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steve kuiper
05-17-2007, 09:10 PM
my top was running very slowly. so i added some brake fluid as what was in the resivoir smelled like brake fluid. i didn't add much as it was pretty full. top worked no better.i decided to drain system and refill. while draining notice redish color in extremely dirty ( and a little chunky) fluid. now question is... what type of fluid do converts use. car is a 1962 lark. i'm guessing fluid is original. do i need to purge system to avoid rubber parts swelling (if adding brake fluid was incorrect? i do not have a shop manual. nor do i have a owners manual. i've only had the car a couple of days.
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41 Frank
05-17-2007, 09:29 PM
Heavy duty brake fluid is what is supposed to be used, that's not to say previous owner might not have put transmision fluid or hydraulic fluid in it in the past.

Frank van Doorn
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1963 Daytona Conv
1941 Champion R-2 Rod

JDP
05-17-2007, 09:41 PM
When I replaced my pump, the vendor recommended using ATF, I did and it worked fine.

JDP/Maryland


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63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

rockne10
05-17-2007, 09:42 PM
Sounds like a shop manual would be a good investment. Hard copy would be $48 or, you could get it on CD-ROM for $24.95 and it would include the chassis and body catalog.

JDP
05-17-2007, 10:13 PM
The factory did use brake fluid.

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

N8N
05-17-2007, 10:26 PM
sounds like a good flush of whatever is in there might not be a bad idea. Careful of the paint in the trunk though, if it is brake fluid it will lift the paint fairly quickly. (this is why a lot of people convert to ATF)

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steve kuiper
05-18-2007, 08:21 AM
thanks for the input. i think i'll try to convert to atf. i was somewhat concerned it might swell the hoses(like when oil is accidentally put in a brake system). but my brother has done it on his coverts and it appears others have without incident. i will fill and flush then fill again.

John Kirchhoff
05-18-2007, 05:16 PM
As far as oil swelling rubber brake parts, that will happen but SOMETIMES that's not so bad after all. I had a slow leak on the master cylinder of my Dodge truck and one time grabbed an oil jug I'd put brake fluid in. If wasn't until after I poured it in did I realize it contained old brake fluid I'd dumped in on top of the oil dregs. Ends up the oil swelled the seals and I didn't have to add fluid for a year and a half as opposed to once a month. Like one old guy told me, "Even a blind sow gets an acorn once in a while!"

mbstude
05-18-2007, 05:30 PM
quote:As far as oil swelling rubber brake parts, that will happen but SOMETIMES that's not so bad after all. I had a slow leak on the master cylinder of my Dodge truck and one time grabbed an oil jug I'd put brake fluid in. If wasn't until after I poured it in did I realize it contained old brake fluid I'd dumped in on top of the oil dregs. Ends up the oil swelled the seals and I didn't have to add fluid for a year and a half as opposed to once a month. Like one old guy told me, "Even a blind sow gets an acorn once in a while!"

Very true! Brake fluid does swell up leaky seals. My grandad's old work truck ('85 Dodge 3/4 ton 4x4 with 318, 4 speed) has had more brake fluid poured into the engine than oil. :D 275K miles and still going strong without anything major ever being done to the engine or trans. [^]
It works pretty well for Studes too. :)

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lstude
05-20-2007, 08:55 AM
This might be a stupid question, but where do you put the fluid?
My convertible top has become very slow going up.

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53k
05-20-2007, 09:01 AM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

This might be a stupid question, but where do you put the fluid?
My convertible top has become very slow going up.

Take out the back seat. There is a cylindrical reservoir with the pump. You will see a plug (or cap) on the reservoir. You probably should try to get a sample of what is in the system. It could be barke fluid or atf depending on what has been done to it in the past. Be careful not to overfill the tank. It sticks in my mind that you need to leave some air space in the tank.


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lstude
05-20-2007, 09:11 AM
Thanks Paul. I will check it today.

JDP
05-20-2007, 10:30 AM
I don't recall having to pull the back seat, are you to old crawl in the trunk ?:):):) BTW, I have a NOS kit for $40 if anyone need it.

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

lstude
05-20-2007, 11:09 AM
quote: I don't recall having to pull the back seat, are you to old crawl in the trunk ? BTW, I have a NOS kit for $40 if anyone need it.

JDP/Maryland

Yes, I am too old :D , but mainly I have too much crap in the trunk from going to all these Studebaker Meets. I tried to crawl in there yesterday without crushing all the stuff in the trunk. I pulled the cover back and saw the pump but didn't see any place to fill the reservoir.

What does the kit consist of?