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Studebaker Wheel
11-11-2010, 03:02 AM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/avantipctravelersinnemail.jpg?t=1289465460

I have been collecting Studebaker post cards for over 30 years and have a few thousand (I'm guessing here).
Of course I have most of the original Studebaker advertising cards going back to the Electrics and the horsedrawn era. Another slightly less popular variety is the street scenes i.e. Studebakers caught in the act of being themselves! In some cases these are even more interesting than the factory cards. In any event it is somewhat unusual to find a typical street scene (or in this case a roadside scene) with an Avanti. This with the turquoise Avanti was taken of the Travelers Inn in Eagle River, Wisconsin sometime in the mid 1960s. I just bought it off an Ebay auction (of course the seller had no idea of the significance of the unusual car sitting under the sign). Anyone have a turquoise Avanti that hails from that general neighborhood?

Bill Pressler
11-11-2010, 04:23 AM
Richard, I'd say that's an Avanti II. The front wheel opening looks smaller than what I think Studebaker Avantis had--a giveaway of an Avanti II.

There is a '67 full-size Buick in that postcard, so it's at least from fall of '66.

Interesting shot and neat-looking place as well!

Bob Andrews
11-11-2010, 05:12 AM
Love those roadside pictures. They should be in my postcard thread.

Retired
11-11-2010, 08:33 AM
The front wheel opening looks odd. The pirate's belt buckle emblem on the C piller is barley visible. Studebakers had an S, early Avanti II had a solid black insert. There is no front fender Avanti II side marker so my guess, Studebaker.

fstst56
11-11-2010, 09:06 AM
I don't know that Studebaker Wheel was asking if it was a Studebaker or a II. In any case, it is a II. Side marker lights on the front fenders would not have been attached until '68. Front wheel well tells us it's a II.

Bill Pressler
11-11-2010, 10:14 AM
Richard didn't specifically ask, but placing the photo at '64 says he thought it was a Studebaker. As with Bob Andrews' photos, it's a great photo, regardless.

mbstude
11-11-2010, 10:53 AM
Jim McCuan's 10K mile Turquoise Avanti is from Minnesota. The Avanti in the post card is obviously from out of town considering it's at a Hotel.

Hey Jim, there's your car. :)

Colgate Studebaker
11-11-2010, 11:05 AM
Richard, my brothers 63 has been in the Milwaukee area since about 66 or 67, and it is possible to have been in the Eagle River area on several occasions. I'm having lunch with him this p.m. and will question the possibilities. B.V.

JBOYLE
11-11-2010, 11:33 AM
Just wondering...

Would many Avanti IIs have been painted turquoise?
I would think that by 66 (the first production IIs, IIRC) the color had lost some favor, at least compared to Studebaker days.
Of course, I'm sure N&A had lots of leftover paint...

Any thoughts on the issue?

8E45E
11-11-2010, 11:53 AM
Just wondering...

Would many Avanti IIs have been painted turquoise?
I would think that by 66 (the first production IIs, IIRC) the color had lost some favor, at least compared to Studebaker days.
Of course, I'm sure N&A had lots of leftover paint...

Any thoughts on the issue?

Those original Avanti colors would have become 'core' colors for the Avanti II, with other shades being a special order item. They were exclusive to the Avanti in the first place, and would be readily available from the paint supplier. I believe a turquoise one was featured in early Avanti II advertising.

Craig

Gunslinger
11-11-2010, 12:13 PM
I think it's a very early Avanti II. The car looks to sit level...no rake.

Studebaker Wheel
11-11-2010, 12:21 PM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/avantipctravelersinncloseup-1.jpg?t=1289499218

Thanks for all the input and speculation. Actually I had not given any thought to it being an Avanti II. It could very well be but my knowledge of such minutiae on the "late model" stuff is pretty meager so I will go with whatever gets the most votes! If it is a II that would be even more scarce since by the mid '60's there would have been far fewer of those on the roads than the original versions. Another possibility is that it belonged to the owner (or manager) of the Inn since it was parked right out front!? Anyone's guess.

fstst56
11-11-2010, 01:16 PM
My guess would be that it was a wealthy customer there to have Sunday lunch, not to stay at the Motel, thus it could be a local resident.

studegary
11-11-2010, 02:29 PM
My guess is 1965-1967 Avanti II. It would be one of 157 cars. It is unusual with no right side mirror and with wheelcovers.

The owner or manager of a business should not park right in front taking up customer spots for a business where people come and go regularly. Probably commonly done now, but not so common 45 years ago, specially in a smaller town.

jlmccuan
11-11-2010, 02:51 PM
I don't see the curb feelers that my car sported, Matt. I'm going with '67 II with the fender fillers in and no side markers. Sure wish it had turned out to be mine, though.

studegary
11-11-2010, 03:06 PM
Is that fairly near where Brooks Stevens was located or on the route to South Bend from Stevens' home? Maybe it belonged to Brooks Stevens, someone in his family or someone from Avanti Motors was paying a visit to Brooks Stevens.

8E45E
11-11-2010, 03:14 PM
Is that fairly near where Brooks Stevens was located or on the route to South Bend from Stevens' home? Maybe it belonged to Brooks Stevens, someone in his family or someone from Avanti Motors was paying a visit to Brooks Stevens.

Now that would be interesting!! Brooks Stevens and Raymond Loewy were competing for all the future contracts at Studebaker that never materialzed. Would Brooks Stevens own a vehicle designed by his competitor? Or did someone from Avanti Motors actually have business to do with Brooks Stevens & Asscociates? As far as I know, once Studebaker made the decision to discontinue car production, the Stevens contract was over and done with, to the point of him 'liberating' his three styling studies the company had no further use for. Not to mention, by then, he had his own creation (Excalibur) in production which he would be showing off to the world.

Craig

Bill Pressler
11-11-2010, 03:21 PM
I seem to remember reading that Fred Bartz sold Avanti II's at some point. I wonder how close that town is to Manitowoc (I'll check when I'm done, ahem "working"!).

j.byrd
11-11-2010, 04:09 PM
I'll just ask what folks used to ask us about our 63 Avanti, "what is that, a Jaguar or something"? Ha !!

Colgate Studebaker
11-11-2010, 10:35 PM
Well I had lunch with my brother and hear is a little more info. The prior owner of his Avanti was long time member Jack Kandler, who bought the car from the original owner when the car was around a year old. Jack is no longer with us, so we can't ask him, but my brother says it is possible that Jack could have had it up there, as he did drive it everywhere, and did also go "up north" to that general area. As for it being a Stude or II, that's for more knowledgeable people than me. Something else to consider. Idon't believe there is any connection to Brookes Stevens as I am quite sure his base was in the Milwaukee area and Eagle River is way "up north". That's all,B.V.

Retired
11-12-2010, 08:57 AM
Didn't N&A Avantis wheel covers have the area between the spokes painted black? I believe SI sells black vinyl inserts as a wheel cover restoration item for the early Avanti II's

Gunslinger
11-12-2010, 09:39 AM
I've seen wheel covers with the area between the spokes painted black, but there doesn't seem to be any consistency on what era Avanti they're on. I've seen Studes with them as well. Of course, they could have been added to a car at any time after manufacture. In fact, I've only seen wheel covers on Avanti II's only rarely...most seem to have Magnum 500 or wire spoke wheels or aftermarket custom wheels. It only seems to be early Avanti II's that have original style wheel covers...at least that's what I've noticed.