naked '64 rear

[BRUCESTUDE]

The paint job on my '64 Daytona continues, here's a shot of the inside left rear quarter panel. There was a little surface scaly rust along the edges, but not bad. I slopped some POR 15 on after wire wheeling.

[silverhawk]

I remember when the '62 of my dad's was like that; what a great day it was to reinstall them! Started to look like a car again

[silverhawk]

BTW, what are you using to seal those surfaces? Looks like POR, but not at the same time....

[woodysrods]

Can't stay quiet on this one! POR 15 is NOT the product that you should be using.
It seems most amature restorations seem to have one thing in common these days....POR 15 applied with a brush over non properly prepared surfaces.
I really don't want to upset anyone (But I am sure someone will be). But if you are going to go to the trouble of removing quarters, doors, fenders, & even bodies off the frame. Then don't waste your time with a wire wheel, a brush and POR 15. Unless you really don't care to keep the car and you are just trying to make it look better for your eBay pictures. DO IT RIGHT! It doesn't cost much more and if your time is worth anything, it probably costs LESS!
Good Luck
&
Good Roads
Brian

[StudeRich]

Are you going to tell us what YOU would use? What would you use, chem etch Primer!

[KJongenburger]

I can tell what I used on my French and English cars. These cars are made of the worst (1970's) stuff they dared to sell as steel. It already starts to rust in the brochure so I had to replace large parts of the body and weld these parts to the rest of the rusty bits.

The parts I did not replace I blasted at low pressure to prevent dis-forming the curves, then I painted the old and new parts with two layers of Sikkens (a Euro paint brand) two component primer. This I covered with two layers of the paint and sealed it of with Caprotech RX10, an underbody protection. Hereafter I sprayed the parts that remain in view in the proper colour.

It works fine. Never seen any rust after that.

My new 1950 commander is my first car that does not require extensive body work, only a lot of paint. A new experience for me.

[8E45E]

Are you going to tell us what YOU would use? What would you use, chem etch Primer!

I admire Brian for taking a stand on that issue. I won't mask rust with POR-15, either. I sandblast to raw steel and then cover with etch primer such as DP-40 or DP-90 on a chassis.

Craig

[woodysrods]

See I didn't have to say how it SHOULD be done! Craig has hit the nail on the head!
In our shop we blast everything, it is the best money you can spend. Then DP90 or other quaulity etch epoxy primer or a good rockguard on the blasted underbelly sheet metal parts with 2 to 3 coats of industrial epoxy applied over the rockguard. Makes it very durable and washable. Will last another 50 or more years easily!
Please remember that Epoxy paint has no UV protection and should ony be used on areas not exposed to direct sunlight or it will start to break down and chalk up in a couple of years.
Good Roads
Brian

[BRUCESTUDE]

Some of us don't have nor can afford blasting equipment.

[Tom Bredehoft]

My CASO method was to use a 3 1/2" wire cup on a 90 deg. grinder, remove everything down to bare but once rusted metal. After a while my coveralls felt like cactus with the little wires, but it sure takes off the rust and crud. Then I'd wash it with lacquer thinner to remove oil residue. Then I'd apply the POR 15. I'm more satisfied with that than anything I could have paid for locally.

[52-fan]

So now I am confused. Are you saying that the POR15 does not stop rust or bond as they claim?

[studefan]

Bruce, I thought that was my 64 HT for a second. Mine looked this way about a year ago. Keep up the good progress and keep us posted. Jeff

[silverhawk]

This could be a pretty interesting discussion! My 2 cents is this: I LOVE blasting and starting over; but on some things it's best NOT to do that. Such as a customers Mercedes that he doesn't want to have to pull all apart to fix a hole in the firewall. The POR has worked great for a year plus so far. Other items I have used and tested it on ONLY IF USED CORRECTLY; it works quite well I am also only 17 though, so I won't argue with people with more experiance

[DEEPNHOCK]

That is a good point.
Many of us cannot afford to outsource this type of repair, or preventative maintenance.
So that leaves a gap.
We all want to do a 400 point restoration.
But we have to do the best we can with what we have to work with.
Taking shortcuts that cut the service life of the product (Stude's in this instance) because we can't afford the tool or product is a poor excuse.
If things are that bad, then maybe a restoration should not be started.
Better to drive it and enjoy it...while it lasts.
Sort of like saying you never change the oil because a drain pan cost's too much.
Somewhere, the investment to do the job right must be made...Or the result will suffer.
No easy answer here..
The comments above are all good, but the one thing that really wasn't said (so far) was to READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.
POR15 is not cheap.
They are pretty stringent in their application instructions.
Sure, there are better methods and products than POR15.
But POR15 gives you a good result for the bang for the buck.
I will continue to use it, in the proper places, with the proper application methods.

Some of us don't have nor can afford blasting equipment.

[JRoberts]

Thanks for those comments, Jeff. I use POR15 and do not understand what the probelm with it is. It does stop rust and from what I've seen prevents it as well. I know it can be deadly if sprayed incorrectly. I have always brushed it on and it comes out very smooth. Yes, you do have to following the directions.