I tried submitting this to John Metzker via email, as recommended by a couple of Forum members, but I keep getting an error that he only accepts email from people on his safe list, and had to fill out a form to get on that list again. I've done this several times. So I'm posting here, and perhaps someone can shed light, or help in forwarding to John (I have been trying the trans-fixed (at) earthlink address):
I have a 1951 Studebaker Champion 4-door (Model 10G), VIN G1014691, 170 flathead six, with a DG-200 automatic transmission, believe the 74K miles showing is original. The governor linkage was missing when I got the car, with the rod from the accelerator to the tranny just dangling.
I bought the ball joint (Stude Part 527990) and the Control Shaft Lever bracket (Stude part 531415) that goes over the governor post, but it will not fit (insufficient room for the nut/bolt that goes into the bracket- there is a bump-out in the tranny case that does not leave enough room for the nut/bolt).
That bracket is what turns the vertical governor post when the accelerator is depressed, pulling the rod and ball joint forward.
In the 1951 Shop Manual, those are shown on Figures 0312-41 on Page 180 and Page 46.
In the Studebaker Automatic Drive Shop Manual, shown beginning on Page 25.
Checking the tranny markings closer, it shows:
Detroit Gear, Borg-Warner DG-200
Serial number HA-7650V
On the tail of the tranny: 11-17-53 on a metal tag, and stamped in are: 20-705, and below that, stamped
in, the numbers "11."
Is this a 1953 tranny, and would that be why the linkage won't fit? If so, can I try using the linkage off
a 1953 Champion? Or the existing rod and a 1953 bracket?
I've only test-driven the car short distances as I did other work to it. The transmission symptoms
are that it bogs down in Drive or Reverse, and that it won't pull up our semi-steep driveway in
reverse, neither will it back up onto my metal ramps (slipping?)
--The bogging down did improve a little after I had my vacuum advance and distributor rebuilt, but
still does run rough after a bit idling in Drive or Reverse. Idles nice in Park or Neutral.
I also suspect the tranny is newer because I don't see any evidence this one ever had an
Anti-Creep switch installed on the tail.
Shifts real nice from "first" to "second" but I've never felt it shift into "third" (understand
these are actually, Low, Intermediate, and Direct Drive). Highest speed I attained was about 50mph,
for a very short run (maybe 30 seconds driving).
When I got it, it had oil in it (apparently 10 weight) instead of tranny fluid. I drained the tranny and torque converter and replaced the oil with Type F fluid
Any advice would be appreciated.
Regards,
Clarence
cbonner757@gmail.com
I have a 1951 Studebaker Champion 4-door (Model 10G), VIN G1014691, 170 flathead six, with a DG-200 automatic transmission, believe the 74K miles showing is original. The governor linkage was missing when I got the car, with the rod from the accelerator to the tranny just dangling.
I bought the ball joint (Stude Part 527990) and the Control Shaft Lever bracket (Stude part 531415) that goes over the governor post, but it will not fit (insufficient room for the nut/bolt that goes into the bracket- there is a bump-out in the tranny case that does not leave enough room for the nut/bolt).
That bracket is what turns the vertical governor post when the accelerator is depressed, pulling the rod and ball joint forward.
In the 1951 Shop Manual, those are shown on Figures 0312-41 on Page 180 and Page 46.
In the Studebaker Automatic Drive Shop Manual, shown beginning on Page 25.
Checking the tranny markings closer, it shows:
Detroit Gear, Borg-Warner DG-200
Serial number HA-7650V
On the tail of the tranny: 11-17-53 on a metal tag, and stamped in are: 20-705, and below that, stamped
in, the numbers "11."
Is this a 1953 tranny, and would that be why the linkage won't fit? If so, can I try using the linkage off
a 1953 Champion? Or the existing rod and a 1953 bracket?
I've only test-driven the car short distances as I did other work to it. The transmission symptoms
are that it bogs down in Drive or Reverse, and that it won't pull up our semi-steep driveway in
reverse, neither will it back up onto my metal ramps (slipping?)
--The bogging down did improve a little after I had my vacuum advance and distributor rebuilt, but
still does run rough after a bit idling in Drive or Reverse. Idles nice in Park or Neutral.
I also suspect the tranny is newer because I don't see any evidence this one ever had an
Anti-Creep switch installed on the tail.
Shifts real nice from "first" to "second" but I've never felt it shift into "third" (understand
these are actually, Low, Intermediate, and Direct Drive). Highest speed I attained was about 50mph,
for a very short run (maybe 30 seconds driving).
When I got it, it had oil in it (apparently 10 weight) instead of tranny fluid. I drained the tranny and torque converter and replaced the oil with Type F fluid
Any advice would be appreciated.
Regards,
Clarence
cbonner757@gmail.com
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