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studecruiser
06-13-2007, 09:54 PM
64' 289. I suspect that my distributor is installed 180 degrees off. Is the vacuum advance supposed pointing toward the drivers side or the passenger side? If the passenger side then mine is off. Also, can't seem to find a diagram for firing order for the distributor - where is #1 on the distributor supposed to be? Need info ASAP.

Tom B
06-13-2007, 10:05 PM
I'm sure others will correct this if I'm wrong. My '53 (6 volt Delco) distributor has the vacuum advance pointing due east (with the car pointing north) The No. 1 spark plug wire is pointing north, it is the forward most wire.

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'53 Commander Coupe
'60 Lark VI
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All three Indiana built OD cars

lstude
06-13-2007, 10:27 PM
My finger in on the number 1 cylinder wire on my 64 289 engine. The vacuum advance is pointing towards the passenger side.

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JDP
06-13-2007, 10:27 PM
The location of the vacuum advance tells you little about the timing, it the position if the rotor relative to number one. If it's a 180 out of time, it'll point to number one on the exhaust stroke, not compression.

JDP/Maryland

64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
63 GT R2
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
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JDP
06-13-2007, 10:29 PM
Leonard, your number one is in the wrong place, but it makes little difference as long as it's timed right.

JDP/Maryland

64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
63 GT R2
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

studecruiser
06-14-2007, 10:32 AM
Got it running! Again, this is the place to come to get your problems solved. Hope to meet you all next week. Thanks, again.

lstude
06-14-2007, 10:49 AM
quote:Leonard, your number one is in the wrong place, but it makes little difference as long as it's timed right.

JDP/Maryland

Where should it be? [?]

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studebaker-R2-4-me
06-14-2007, 11:06 AM
Two or three south of you finger. It really does not matter which is number one on the distributor. Here is what I did two weeks ago after my distributer caved. You should remove the #1 cylinder spark plug (Drivers side closest to the rad - 1,3,5,7) stick your finger over the spark plug hole and find the compression stroke. Install the distributor and where ever the rotor is pointing is your #1 wire, counter clock wise to the firing order from there. My #1 wire was two south of your finger.

1964 GT Hawk soon to be R2 Clone

lstude
06-14-2007, 01:17 PM
Thanks. It is running real good, but I will change the wires when I get a chance. The guy who put the wiring harness in for me just drove it and told me it was scary!

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GTtim
06-14-2007, 06:39 PM
quote:[ It really does not matter which is number one on the distributor.

I think you may find that if you don't put the number one where it is supposed to be and get the rotor correctly oriented, that when you go to time the car the vacuum advance will be bumping into things and preventing you from getting the timing where you want it. Just a thought.

Tim K.
'64 R2 GT Hawk

curt
06-15-2007, 03:58 PM
Is it counter clock wise. Does the rotor turn counter clockwise? I'm not home and can't consult my books, counter clock wise roataion seems wrong, I'm not sure on this 289 engine.

Tom B
06-15-2007, 04:40 PM
I've advised Leonard not to change the wires, not to try to locate No. 1 TDC and put the rotor in the correct location. This will mess up the oil pump drive, the distributor won't 'seat' until the oil pump is properly lined up and things will go down-hill from there.

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'53 Commander Coupe
'60 Lark VI
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All three Indiana built OD cars

GTtim
06-15-2007, 08:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by curt

Is it counter clock wise. Does the rotor turn counter clockwise? I'm not home and can't consult my books, counter clock wise roataion seems wrong, I'm not sure on this 289 engine.


yes, counterclockwise

Tim K.
'64 R2 GT Hawk

N8N
06-15-2007, 08:27 PM
I like to "make things right," just put the dist in so that rotor points to no. 1 and body is correctly located, if it doesn't line up, just keep light pressure on the dist. body and bump the engine over with a remote starter switch, it will drop right in within half a revolution.

nate

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lstude
06-15-2007, 08:37 PM
quote:I've advised Leonard not to change the wires, not to try to locate No. 1 TDC and put the rotor in the correct location. This will mess up the oil pump drive, the distributor won't 'seat' until the oil pump is properly lined up and things will go down-hill from there.

I will take your advice Tom. Actually it goes very well with my "If it aint broke, don't fix it" philosophy. :D

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John Kirchhoff
06-15-2007, 10:43 PM
I like that, north, south, east and west. Now those are real men! If a woman were describing it, it'd be right, left forward or kinda in between!