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GeorgeColvin
07-20-2011, 11:07 PM
Hello,
I am restoring a '56 Flight Hawk. I was wondering how many Flight Hawks are still around?
I have only seen a few photos online which leeds me to believe there are not very many still around.
Anyone have a good number?
George

Welcome
07-20-2011, 11:49 PM
Hello,
I am restoring a '56 Flight Hawk. I was wondering how many Flight Hawks are still around?
I have only seen a few photos online which leeds me to believe there are not very many still around.
Anyone have a good number?
George

WELCOME ...to the SDC Forum!!!

Ok, now that we've got that formality out of the way...:rolleyes:

...it would be my "guess" there are less '56 Flight Hawks still around than there are '56 Power Hawks, or '56 Sky Hawks or '56 Golden Hawks. We tried buying a “survivor” ’56 Flight Hawk a few months back, but could not get together with the Seller on price.:(

How about sharing a few details about yours with your fellow Forum members??? TIA

candbstudebakers
07-21-2011, 12:21 AM
A friend of mine has a nice one but it is V-8 powered and stick shift he wants around $7,000.00 for it.

StudeRich
07-21-2011, 12:54 AM
WELCOME /Cut/...it would be my "guess" there are less '56 Flight Hawks still around than there are '56 Power Hawks, or '56 Sky Hawks or '56 Golden Hawks./Cut

You are probably correct about the Power Hawks and Golden Hawks, but not likely the Sky Hawks, they are much rarer than Flight Hawks which sold in much greater numbers.

[COLOR=darkred]Then of course, there is the desirability factor of a 6 Cylinder Hawk!

Welcome
07-21-2011, 06:02 AM
You are probably correct about the Power Hawks and Golden Hawks, but not likely the Sky Hawks, they are much rarer than Flight Hawks which sold in much greater numbers.

Then of course, there is the desirability factor of a 6 Cylinder Hawk!

Rich, do you (or for that matter anyone reading this) have a CD version of a recent SDC Membership Roster? If yes, does it have a searchable database? With that tool the Roster could be searched for each of the 4 '56 Hawk models. The resultant total of each model could then be applied to the original production number of each model to arrive at a "reference percentage." Naturally, this would only be representative of how many of each exist within the SDC Membership body, but still may provide some basis for speculating the total number still existing. Does anyone have a better approach to answer the OP’s questions??? TIA

8E45E
07-21-2011, 07:09 AM
Here's two more rare hardtop models that were discussed a while ago:

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?49935-56-Flight-Hawk-hardtop-56G-K7&highlight=flight

Craig

GeorgeColvin
07-21-2011, 01:11 PM
I belong to a Flight Hawk Google group that has 5 Flight Hawks around the world. Only 2 in the USA. My Hawk belonged to my Uncle that passed away last July. I am about 90 % done with a total restoration of the car. It will be about 75% original.
WELCOME ...to the SDC Forum!!!

Ok, now that we've got that formality out of the way...:rolleyes:

...it would be my "guess" there are less '56 Flight Hawks still around than there are '56 Power Hawks, or '56 Sky Hawks or '56 Golden Hawks. We tried buying a “survivor” ’56 Flight Hawk a few months back, but could not get together with the Seller on price.:(

How about sharing a few details about yours with your fellow Forum members??? TIA

j.byrd
07-21-2011, 02:00 PM
As the guys said, welcome to the forum. The only Flight Hawk I knew of was in Clinton, Tn. where I grew up. Our Grammar school principal bought it from the Studebaker dealer my Dad worked at, and Dad always teased him about being so cheap for buying a 6 banger Hawk. I thought it was cool looking, I remember it was two-tone blue, (but it's been a long time, could have been just blue) but as I got older, wondered if the Golden Hawk engine would transform it into a sneaky, unassuming looking, brand X beater, ha ! Glad to hear you're restoring it, good luck and let us see some pics when you can. John

mbstude
07-21-2011, 02:11 PM
Stephen Cade in Florida has a pretty nicely restored '56 Flight Hawk.

My grandfather has one as well, but it's had a V8 conversion and a '53 front end installed.

rockinhawk
07-21-2011, 02:54 PM
I had one in the boneyard up untill last year. It was pretty well picked clean, then scrap prices wet sky high.....

studegary
07-21-2011, 04:06 PM
For those that don't know, there were 4389 Flight Hawk coupes (C body) and 560 Flight Hawk hardtops (K body) built.
My guess at how many left is 250.

GeorgeColvin
07-27-2011, 04:35 PM
The judges at a Studebaker car show told me they would be surprised if there were 100. He said that is because most people don't restore the Flight Hawk as it was a six cyl.

Chapuis
08-22-2011, 05:44 PM
I am also restoring a 56 Flight Hawk. It's a K7 model (body n°202). I lieve in France and I know 3 like mine in France. The colour of my car (near Angers, in Loire valley) is snowcap white. The second is red and white near Marseille and the third is blue and white near Bordeaux. In Europe there is a lot of six cylinders because gazoline is more expensive than in USA. For 1956 Studebaker was a very expensive car for a French man. I think that it was like 80 000 or 100 000 Euros in 2011... There was more Studebaker in Belgium and Switzerland (Taxes lower...)

kpcoupe
08-22-2011, 07:28 PM
my grandpa has a 56 flight hawk. in southern missouri

8E45E
08-22-2011, 08:16 PM
One belonging to Ralph Novarra in Washington:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6081/6071728422_1b24b86ac2_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6075/6071731260_5e9196d60e_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6204/6071730228_2c9a0307f6_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/6071731712_0dca14c7a5_b.jpg

Craig

Welcome
08-22-2011, 08:38 PM
I am also restoring a 56 Flight Hawk. It's a K7 model (body n°202). I lieve in France and I know 3 like mine in France. The colour of my car (near Angers, in Loire valley) is snowcap white. The second is red and white near Marseille and the third is blue and white near Bordeaux. In Europe there is a lot of six cylinders because gazoline is more expensive than in USA. For 1956 Studebaker was a very expensive car for a French man. I think that it was like 80 000 or 100 000 Euros in 2011... There was more Studebaker in Belgium and Switzerland (Taxes lower...)

WELCOME ...to the SDC Forum!!!

8E45E
08-22-2011, 08:42 PM
WELCOME ...to the SDC Forum!!!

I think that should be BIENVENUE! for him! :D

Craig

studegary
08-23-2011, 12:45 PM
I am also restoring a 56 Flight Hawk. It's a K7 model (body n°202). I lieve in France and I know 3 like mine in France. The colour of my car (near Angers, in Loire valley) is snowcap white. The second is red and white near Marseille and the third is blue and white near Bordeaux. In Europe there is a lot of six cylinders because gazoline is more expensive than in USA. For 1956 Studebaker was a very expensive car for a French man. I think that it was like 80 000 or 100 000 Euros in 2011... There was more Studebaker in Belgium and Switzerland (Taxes lower...)

Welcome!
It is interesting that you are aware of three of only 560 Flight Hawk hardtops (K body) sold. They were only 2.9% of the 1956 Hawks.

PackardV8
08-23-2011, 09:06 PM
In Europe there is a lot of six cylinders because gazoline is more expensive than in USA. FWIW, I've owned both the Flight Hawk and several V8 Hawks. Driven at the same speeds and rates of acceleration, the Flight Hawk had about the same MPG as the V8s. The supposed economy of the 6-cyl Hawk is a myth. It takes a given amount of fuel to move a 3600# car and the flathead six is actually a less efficient engine than the V8. Been there done that to three decimal places.

jack vines

studegary
08-24-2011, 03:39 PM
Some European countries taxed cars based on their engine displacement. This may have been more of a reason for six cylinder Hawks than perceived fuel economy.

Chapuis
08-25-2011, 03:16 PM
French cars consume more taxes than gazoline...

Here Flight Hawk is 17 H.P taxable (Silver Hawk 1959, 170 c.i = 16 H.P, and Sky Hawk, Power Hawk or Silver Hawk V8 289 c.i = 27 H.P taxable...)

Chapuis
08-25-2011, 03:24 PM
My Flight Hawk consumes 13 to 14,5 l/100 km (80- 90 km/h)

Price of gazoline is 1,50 Euro /liter.

It's not a problem if you drive your Studebaker 5000 to 8000 kmm/an. If you want travel 50 000 km, take your small recent diesel which consume 5 l/100

ozarkman
08-25-2011, 08:15 PM
my grandpa has a 56 flight hawk. in southern missouri

Kevin's grandpa's Flight Hawk is one nice car! It has the rare dual carb and dual exhaust option! :-)

Here is a picture of our rebuilt 185 as it was going into our Flight Hawk.
http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/ozarklark/Flight%20Hawk/photo-1-1.jpg

We are getting 24mpg with the fresh engine, rebuilt trans, and overdrive.

JoeHall
08-25-2011, 09:28 PM
JV,
I was with you on your last post, till you mentioned three digits. I assume you meant speed in excess of 100 MPH? I didn't think a Stude flat six could propel anything that fast, unless it was pushed off a cliff :)
Joe H

PackardV8
08-25-2011, 09:56 PM
JV, I was with you on your last post, till you mentioned three digits. I assume you meant speed in excess of 100 MPH? I didn't think a Stude flat six could propel anything that fast, unless it was pushed off a cliffJoe, I ran that Flight Hawk flat out several times and never saw more than 95 MPH even on a slight downhill.

We are getting 24mpg with the fresh engine, rebuilt trans, and overdrive. Joe, I meant I had computed the fuel mileage to three decimal places and it was never, ever 24 MPG. Most times my Flight Hawk was getting 18-19 MPG at best, but I will admit my engine had worn valve guides. Your results may vary.

jack vines

jimmyg
09-30-2011, 09:00 AM
we have two 56 flight hawks here in Winona, Mn.....a white 56 coupe belonging to a another person & our 56g-k7 hardtop model that I bought in Canada last year. I can be reached at: bapajimbo@yahoo.com. It's kinda fun having one that's different from the rest!

GeorgeColvin
02-25-2012, 05:47 PM
If you have the time, there is a SDC Group "1956 Studebaker Flight Hawk" that tracks the remaining cars left in the world. If you know of others that would like to join, more the better.

ddub
02-25-2012, 06:53 PM
The production order on Ralph's hawk shows it was built Dec. of '56. Can that be right? Seems like the '57s would have been on line by then.

JoeHall
02-25-2012, 07:38 PM
The judges at a Studebaker car show told me they would be surprised if there were 100. He said that is because most people don't restore the Flight Hawk as it was a six cyl.

They make excellent donor cars for 56Js :)

StudeRich
02-25-2012, 10:19 PM
The production order on Ralph's hawk shows it was built Dec. of '56. Can that be right? Seems like the '57s would have been on line by then.

Most years production had to start by at least August to have a stock on hand to supply 2000 or so Dealers in the U.S. by mid Sept. and 1957 was not a facelift year either, Sedans had a fairly major change.

That does seem impossible, if it is a typo, they did it in 2 places. :confused: