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64V19816
03-11-2012, 11:02 AM
The Zip Van

sweetolbob
03-11-2012, 11:07 AM
The Zip Van

WOW!!

That must have been one h@ll of a saturday evening party.;):D

I'm partial to Avanti's but who would know.

Bob

63t-cab
03-11-2012, 11:11 AM
This has Avanti written all aover it.

Chris_Dresbach
03-11-2012, 11:13 AM
Lark (as compared to a Chrysler 300 series)

stall
03-11-2012, 11:16 AM
IMHO the 53 Coupe still looks good today. It's swoopy, lithe lines compare well today to the block like style of say a Rolls-Royce; Look at the block like 53 Chevy next to the Studebaker coupe. I have a Speedster and love it but the 53 coupe was my favorite at 13 years old and still is today.

1962larksedan
03-11-2012, 11:20 AM
I'd say Avanti as well. Though today's swoopy styling on the modern cars does leave me very cold.

Ricardo
03-11-2012, 11:26 AM
Agree with Chris. The Lark design got old but still is not obsolete (specailly 1963 imh), as compared with the new designs of 4 door sedans today

rockinhawk
03-11-2012, 11:38 AM
I have to agree with the 53-54 C/K . Not my favorite, but the most modern styling. Looks like they were shaped by the wind.

Gunslinger
03-11-2012, 11:42 AM
I can see Lark type cars being ghetto-ized like Chrysler 300's or Kia Souls, Nissan Cube's...rubber band tires, big spinner wheels, etc. I certainly don't like that look at all, but can see the Lark models being ruined by that look.

Overall...and as biased as I am, the Avanti is the most modern looking Studebaker design. The design lends itself to updating...which Tom Kellogg did with the AVX and Avantis from 2001-2007. Again...I'm biased since I own a 2002.

52hawk
03-11-2012, 11:43 AM
I think just about every Chrysler product built today is using a Lark grille!! Even my 05 dakota looks like a Studebaker,and the grille is attached to the hood like a Hawk!-but still,Avanti is the answer in this thread.

SN-60
03-11-2012, 11:55 AM
To: 64V19816,---- Your probably right about the Zip-Van being the most contemporary. If the Post Office Dept. started to use the Studebaker Zip Van again today, it would blend right in with their other vehicles and
look as 'modern' as any of them.

StudeRich
03-11-2012, 11:55 AM
Hands down, it's Avanti!

Update: OK, Disagree then!

SN-60
03-11-2012, 12:02 PM
To: StudeRich,-------- Your not seeing it.......this is a trick question!!

kmac530
03-11-2012, 12:08 PM
Champ truck. But what do I know.

1962larksedan
03-11-2012, 12:22 PM
Stude car: Avanti.
Stude truck: Zip Van.

Personal prejudice here: I'm really developing a taste for the 1963 Lark 4 door; despite it having both curved as well as squarish lines, it come across as visually balanced.

parts
03-11-2012, 12:34 PM
I'm prejudiced... :)

tstoj38
03-11-2012, 12:36 PM
The Zip Van is as modern looking as the current postal trucks.

tbredehoft
03-11-2012, 12:54 PM
Agree or Disagree~



Disagree.

Most modern, Avanti, hands down

I would choose the '53 C body as best looking car.

FlatheadGeo
03-11-2012, 12:56 PM
I have to go with the 1953s and The AVANTI!

Flashback
03-11-2012, 01:02 PM
I guess I am supposed to just answer agree or disagree, not say what I think is the most modern looking----RIGHT?
Then I disagree.

plwindish
03-11-2012, 01:25 PM
A v a n t i !!!!

8E45E
03-11-2012, 01:53 PM
1. The Avanti by far. The shape still stands the test of time.

2. The Zip Van, if only for its size and practicality, though someone would have designed a UPS-like rounded fiberglass nose for the front of it by now.

Craig

Marie Mac
03-11-2012, 02:38 PM
No specific answer...I just think all the studes look modern...they were way ahead of their time...

candbstudebakers
03-11-2012, 02:40 PM
Avanti-----53 coupe-----64 GT hawk supercharged------52 convert or hardtop.

Chris_Dresbach
03-11-2012, 03:28 PM
Lets also look at trucks. Take any '54 or '55 C cab (with the four hole grille) and compare it to basically any dodge pickup today. The '54 2R series is very similar to a Dodge, but there is one other Studebaker that is even closer to the Dodge. I compared a photo of the non-production 1R (with the higher door lines) to my grandpas Dodge Dakota. The grille and the door lines are exactly the same.

woodysrods
03-11-2012, 10:31 PM
I love C/K's BUT!!
AVANTI'S without question.
Good Roads
Brian

JimsLeadCommander
03-12-2012, 12:29 AM
The "Most Modern looking" would be the ones with the dad-gummed FINS!!! {:= ) ( =:}

bridgegaurd
03-12-2012, 03:34 PM
The Zip Van

Is this one included, it's the latest design.

http://www.rodauthority.com/news/the-new-studebaker-designs-are-out-and-they-aint-pretty/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-new-studebaker-designs-are-out-and-they-aint-pretty

Corvanti
03-12-2012, 05:18 PM
Lets also look at trucks. Take any '54 or '55 C cab (with the four hole grille) and compare it to basically any dodge pickup today. The '54 2R series is very similar to a Dodge, but there is one other Studebaker that is even closer to the Dodge. I compared a photo of the non-production 1R (with the higher door lines) to my grandpas Dodge Dakota. The grille and the door lines are exactly the same.

agree with chris. when i first saw, in person, the "new" dodge ram truck in '93/94?, i thought it looked like a stude truck - loved it, and that was before i was "into" studebakers. the dakota even more so. it seems to me that started all the "retro" designs that continue to this day. the one "retro i wished gm would have done different was the "hhr". the style was based on a '49 suburban. can you imagine that as a full size truck? :cool:

as far as studebaker cars: see my "sig pic": avanti!!! :D

Lenny R2
03-12-2012, 06:03 PM
Avanti for sure

Son O Lark
03-13-2012, 05:07 AM
Only true if you consider a Zip Van a Studebaker.

DEEPNHOCK
03-13-2012, 07:57 AM
A Zip Van is most certainly a Studebaker.
What do you mean by saying that?
Just curious.


Only true if you consider a Zip Van a Studebaker.

8E45E
03-13-2012, 08:15 AM
A Zip Van is most certainly a Studebaker.
What do you mean by saying that?
Just curious.

In all honesty, Jeff, the Zip Van was actually a Postal Service design, with slight modifications by the winning bidder to build them, which was Studebaker. This included the familiar instrument cluster, steering wheel, etc. The body itself as we know was supplied by Met-Pro from Pennsylvania, and since it was a U.S. government commissioned project, they dictated the body HAD to be made in a certain area of PA as unemployment was high at the time. There was a good article in TW about that some time ago.

Craig

Son O Lark
03-13-2012, 08:21 AM
Was the Excaliber prototype a Stude? Are the later Avanti's considered Corvettes or T-Birds? Just because you use a (fill in the blank)chassis, does that make the whole vehicle a (fill in the blank) make or model? If you put a '32 Ford coupe body on a custom chassis is it a custom or a Ford? It just depends on your definition of a make.

8E45E
03-13-2012, 08:28 AM
Was the Excaliber prototype a Stude? Are the later Avanti's considered Corvettes or T-Birds? Just because you use a (fill in the blank)chassis, does that make the whole vehicle a (fill in the blank) make or model? If you put a '32 Ford coupe body on a custom chassis is it a custom or a Ford?

Ask your insurace agent next time you have to insure one. Some may recall there was a huge debate amongst insurers back in the seventies when there were all kinds of kits available for Volkswagen Beetle chassis, be it a Dune Buggy kit, or a Bradley GT or a 1931 Alfa Romeo knockoff. Some still insisted it was a VW regardless what it had for a body, and some said it was now a 'sports car' in the case of the Bradley GT.

Craig

Gunslinger
03-13-2012, 08:59 AM
With my 2002 Avanti the insurance company accepts it as an Avanti. The state of Maryland registers it as an Avanti but when it goes to emissions testing the VIN comes up as a Firebird. It hasn't caused problems. There are some states that have registration issues with it. I believe at least one Avanti owner had big problems taking an Avanti from Arizona to California (or the reverse...can't remember for sure which) and having it registered. Different states have different procedures or are at least very unfriendly to resolving issues beyond their limited comprehension of certain automobiles.

Flashback
03-13-2012, 09:21 AM
I thought we we only supposed to vote to agree or disagree, but looks like opinions are being voiced. I already disagreed, BUT, I will voice my opinion. A zip van is about as modern as a pot bellied stove. There is only one clear choise. The 53 coupe.

Son O Lark
03-13-2012, 10:50 AM
With my 2002 Avanti the insurance company accepts it as an Avanti. The state of Maryland registers it as an Avanti but when it goes to emissions testing the VIN comes up as a Firebird. It hasn't caused problems. There are some states that have registration issues with it. I believe at least one Avanti owner had big problems taking an Avanti from Arizona to California (or the reverse...can't remember for sure which) and having it registered. Different states have different procedures or are at least very unfriendly to resolving issues beyond their limited comprehension of certain automobiles. Which brings up another question---- How are most Stude chassised Zip-Vans registered?

DEEPNHOCK
03-13-2012, 03:28 PM
I am really surprised to see you take this stance...
Stude 6 cylinder engine... Stude (B/W) trans...Stude (Dana) diff... Stude beam axle... Stude Steering...Stude gauge cluster...
Met Pro only supplied the initial body's and then it (assembly) was moved to South Bend.
A Zip Van is as much Studebaker as any Studebaker built from 1852 on....
So a WWII Deuce and a half is not a Stude?
I don't get it....



In all honesty, Jeff, the Zip Van was actually a Postal Service design, with slight modifications by the winning bidder to build them, which was Studebaker. This included the familiar instrument cluster, steering wheel, etc. The body itself as we know was supplied by Met-Pro from Pennsylvania, and since it was a U.S. government commissioned project, they dictated the body HAD to be made in a certain area of PA as unemployment was high at the time. There was a good article in TW about that some time ago.

Craig

8E45E
03-13-2012, 04:50 PM
I am really surprised to see you take this stance...
Stude 6 cylinder engine... Stude (B/W) trans...Stude (Dana) diff... Stude beam axle... Stude Steering...Stude gauge cluster...
Met Pro only supplied the initial body's and then it (assembly) was moved to South Bend.
A Zip Van is as much Studebaker as any Studebaker built from 1852 on....
So a WWII Deuce and a half is not a Stude?
I don't get it....

LOL, Jeff,

I will admit a Zip-Van is more of a 'Studebaker' than a '57-'58 Packard is a 'Packard'!

It would be interesting to count up the 'Studebaker content' in components and labor to see what percentage it is. And when new, you or I could not walk into a Studebaker dealer and order one.

Craig

Santosh
03-13-2012, 05:17 PM
Here it is: Lark

14320

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure (http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/02/17/colorado-man-plots-return-studebaker/)

JeffDeWitt
03-13-2012, 10:36 PM
Is this one included, it's the latest design.

http://www.rodauthority.com/news/the-new-studebaker-designs-are-out-and-they-aint-pretty/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-new-studebaker-designs-are-out-and-they-aint-pretty

Umm....

http://cdn.speednik.com/files/2012/03/Studebaker-Lark.jpg

I wouldn't include that, especially as it looks like something fell on the front.

Chrycoman
03-14-2012, 01:07 AM
I am another that agrees the Avanti is the most modern looking Studebaker. No other car design has held up as well for such a long period of time, which is 50 years in 2012.

If Raymond Loewy's Studebaker proposals in 1962 had made it into production (for 1965), it too would be up there. Looking at the curved glass, tumblehome, and coke bottle side treatment, it would have done Studebaker well right into the mid-1970's. And done well in today's used bar of soap designs. The proposed desgin would not be using much, if anything, from the Lark body given its lower cowl and belt line and thus the two years plus needed to tool it for production.

And there is Studebaker's underated and ignored 1953 Studebaker sedan design, The sedans pale in comparison to the coupes, yes, but compare the sedans with the Chevrolet, Ford and Plymouth sedans of 1953-54 - clean, flowing lines, lower and longer looking. It's not until 1956-57 that the 1953 sedans start to look dated.

edpjr
03-14-2012, 01:18 AM
Avanti. I wanted one for 35 years before I got it. People that never heard of Studebaker ask me all the time if mine is a 70s, 80s or newer model car.

JimsLeadCommander
03-14-2012, 03:56 AM
I have my opinion too but, I'm wondering .......will the owner of this thread tell us the answer to his inquiry? And when?

Stu Chapman
03-14-2012, 09:43 PM
The 1966 Daytona Sports Sedan....but I'm somewhat biased since I had a hand in getting this one into production. Close seconds - the 1964 Daytona Convertible, the 1953 Starliner and Starlight Coupe, and of course the Avanti and GT Hawk.
Stu Chapman