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olds5556
05-26-2007, 09:09 AM
I'm working on a friends 64 studebaker champ pick-up with a 259 v-8. The cam on the distributer is wore down so a proper adjustment on the points is not possible. I was planning on putting in a pertronix point replacement set up since they work better than points and I wouldn't need to worry about the cam on the distributer anymore. My question is, is there another car that would interchange with the studebaker ? No one including the factory has a listing for ths engine to order the pertronix for. I'm hoping a more popular brand will interchange. I collect and restore 55 and 56 oldsmobiles and they are hard to get some parts for too. This 64 champ is even harder. Thanks, Don.

Chris Pile
05-26-2007, 09:40 AM
Since they didn't make 64's, I can understand the lack of parts. Perhaps you have an earlier year Champ?

Chris Pile
The Studebaker Special
Midway Chapter SDC

52-fan
05-26-2007, 10:05 AM
Chris,you must have thought he meant 1964 Champion because there were 1964 Champ pickups built. As for the electronic ignitions for 259s, they are available from Pertonix.

!952 Champion Starlight since October,1971. !962 Daytona
since May, 2007.

Alan
05-26-2007, 10:08 AM
Olds, You can use a press on reluctor for a Mopar Prestolite dist. V8, late 60's early 70's. Mopar had a retrofit kit for their electronic ignitions.

52-fan
05-26-2007, 10:38 AM
Watch out for the pins on the advance weights being worn. Those Prestolites are bad about that, but parts are available. Also check for bushing wear in the distributor body. The electronic conversion won't help a unit in need of a rebuild.

1952 Champion Starlight since October,1971. 1962 Daytona
since May, 2007.

Mark57
05-26-2007, 06:22 PM
There was also an ad in the May TW for a complete replacement electronic distributor as well - another option to consider.

53k
05-26-2007, 08:18 PM
quote:Originally posted by 52-fan

Chris,you must have thought he meant 1964 Champion because there were 1964 Champ pickups built. As for the electronic ignitions for 259s, they are available from Pertonix.

I was under the impression that Pertronix was only available for the dual-points Prestolite, not for the single as used in all non-R engined cars and trucks.


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Mark57
05-26-2007, 09:04 PM
If you go to the Pertronix web site, they list the following info for Stude V8's. I have copied the content from the 2007 catalogue for "Igniter I" part numbers.

Studebaker
1960-61 8 Lark & Regal ............Delco 1181
1965-66 8 All models ..............Delco 1181
All 8 All models ................. Prestolite 1584

Hope that helps.:)

StudeRich
05-27-2007, 03:04 AM
Sorry, Mark but it does not help, because they do not know what they are talking about! [xx(] The 1584 as Ted has said many times here, and I see in my Fairborn Studebaker Pertonics application list, is for the DUAL POINT Prestolite only. Best thing to do is get either the early Delco '56 to '59 Commander, President, Hawk or Lark distributor or the '60-'61 Lark Delco window Dist. and those both have Pertronics available and do not self destruct like the Prestolite! [:0]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

Mark57
05-27-2007, 07:52 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

Sorry, Mark but it does not help, because they do not know what they are talking about! [xx(] The 1584 as Ted has said many times here, and I see in my Fairborn Studebaker Pertonics application list, is for the DUAL POINT Prestolite only. Best thing to do is get either the early Delco '56 to '59 Commander, President, Hawk or Lark distributor or the '60-'61 Lark Delco window Dist. and those both have Pertronics available and do not self destruct like the Prestolite! [:0]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest

Thanks!:)
Ferndale, WA

Randy_G
05-27-2007, 09:21 PM
ok now I have new worry, I have a prestolite in my Lark. Is this thing going to crap the bed or as Studerich said "self-destruct"? I guess it will be a wait and see deal.

Randy_G
1959 Lark Sedan
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Roscomacaw
05-28-2007, 12:08 AM
Don,

I've got lots of the early style Delcos around here, I'd be happy to part with one for very little.;)

Miscreant adrift in
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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Mark57
05-28-2007, 01:33 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Randy_G

ok now I have new worry, I have a prestolite in my Lark. Is this thing going to crap the bed or as Studerich said "self-destruct"? I guess it will be a wait and see deal.

Gosh Randy, don't do that - you'll hex the thing for sure.[:0][8]

52-fan
05-28-2007, 11:33 AM
I hope these new guys aren't going to panic over the distributor issue. The Prestolite design is maybe not as durable as a Delco for extended use (50 years??), but it can be rebuilt just like any other. I have replaced the parts in Stude Prestolites with the more readily available Chrysler parts and gotten good service.Like any other mechanical part they will wear and like any other part they can be restored. Don't panic the parts are out there. Until you open yours up and check it out you don't even know what shape it is in.

1952 Champion Starlight since October,1971. 1962 Daytona
since May, 2007.

Mark57
05-28-2007, 10:22 PM
Has anyone had any experience with this product (as Pertronix is n/a for the Prestolite Dist.)[?]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/Dist1.jpg

From May TW.

John Ratliff
05-28-2007, 11:07 PM
So, how is a easy way to see if I have a Prestolite or an early Delco on a '56 Power Hawk? [?][?]
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

Sorry, Mark but it does not help, because they do not know what they are talking about! [xx(] The 1584 as Ted has said many times here, and I see in my Fairborn Studebaker Pertonics application list, is for the DUAL POINT Prestolite only. Best thing to do is get either the early Delco '56 to '59 Commander, President, Hawk or Lark distributor or the '60-'61 Lark Delco window Dist. and those both have Pertronics available and do not self destruct like the Prestolite! [:0]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA


John Ratliff
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Mark57
05-28-2007, 11:28 PM
John,
Subject to someone else jumping in and correcting me, I don't think Studebaker used "Prestolite" distributors in the 1950's (as stock items).

StudeRich
05-29-2007, 03:39 AM
John, if your Rotor is basically round but with a protruding "arm' going out with a round carbon "rod' on it going to the cap spark plug contacts, has a tall clip in the center top for coil input contact in cap, it is the correct 1956 Delco Dist. commonly known as the "early Delco".

It has NO tin door to lift for adjusting the points while running, like the '60-'61 Lark Delco "Window" Dist.

There is usually a oval red tag with Delco and a date code & model number on the side of the case. These were used on 1951 to 1959 (Larks) and to '61 on Hawks.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA


StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA