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Studebaker Wheel
12-27-2011, 08:24 PM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/31presbroughamdarrellscopy.jpg?t=1325035110

My vote goes to the 1931 President model 90 Brougham. While many Studebakers could be called attractive, stylish or cute very few could come close to matching the classic era Presidents when it comes to "elegance."

Incidentally this photo was taken at a site very significant to the history of Studebaker. Anyone have an idea of where that might be?

JRoberts
12-27-2011, 08:27 PM
It would be hard to beat that one for elegance that is for sure. Absolutely beautiful.

bob40
12-27-2011, 08:31 PM
Tippecanoe Place?

8E45E
12-27-2011, 08:49 PM
You're dead wrong, Richard!

THIS has to be the MOST ELEGANT Studebaker! Color coordination at its FINEST to go along with this outstandingly SUMPTUOUS interior!! :D :D





















http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3162/3282676668_a4c09649c8_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3494/3281936681_554509da3c_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3162/3282975144_8314e6901b_b.jpg

Craig

kurtruk
12-27-2011, 08:53 PM
I dunno. I'm suprised they would already be harkening back to another time for something they wished they had by putting fake representations on a very luxurious car.
'Course that trend continued in the industry for a very long time now, didn't it?

Not trying to make any one angry. That's just one way I view it. :)

Studebaker Wheel
12-27-2011, 09:12 PM
Tippecanoe Place?

No but you are in the right city!

jclary
12-27-2011, 09:13 PM
http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/images/icons/icon5.png Are fake Landau bars considered "elegant?"

On this car....Yes! I prefer the term "Decorative" Landau Bars.:)

I am a fan of most cars of the thirties. Not only Studebaker, but others of the era made cars that I consider "rolling art." When I was a child, I was often enthralled by what I found in the beautiful wooden framed display cases I saw in stores. From the display of old pocket watches in my Grandfather's shop, to electric trains in toy stores. I now have one of those antique display cases in my living room.

I still get the same rush when standing at the back of one of these old cars and peering in through the back window. :)

Studebaker Wheel
12-27-2011, 09:16 PM
You're dead wrong, Richard!

THIS has to be the MOST ELEGANT Studebaker! Color coordination at its FINEST to go along with this outstandingly SUMPTUOUS interior!!

Yike, butt ugly comes to mind. But what can we expect from a truck guy. I guess elegance like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

jclary
12-27-2011, 09:21 PM
You're dead wrong, Richard!

THIS has to be the MOST ELEGANT Studebaker! Color coordination at its FINEST to go along with this outstandingly SUMPTUOUS interior!!

Yike, butt ugly comes to mind. But what can we expect from a truck guy. I guess elegance like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I would agree with you Richard, with one exception. If this was the vehicle that picked you up and carried you AWAY from the battle...then considering it the "most elegant Studebaker" is forgivable.

Studebaker Wheel
12-27-2011, 09:23 PM
I dunno. I'm suprised they would already be harkening back to another time for something they wished they had by putting fake representations on a very luxurious car.
'Course that trend continued in the industry for a very long time now, didn't it?

Not trying to make any one angry. That's just one way I view it. :)

Actually the landau arms were only used by Studebaker in the 1929-31 era and only on the President. Their presence was undoubtedly intended to give an "air" of class. You know like putting stainless mouldings on in the later years (i.e. they had no function other than to be decorative). Incidentally there was also a '31 Commander Brougham that had a nearly identical body but without the Landau arms.

Gary1953
12-27-2011, 09:26 PM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/31presbroughamdarrellscopy.jpg?t=1325035110

My vote goes to the 1931 President model 90 Brougham. While many Studebakers could be called attractive, stylish or cute very few could come close to matching the classic era Presidents when it comes to "elegance."

Incidentally this photo was taken at a site very significant to the history of Studebaker. Anyone have an idea of where that might be?

Albert Erskines home.

Bob Andrews
12-27-2011, 09:38 PM
My vote for 'Most Elegant' would go to most Studebakers from the mid to late 30s. Pure artwork. When I get to see one in person, it gives me chills.

I don't know which ones are which; I don't study pre-war cars much since the prices of them likely preclude any chance of my owning one:( I particularly recall a '38 of some model that blew me away at the museum a couple years back. J'adore!

avantilover
12-27-2011, 09:45 PM
I agree with Richard, this one is perfect.

Studebaker Wheel
12-27-2011, 09:48 PM
Albert Erskines home.

You win!! Now we have to decide what it is you won. Maybe the undying admiration of everyone here on the forum. On the other hand that may be a little strong.

rockne10
12-27-2011, 09:55 PM
Actually the landau arms were only used by Studebaker in the 1929-31 era and only on the President.I suppose, after carriage manufacturing was concluded, Studebaker produced no true Landau models?
Also, hard to imagine no one ever took a Studebaker chassis of the era to a coach builder to produce a true one. Shades of Norma Desmond's Isotta-Fraschini.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iAsU4IunUZg/TmJKt5lyDdI/AAAAAAAAL5s/7fta85XONWU/s400/snapshot20061019232039xs0.jpg

JBOYLE
12-27-2011, 09:59 PM
Also, hard to imagine no one ever took a Studebaker chassis of the era to a coach builder to produce a true one.


Even the finest Studebaker, the ones that are Full Classics" are a step below the chassis usually procured for custom bodies.

But having said that, there are records of Model T Town Cars and the German bodied Model As...so there is always an exception.

Studebaker Wheel
12-27-2011, 10:17 PM
I suppose, after carriage manufacturing was concluded, Studebaker produced no true Landau models?
Also, hard to imagine no one ever took a Studebaker chassis of the era to a coach builder to produce a true one. Shades of Norma Desmond's Isotta-Fraschini.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/26lebaronbodybig6copy.jpg?t=1325041988

Well actually Studebaker did in 1926 commissioning LeBaron of New York to execute 5 different custom bodies on the 127" Big Six chassis. The one above was referred to as a Sport Cabriolet. According to some literature there were a few other body companies who made custom bodies for Studebaker at that time. There is actually one survivor (a Lebaron Town car) that belongs to an ASC member in California. It has been undergoing restoration for several years.

kmac530
12-27-2011, 10:58 PM
The 31 in the original posts link is gorgeous and very elegaant. The chrome spokes on the wheels are a nice touch.

I still think the most elegant for me, and it may just be a preferential era thing, is the Blue GT (I believe '63) that was posted about a week ago....I was drooling.

rockne10
12-28-2011, 12:00 AM
I suspect, in it's day, the '26 Town Car was considered pretty elegant. In comparison, LOOKS LIKE A TANK!!!
The '31, while probably every bit as virile as the '26, has the enhanced engineering to make it's strength appear delicate. Those wire wheels where every bit as strong as the artillery wheels that were it's predecessor. In fact, they were more flexible in addition to being more elegant.

Richard has a multitude of experience...and a keen eye. I would take his opinion to the bank.

Chris_Dresbach
12-28-2011, 12:17 AM
I'm going to go against everybody and go with the Weasel..... :rolleyes:
I prefer the slightly more modern look of the early '30s Studebaker's, and I think one of Studebaker's finest designs for pre-war cars has to be the '37 regardless is it's a Coupe Express, Dictator, Commander, or President. My other favorite is the '33 President Speedway. There is nothing I don't like about a '33, beautiful cars. For POST WAR, I have to go with the '53 Coupe. The lines of a '53 are a masterpiece, Bourke really knew what he was doing on that car.

Chris Pile
12-28-2011, 12:20 AM
I was thinking Four Seasons Roadster....

clonelark
12-28-2011, 03:46 AM
Hope you don't think i'm Hijacking your thread, But,
To me the most elegant cars Studebaker made in the 30s was a 1934 Studebaker LandCruiser with fender skirts. Anyone have a good quality color picture of one? Found a nice 35, but i like 34s better.
Here is a 1935. Look at all the pictures.
http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2010/09/01/hmn_feature5.html

Studebaker Wheel
12-28-2011, 05:07 AM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/34STUDEBAKERLF5email-1.jpg?t=1325066346
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/34STUDEBAKERRRemail.jpg?t=1325066167

Sorry but there are no known restored '34 President Land Cruisers. This is a '34 Commander, identical except for the approx 6" shorter wheelbase. These photos were supplied to me by John Heilig for an article I did for the December 2002 issue of Collectible Automobile. The car is owned by Nicola Bulgari. I love the '34-'35 Land Cruisers though I would not rate them above the 1931-33 Presidents insofar as elegance is concerned.

BobPalma
12-28-2011, 07:17 AM
Most elegant Studebaker? How can you top any chassis on which is mounted a St. Regis Brougham-style body? BP

Ron Dame
12-28-2011, 08:03 AM
I know it's a bit post-Studebaker ownership, but I'll claim Studebaker influenced the styling. That';s my story and I'm sticking to it, right or wrong!

8E45E
12-28-2011, 08:25 AM
I love the '34-'35 Land Cruisers though I would not rate them above the 1931-33 Presidents insofar as elegance is concerned.

This one owned by the late Bob Yale certainly qualifies, even though it was was custom-built.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6587602429_743557e390_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6587611435_7b48362abc_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6587607933_1b525d659c_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6587605293_1b752814be_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6587614019_7a300035af_b.jpg

Craig

Steve T
12-28-2011, 03:43 PM
Have posted this one before, but it seems apt here...'33 President Speedway convertible visits SDC Hamilton Grimsby Museum event this past August...

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll260/StudeSteve/SDC%20Hamilton%20at%20Grimsby%20Museum%2013%20August%202011/100_0557.jpg

S.