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showbizkid
02-04-2011, 08:42 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2466/3802631598_518a0e476a_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/82542673@N00/3802631598/)
1955 Studebaker Commander (http://www.flickr.com/photos/82542673@N00/3802631598/) by the kestrel kid (http://www.flickr.com/people/82542673@N00/), on Flickr

Poster IDs the location as the Mukilteo lighthouse in Mukilteo, Washington.

BobPalma
02-04-2011, 08:53 AM
Interesting, Clark. That appears to be a 1955 Commander Custom to which someone added the 1954 side stainless strip. 'Nothing wrong with that; it looks much nicer than the huge flying wedge on the higher-line 1955 Commander 2-doors. BP

Skinnys Garage
02-04-2011, 09:28 AM
They also lost the "back doors" found on 2-door sedans. That mod would probably be on my list of things to do also.:cool:

FlatheadGeo
02-04-2011, 09:58 AM
Looks nice in that color, too!!!

showbizkid
02-04-2011, 11:11 AM
They also lost the "back doors" found on 2-door sedans. That mod would probably be on my list of things to do also.:cool:

Yes, I was noticing the seam had been filled. Something the factory ought to have done, IMHO :)

StudeRich
02-04-2011, 12:45 PM
I wonder if it really is a Commander, I don't see anything that would give us a clue, except the large Tires, and that does not mean they belong there. :confused:

StudeDave57
02-04-2011, 03:07 PM
Having grown up less then ten miles from there-- it's very refreshing to see that lighthouse!!! So many memories (good and bad) come back to me. I can't think of too many ways to make it any better. Then again~ Boeing's Everett plant at Paine Field is just up the hill from there~ adding a BIG new Boeing, or one of the DreamLifters in the sky above might do it... :confused: :p :)


I wonder if it really is a Commander, I don't see anything that would give us a clue, except the large Tires, and that does not mean they belong there. :confused:
Give Craig time to see this thread. Being a 'Can-AM Zone' car,
I'm sure he's seen it and shot it somewhere once... ;) :rolleyes: :D

clonelark
02-05-2011, 04:20 AM
I was gonna say
Looks more like a 54 with a 55 front clip, But then i noticed the wrap around windshield and the 55 tail lights.
Then i got out my 54 Brochure and it only had the the wide stainless on on 4 doors, the two doors only had the thin strip that starts behind the indention on earlier cars (53-55 sedans)
Very interesting car indeed. But also very nice.

Here are some pics of sedans, i have found None with that chrome strip. Looks like he used a 4dr strip at the rear, and a front door strip of a 4 door up front.

http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/

http://i51.tinypic.com/2itsyyu.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/3356xix.jpg

55champion
02-05-2011, 05:27 AM
Looks like my '55 Champion 2 door Sedan with 4 door trim.

JRoberts
02-05-2011, 05:49 AM
They also lost the "back doors" found on 2-door sedans. That mod would probably be on my list of things to do also.:cool:

I agree that doing away wih that seam makes the ines much cleaner. I really like this car, including the color. I guess it is just different enough to make me happy.

r1lark
02-05-2011, 06:27 AM
Interesting, Clark. That appears to be a 1955 Commander Custom to which someone added the 1954 side stainless strip. 'Nothing wrong with that; it looks much nicer than the huge flying wedge on the higher-line 1955 Commander 2-doors. BP

I'm with Bob. This looks like someone installed the AC-2635 Stainless Moulding Kit for F-bodies. The wide stainless moulding came out in '54, but Studebaker offered AC kits, apparently to 'upgrade' the lower models. These kits are listed in the parts books for '53 and '54. The AC-2635 kit is for the '53/'54 2-door sedan, and the illustration in the parts book looks exactly like what is on the '55 in the picture. Right off, I can't think of a reason why this kit wouldn't work on the '55 once the big 'flying wedge' chrome thingie is removed.

Skinnys Garage
02-05-2011, 10:16 AM
Here's a '54 Commander wagon that passed through my hands many years ago. It seems to have the stainless in question, along with other '54 wagons I've seen.

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu37/mytoygarage/c6d81efc.jpg

showbizkid
02-05-2011, 11:35 AM
Were you taking that wagon down to the river to drown it, Skinny? ;)

Skinnys Garage
02-05-2011, 11:59 AM
Were you taking that wagon down to the river to drown it, Skinny? ;)No, it's a situation you're probably not familiar with Clark......the Spring thaw!:cool:

2moredoors
02-05-2011, 12:31 PM
They also lost the "back doors" found on 2-door sedans. That mod would probably be on my list of things to do also.:cool:

If you look at the following web page http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/project/1955_2.htm it shows a number of images of '55 Studebakers. The two door Commander shown does not appear to have "back doors". It is also void the stainless side trim, however all the other cars shown with side trim have the trim up higher on the car. My President 4 door has the same colour scheme but does not have the wide side walls.

r1lark
02-05-2011, 01:08 PM
Here's an example of what several posters are talking about as far as the 'back door look' on the '53 thru '55 F-bodies. It's much more apparent on a direct side view. Also, the factory ads and brochures may have tried to 'downplay' the 'back door' look with airbrushing:
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff46/r1skytop/53Sedan2-door.jpg

Skinnys Garage
02-05-2011, 01:19 PM
If you look at the following web page http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/project/1955_2.htm it shows a number of images of '55 Studebakers. The two door Commander shown does not appear to have "back doors".I checked it out and while hard to see, I can see the panel gap faintly in the pic. There's an example of a Studebaker brochure pic with the panel air brushed out in this thread.
http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?27996-Rear-doors

2moredoors
02-05-2011, 02:27 PM
I checked it out and while hard to see, I can see the panel gap faintly in the pic. There's an example of a Studebaker brochure pic with the panel air brushed out in this thread.
http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?27996-Rear-doors

Well I looked at the picture you referred to and there is certainly a panel gap. I couldn't see the gap on the site that I originally referred to however sometimes I don't "spot the Studebakers", so you are probably correct and there too could be some air brushing.

55cmndr
03-30-2011, 04:04 PM
Glad you guys like my 1955 Studebaker Commander, body style 16G8F2, a Commander Custom 2 door sedan.
The Commander Custom was a (plain Jane model) with no trim from the factory.
It has the 259 V8 and 3 sped transmission with overdrive.

Yes it is a Studebaker, and the tires are correct.
The owner’s manual says the standard was 6.70 – 15. I opted for the optional size of 7.10-15, this is the size used for the President models.The Commander scripting will be on very soon.
I have been to a lot of shows, zone meets and overdrives as well.My wife posted this picture, and the lighthouse is next to the Washington state ferry dock- Mukilteo to Clinton run.

The car was assembled in Vernon, California, and its destination was Marks Motors in Portland, Oregon.
I found that in the February 1994 edition of Turning Wheels, only 1413 of the custom 2 door sedans (16G8F1 and 16G8F2) models were built for the entire 1955 model year.

1. Here is the breakdown- of the production figures from Turning Wheels

This includes the first 1/2 and the 2nd of the entire 1955 model year. (16G8F1 to 16G8F2)

• South Bend -------1,212 (606 early and 606 late)
• Los Angeles ---------170 (85 early and 85 late)
• Canada ---------------- 28 (14 early and 14 late)

• Exported ----------------- 3 not sure which part of the year so, I am not including the exports—

Total = 1410 (705 early and 705 late)

2. Here is the information from the production order:

• Description- 16G8F2 / Movie
• Trim- IC-233 / 8283
• Order date written - 7/22/1955
• Sales order # 8019
• Factory order # X10202
• Serial # 8848238
• Body # 460
• Ignition key # H6894
• Trunk Key # - S-1560
• Final Assembly Date- 8/12/1955
• Engine# VL-5347
• No region code
• No date shipped information or shipper
• No Date to ship or ship via
• No item
• No quantity
• No Inst book or line #
• AC-2700 - Directional Signals
• AC-2715 –Climatizer
• Overdrive
• Electric wipers
• HC Cyl. HD
• Gear ratio 3.73
• All of numbers match, the original 259 V-8 in is in the vehicle, it has 122,000 on it, and the # X10202 is visible on the firewall.

I talked to Andrew Beckman, who is the Archivist at the Studebaker National Museum in South Bend, Indiana. I was curious about the production date, how close it was to the end of the 55 model year, the word - “Movie”- the # X10202 on the firewall, and the trim.

• “The term “Movie” he said is a telegraph code word that refers to a specific model of car; in this case a 1955 Commander Club Sedan which is another term for a two-door sedan (F-body).option.”
• He mentioned to me that with my production date, it is most likely that the 1955 model year most likely only continued on for another few weeks until the end of August.
• The X10202 number is the factory order number, an internal system used to track orders of specific cars. These were assigned sequentially to the order on the assembly line.
• It’s entirely possible that the dealer or a previous owner updated the trim on the car, but I can’t say for sure what/when actually happened.

3. As to the trim on the car--

I have pictures of it from the 4th owner, before he started the work on the body. He received it that way from the 3rd owner who is a member of the SDC Seattle chapter. I can only assume that it was there when the 2nd owner from Portland owned it. I wish I knew he was to get more information on the car.
We met a number of years ago, and at that time he was a member of an SDC chapter, I believe in Oregon.

It does look like a combination of different trims though, and I have been going through the body parts book but can’t pin it down to what I have.
Does anyone have an idea what the trim code# on my production order stands for? I have seen on the web, other 55 16G8F2 cars and some don’t have the hood ornament,was that an option?

Sorry for the lengthy thread, I just wanted to clarify as to what i know about the car.
If anyone can help with this information, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the comments on the car.

55Cmndr -

showbizkid
03-31-2011, 11:57 PM
That's very cool! Thanks for the great post!