have been if the cost-cutters didn't keep a lid on tooling costs. Most interesting to me are the '61 Ford-like door handles that are part of the side trim.

Craig

stude62
03-05-2010, 02:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by 4961Studebaker

Best and worst names.

Seems today's manufactures are trending towards number designation Infinity for example,
While others hold onto tradition in naming.

Worst names non Studebaker
Le Car
Golf
Festiva - there was nothing Festival, or party like in that little box.

Best Non Stude
Tahoe, Denali, Feeling of space beauty and gradure, outdoors and long lasting.
And the SS designation Surprising it's still in use after WWII, but there's no mistaking its meaning when it comes to Cars.

Best Studebaker names
Daytona and Commander
Trucks #, letter designation.


Worst,
Not sure [8)]



ChopStu
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/kkad0711/IMG_5411.jpg
119 weeks till completion.



I knew an abrasive woman when I was at OSU - she was dating one of my High School friends. What they saw in her I have no idea, but the girl was ugly, psychotic and dangerous. She drove a white Renault LeCar and her vanity plates (with a capital V) said "Miss Thing". At least she was honest about that.

Stu K

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac35/stude62/thumb-2.jpg
'63 Lark Regal, "Miss Rose"

N8N
03-05-2010, 03:16 PM
I'm guessing that that "Splendida" from the comments already made was probably a styling exercise that was trying out ideas that were actually used albeit in a toned down form for '63. The dash actually does look very '63-ish, it just looks like the vanity was made smaller, vertical radio didn't make it, etc.

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

Jim B PEI
03-05-2010, 03:40 PM
About Japanese home market cars: was just in New Zealand where they import used cars from Japan and other places, as well as the white-market new cars. I've noticed that the Japanese cars have all sorts of semi-coherent "Japlish" name modifiers that add nothing to the understanding of what the car 'is' and almost sound like they mean something, even if you don't understand. I saw a basic Toyota Corolla Hatchback L with "Super Windy G" added. A friend there has an Isuzu Rodeo Turbodiesel Wizard Wu &lt;g&gt; The only time I remember a NA car company doing something similar was then Kaiser added the colour in chrome script to the fender of the Kaiser Deluxes. While Academy Blue, Ceramic Green, Cardinal, and Oakwood Brown sound okay, imagine driving a Claypipe Grey.

Jim B on PEI
63 259 o/d Wagonaire
57 Champion W4 o/d
57 Champion W4 automatic

studerodder
03-06-2010, 07:44 AM
c'mon guys, CRUISER is the coolest!

8E45E
03-06-2010, 07:55 AM
quote:Originally posted by Jim B PEI
While Academy Blue, Ceramic Green, Cardinal, and Oakwood Brown sound okay, imagine driving a Claypipe Grey.


You forgot their pale yellow color, 'Flax'!!

Craig

COMMANDERPINK1
03-06-2010, 08:11 AM
How abou YUGO dont go
Lucerne also called them Lucifer

Tom

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8E45E
03-06-2010, 09:14 AM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

I'm guessing that that "Splendida" from the comments already made was probably a styling exercise that was trying out ideas that were actually used albeit in a toned down form for '63.


That is a given in the industry with very few exceptions. The showcar version will have either something impractical on it that won't appeal to the masses such as the oversize Vanity/glove compartment, or the the cost cutters will dictate some interesting features be removed such as the door handles just to save a buck or two per car.

In modern times, I was very disappointed the new production Dodge Challenger didn't remain a true pillarless two door hardtop like the 2006 showcar. Apparently, Daimler at the time didn't want to budget extra engineering dollars on the required body strengthing to make it a true hardtop; which is rather ironic. Mercedes Benz makes more true two door hardtops than any other car manufacturer, so one would think most of the extra development costs to make it pillarless would have been next to nil.

Craig

studeefrek
03-06-2010, 12:40 PM
look at the 51 hub caps and see the thunderbird logo ford ask if studebaker was going to use name and they gave ford the go ahead to use it

27 commander 47 M5 50 2dr 51 conv. 50 starlite 37 coupe express

studeefrek
03-06-2010, 12:49 PM
hudson had a thing about bugs (hornut wasp)

27 commander 47 M5 50 2dr 51 conv. 50 starlite 37 coupe express

studerodder
03-07-2010, 05:33 PM
CRUISER!

556063
03-07-2010, 06:09 PM
My favorite Studebaker name: Challenger. For Studebaker, it was too little too late.

My Favorite all-time nameplate: Intrepid. Taken from the USS Intrepid, the current floating museum in NY Harbor that survived more Kamakazi attacks than any other Naval ship, to represent what was at the time the former Chrysler Corporation's best effort to fight the ever increasing footprint of Japanese Imports as the name for their volume car in the large sedan segment.

Toyota Land Cruiser. Dodge Challenger. Do any other Studebaker names live on?

SlotBaker
03-07-2010, 10:28 PM
And then there are; Econ-O-Miler '58 Taxi, Marshal '58 Police, Zip.

I like Cruiser.


quote:Originally posted by dictator27

Director. It was used on certain model Studes sold in Europe.
And the Dictator was the Director in Australia.


8E45E - Craig, Mentioned these truck names back on 07/06/07, and I was just hoping that someone might tell us the years that those names were used.

Metro,
Ace,
Boss,
Mogul,
Chief.

I've got a page on our club website attempting to list names;
http://studebakercarclubnsw.com/heritage05.html
and I'd like to make it as complete and accurate as possible.
:)

Steve K
1963 Lark Cruiser
SCCNSW, Australia.

Milaca
03-07-2010, 10:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by 556063

My favorite Studebaker name: Challenger.
Toyota Land Cruiser. Dodge Challenger. Do any other Studebaker names live on?

International continues to use the Transtar name on a series of heavy trucks. Here is a weblink to info and pics of such: http://www.internationaltrucks.com/Trucks/Trucks/Series/TranStar/Ownership/
Since 2006 a Dodge Charger could be had with a Daytona appearance package.

8E45E
03-07-2010, 10:52 PM
quote:Originally posted by SlotBaker

Metro,
Ace,
Boss,
Mogul,
Chief.


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Craig

SlotBaker
03-07-2010, 11:11 PM
Craig, Thank you.
1936, Got it.
Very Cool.
:)

Steve K
1963 Lark Cruiser
SCCNSW, Australia.

MyStude_Baker
03-08-2010, 03:59 AM
You're right about the Edsel. Few cars went through as much as that poor thing. That's why in 1988 I bought one for myself. Ford spent a lot of money trying to come up with a name of the "E" car. In fact, the best names were given to each series. Ranger, Pacer, Corsair, Citation, and the wagons: Bermuda, Villager, and the Roundup. However, it wasn't Ford that wanted the name, it was Ernest Breech, who had been calling it that for some time. In fact, when they did public surveys no one even knew who Edsel was? They know now, but for all the wrong reasons. The car might have made it in spite of the name, but there were too many strikes against it: Recession, strikes, which limited steering columns, clocks, and even the mechanism that operated speed o' meters. No Edsel never had a chance, but it was one hell of a car for all the right reasons. Oh yes. I like Land cruiser, but I'm not biased.

1951 Commander Land cruiser

8E45E
03-08-2010, 07:31 AM
quote:Originally posted by MyStude_Baker
The car might have made it in spite of the name, but there were too many strikes against it: Recession, strikes, which limited steering columns, clocks, and even the mechanism that operated speed o' meters. No Edsel never had a chance, but it was one hell of a car for all the right reasons.


It has come to light in recent years, it was some within Ford Motor Company who did NOT wish it to succeed, and padded all the numbers to make it look bad; especially when it didn't hit their sales targets in 1958. True, the recession of that year got all the middle priced cars, but it was only temporary. In Canada, Ford sold the Monarch and Meteor and Mercury trucks with unique trim that cost extra, along with the marketing expenses to go with it. And they sold in far less numbers in some years than the Edsel did, yet they were successful enough in Ford's eyes to keep them in production for several years. That is the main reason I tend to believe it was a setup on Ford's part to label the Edsel a failure.

Craig

Chantony
03-08-2010, 09:25 AM
Funnily enough,we successfully grew lucerne on the farm as a food supplement .It had a deep root system and could help prevent rising water tables.It would seem weird driving a Lucerne.
I thought Starliner and Starlite ( starlight) were the best names ever.The connotation was into the future with inter planetary travel,huge glass areas to admire the stars as you sped to the moon,plus many people still go on about the beautiful glow of the instrument panel at night.
It's funny the small things people recall about cars that have gone by.
Transtar was a great name.The star of the transport field.

A.C.Moisley

Studedude1961
03-08-2010, 04:23 PM
"Splendida" is much better for you than sugar!