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don samborski
07-02-2007, 07:51 PM
Can some one give me the colors for under the hood and trunk ...58 Golden Hawk...It looks like it was a gray..Any Thing Close?
Also thought i read that Air scoop under front end was Silver, not the color of body...is that correct?

Thanks Don.

lstude
07-02-2007, 08:20 PM
My Mother bought a 58 Silver Hawk new and I have some old pictures of it. It was probably painted the same as Golden Hawks.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/58Hawkengine1961-1.jpg

The cowl and inner fenders were body color

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/58HawkIsabelJaneintrunk-2.jpg

The trunk was silver-gray

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/58SilverHawkfront.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/58SilverHawkfrontbu.jpg

It looks like the air scoop was silver. I kept the car waxed and if the scoop had been white, it would have shown up more.

Leonard Shepherd
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N8N
07-02-2007, 09:01 PM
re: valve covers, I wouldn't call it a "slop job" but they were indeed installed on the engine before the engine was painted. The valve covers were painted before they were installed on the engine. I assume that the factory had paint masks that slipped over the valve covers, any overspray is minor and only around the very bottom of the valve covers.

re: trunk, possibly not pertinent to a '58 but on my '62 Lark the sound deadening/undercoat was painted over in body color from the factory. The car was red so it really showed up. However, the undercoat really soaks up the paint so it was more of a red-tinted black, not a glossy red like the rest of the trunk lid.

nate

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N8N
07-02-2007, 09:03 PM
leonard, that is a great looking car! One thing though, I thought the jack retainer clip was gloss black, not silver?

Also re: gloss black on underhood parts; I believe it was really gloss black but not a very good one; it apparently weathered quickly to a semi-gloss finish. I am only repeating what I've been told, here - this is NOT a definitive answer.

nate

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don samborski
07-02-2007, 09:04 PM
Thanks that will help.....I wonder if there is a color code for both..
Interesting pictures....The Fan shroud and valve covers are glossy black.. I thought they were a duller black???

Don

lstude
07-02-2007, 09:09 PM
That may be misleading. I did a lot of waxing on them, but I didn't repaint them. The Studebaker lettering and pin striping was my doing also. I know the valve covers were gloss black and had some silver overspray from the factory on them.

Leonard Shepherd
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don samborski
07-02-2007, 09:20 PM
Silver over spray???? Are you saying it was a slop job from the factory?

lstude
07-02-2007, 09:34 PM
Yes, this has been discussed on this forum. They sprayed the engine after the valve covers were on.

Joe Parsons has a beautiful 58 Golden Hawk that he had at South Bend. He has done a lot of research into how it looked originally and his father was a Studebaker dealer and his car was sold new to his Uncle. Here is a picture I took of his car at the show. The shroud looks shiny.

By the way, his car scored 398 points at South Bend.

If you email me I will give you his email address.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/S-1.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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jbwhttail
07-02-2007, 09:41 PM
If you want the color match for the grey in the trunk I just had my 56J done and my body shop matched it perfectly. Call 317 539 4259 and ask for Chris or Troy. They will email you the formula. Inside the holes(circles) in deck lid was a coat of black of sound deadening undercoat so to speak. the panel seperating trunk from back seat was also grey, but the latches for back seat were black, (where it locks in on the back cowl).

If you remove the front scoop and can find some silver(the size of a quarter) your paint shop or paint supplier can hit it with a color spectrometer and match color.

Last time I do this,I promise

lstude
07-02-2007, 09:45 PM
Here are some more pictures of Joe's car

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/S-2.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/S-3.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg

don samborski
07-02-2007, 10:40 PM
I've never posted a pic before so i thought i would give it a shot....heres the chasis so far...and the pic in 1959.



http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/tailored/007.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/tailored/007.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/tailored/DONHAWK.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/tailored/DONHAWK.jpg[/IM[IMG]http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/tailored/DONHAWK.jpgG]

StudeRich
07-02-2007, 10:40 PM
Leonard; note that Joe's correct looking '58 GH has the correct Gray with a touch of Tan in it, NOT Silver!

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

don samborski
07-02-2007, 10:45 PM
StudeRich: Are you talking about the trunk? I needed to use a 57 trunk for my 58... the gray was a lot darker than on Leonards 58.

don.

StudeRich
07-02-2007, 10:46 PM
WOW Don; that's an impressive engine! nice job! In the pic the Aluminum Silver on the block looks very white, must be a reflection. I think you will find with research that the fan blades should be Black and the Oil Cap also. That is how I remember them from '58, and all the '57 & '58's I have and do own.

Yes, the trunk on Joe's looks good. Leonard's Pic is too old and poor quality to tell anything...sorry Leonard! LOL!

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

don samborski
07-02-2007, 10:55 PM
StudeRich: Thanks for the compliment....I can use a little encouragement... On the Fan. I know and I am going to paint it black and Oil cap to.
jbwhttail said he wouldn't do it again.....I am doing this myself..........I don't think I can do it again either.

lstude
07-03-2007, 04:27 AM
Is this the same Hawk that is in your 59 picture? I love those old pictures as you can tell because I post them all the time. You were a lucky guy to have a Golden Hawk. Was it yours or your parents?

Bob Burke called that gray "Gredge". A combination of gray and beige!

Leonard Shepherd
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don samborski
07-03-2007, 07:06 AM
Leonard: Yes same car....It was my Dads....Here is a picture of car a couple of years ago when I found it in Wisconsin. Has wrong hood on car but I have original one.



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lstude
07-03-2007, 08:57 AM
Fantastic! Did someone paint the car black?

I wish I could find our 58 Silver Hawk. I still have the Serial number if I run across one.

Hope you will keep posting pictures of the progress.



Leonard Shepherd
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John Kirchhoff
07-03-2007, 04:06 PM
Concerning the old photo of the girls in the trunk, in these modern days if we're going to do a body dump, we make sure they're dead before we try to stuff them in the trunk. Those were some classy ladies though, even though they were struggling to get out, they managed to keep the smiles on their faces!

don samborski
07-03-2007, 05:47 PM
My Dad painted the car black while i was in the Navy....He the fins painted over also..the pink mylar was still on some of the fin.

I am working on the body now..will post pictures later.