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zeissmike
05-27-2007, 04:22 PM
I will be driving my 1964 Avanti R-1 to South Bend. It does not have seat belts. Where can I source black original seat belts that must have been an option in 1964. My Avanti is the one with 4500 original mileage and is in totaly original unmolested condition.

Michael

JDP
05-27-2007, 05:18 PM
Studebaker International sells the closest reproduction.

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

Swifster
05-27-2007, 05:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by zeissmike


I will be driving my 1964 Avanti R-1 to South Bend. It does not have seat belts. Where can I source black original seat belts that must have been an option in 1964. My Avanti is the one with 4500 original mileage and is in totaly original unmolested condition.

Michael


Micheal, let me preface my comments first by saying that seat belts are always an excellent idea for safety's sake. I'm a firm believer in them when ever possible.

As for driving the car to South Bend without them, you can legally do this as seat belts were not a federal requirement until January 1, 1965. All cars built before this date are exempt. Even cars built before this date that were built with seat belts are exempt. Just a FYI.

Again, having said all this, belts are always a good idea. Standard 2-point belts will only keep you from being thrown from the car. They will not keep you from kissing the steering wheel or windshield like a 3-point harness will. As far as I know, all judging organizations are not allowed to deduct for seat belts or a fire extinguisher.

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

Rerun
05-28-2007, 08:40 AM
Didn't front seat belts come standard the Avanti?

Jim Bradley
'64 Daytona HT "Rerun"
http://home.earthlink.net/~bradley71771/images/Rerun.jpg

63Avanti
05-31-2007, 12:33 PM
My NYC ordered '63 came with maroon belts. (original option according to a brochure I have a scanned copy around here somewhere)

I would NOT drive any car without a seat belt!!!
Looking at the Studebaker International catalog and the Web page, at the resolution available, they look like exact duplicates.

I have another seat belt question, which I will put up soon.[8D]


Terry, North Texas
1963 Avanti R2, 63SR1065
(in stage 1 resto "Project A")
http://sterkel.org/avanti
1985 Kubota L2202(Diesel)
2000 VW Jetta GLS
1999 Toyota rice burner

JBOYLE
05-31-2007, 01:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by hotwheels63r2

All '63 and '64 Studebaker cars I have ever seen here on the West Coast were ordered with optional front seat belts. (Governm't.?) Mandatory option, I believe.
MIKE


Agreed...mine has them (front only) listed on the build sheet.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

JDP
05-31-2007, 02:24 PM
They are close, but not exact. the factory belts had a recessed area for the decal, the repro's do not.

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

gord holden
06-01-2007, 11:18 AM
I have a front set original black nice shape 8 out of 10 recessed stude logo as JDP explained pictue available $200.00

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Swifster
06-01-2007, 02:30 PM
For those who need belts and have your original buckles, a company called Ssssnake Oyl Products can replace the webbing and rebuild your original buckles. Here's their website...

http://www.ssnake-oyl.com/

Just a note, these guys are not cheap. But they will allow you to reused the original buckle if you're looking for that 400 pt judging.

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

JDP
06-01-2007, 02:44 PM
They charged me $375 to do my 57 Golden Hawk belts and hardware. (front pair)

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

Swifster
06-01-2007, 02:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by JDP

They charged me $375 to do my 57 Golden Hawk belts and hardware. (front pair)


And the end result was.....[?]

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

N8N
06-01-2007, 06:21 PM
quite nice, as I recall.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

JBOYLE
06-01-2007, 06:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by Swifster

For those who need belts and have your original buckles, a company called Ssssnake Oyl Products can replace the webbing and rebuild your original buckles. Here's their website...
Tom - Valrico, FL


They have good products.
I use their web tie-down straps for my trailer and have some of their seat belts (hidden) in the Bearcat.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

JDP
06-01-2007, 07:04 PM
They show plated the buckles and hardware, and rewebbed the belts. They were way better then new, especially the chrome.

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander