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Rob
07-19-2010, 05:41 PM
Bought this 50` starlite coupe for 250.00 bucks. It only has 1 problem, no motor or bell housing. The 3 speed trans was there , but the rest is long gone. So I am searching for a complete 169 motor with the bell housing and all the parts inside the bell housing. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

55champion
07-19-2010, 05:43 PM
Nice find, hope you have good luck with your build.

Nelsen Motorsports
07-19-2010, 05:59 PM
WHAT A STEAL! Good luck finding the parts and I hope you have it on the road soon.

jclary
07-19-2010, 06:02 PM
Looks like you have good potential. You did not say if the transmission you have is an overdrive. If it is not...look for a complete set up including an overdrive. Good luck and make sure to join your local chapter of the SDC. Attend as many functions as you can and make sure to buy the shop, body, and chassis manuals for your car. Be patient while looking. As is already being discussed in another thread, there might just be some hot-rodder getting rid of a complete drive train that will slip right in your car. Best of luck to you.

sweetolbob
07-19-2010, 06:03 PM
Wish I could help but a neat car at a great price. Please keep posting as you build the coupe.

Bob

studeclunker
07-19-2010, 06:15 PM
Well, it might be a '50... then again, it might be a '51. I thought all of the '50s had a split windshield. Then again, maybe this was replaced with a one-piece '50 style? Nice find at an even nicer price!:D Hopefully, you can find the proper flathead six for this. All the best.

StudeRich
07-19-2010, 06:15 PM
Here you go Rob, this would be a start (engine only), if only you can find someone going from Calgary, CANADA to Kentucky!

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?42789-Flathead-6-and-manual-Trany-for-sale

The car is definitely a 1950 Champion Starlight Coupe.

rockne10
07-19-2010, 06:18 PM
'50 Starlights and convertibles had one-piece windshields.

I know there are plenty of those Champion flatheads out there. For the most part, people have trouble giving them away.
Someone here may step to the plate but, realize your post here will reach a very small portion of the Studebaker community.
Network with your local SDC chapter and place a want ad in TURNING WHEELS. That will reach nearly 13,000 of the true believers.

BobPalma
07-19-2010, 06:23 PM
Well, it might be a '50... then again, it might be a '51. I thought all of the '50s had a split windshield. Then again, maybe this was replaced with a one-piece '50 style? Nice find at an even nicer price!:D Hopefully, you can find the proper flathead six for this. All the best.

Ron: All the Convertibles and Starlight Coupes had a one-piece windshield beginning with the "first-by-far with a postwar car" models in 1947. BP

jclary
07-19-2010, 06:31 PM
And another thing...while you are looking for the power plant, why not take the opportunity to look that front suspension over real good. (I may be telling you something you already know, so please forgive me) That is a one year only assembly and certain parts are getting scarce. While you are doing that, you should consider taking the front dog house off the car and check out the condition of the sheet metal between the fender and where they bolt to the front pillar post of the car. That will also give you an opportunity to clean up and repair any rusty metal around the fender air vents and air ducts. Don't get discouraged by the tasks. One bolt leads to another. Just get you a good radio station with your favorite music going and enjoy the work.

Chris_Dresbach
07-19-2010, 06:32 PM
Well, it might be a '50... then again, it might be a '51. I thought all of the '50s had a split windshield. Then again, maybe this was replaced with a one-piece '50 style? Nice find at an even nicer price!:D Hopefully, you can find the proper flathead six for this. All the best.

It's a '50. The best way to tell a '50 from a '51 is by looking at the front grilles and bullet nose.

1950:
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/50front.jpg

1951:
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/0907_07_z1950-1951_studebaker_bulle.jpg

50Champ
07-19-2010, 07:02 PM
make sure to join your local chapter of the SDC.

What part of Kentucky are you in? If you're in the Louisville area you're SOL as far as a local chapter goes. Good luck with the resto....

Welcome
07-19-2010, 07:30 PM
>>>If you're in the Louisville area you're SOL as far as a local chapter goes.<<<

What ,,,what ,,,did someone just volunteer to help start a new SOL (South of Louisville) Chapter ???;)

jclary
07-19-2010, 07:33 PM
What part of Kentucky are you in? If you're in the Louisville area you're SOL as far as a local chapter goes. Good luck with the resto....

Look, by local chapter, I mean your State or "Nearest" chapter.:) I know there are not SDC chapters on every corner like Wal-Mart, or Dollar General Stores. In fact, it is after all a "Hobby." And members of a hobby group have real lives to live and their levels of commitment have to be tempered by that. However, there are members nearly everywhere and if you can get together with a few, you'll be surprised at what you can learn. My reason for encouraging members to get together is so they can "get in the loop" so to speak and understand that there are resources, knowledge, and encouragement that they can avail themselves to. It would be nice if we had a slew of "Jay Leno" style shops where we could all get together, help each other work on our cars, share war stories over your choice of beverages and have a perpetual "car enthusiasts frat party!" However, if a place like that ever existed, I am afraid that it would soon disintegrate into a big opinion brawl, law suits, divorces and even a few wives charged with murder!:mad: For me...I think I will stick to the forum, my back yard, and occasionally pay a visit to a "local chapter" member just to pester him and see if he has anything lying around I could use.:cool:

bison
07-19-2010, 08:01 PM
John
Well said !! although My side is aching from laughing

wolfie
07-19-2010, 08:02 PM
Was this car a local find or did it come out of SW VA? I have the clutch and bellhousing parts you need. I also have the remains of a 1951 6 cylinder that will need a total rebuild. It sat outside with no head on it so I assume rebore, pistons etc.. but it would be cheap. I am in SC. Steve

pushrod63
07-19-2010, 08:11 PM
I also have the bell housing with internals. I don't have an engine, but I do have a head.

50Champ
07-19-2010, 08:19 PM
Look, by local chapter, I mean your State or "Nearest" chapter.:)

I don't consider a 2 1/2 to 3 hour drive to Indianapolis to be "local" especially when driving it in a 60 year old car at 55-60 mph. Do you?

Rob
07-19-2010, 08:25 PM
Yes it is an overdrive trans. The car was about 11 miles from my house. The lady that had it said it set in the shed for 40 yrs covered with a blanket.The body is solid only surface rust. The trunk and floor pans and spare tire well are perfect( just surface rust). The interior is awesome, headliner, seats, and door panels have noholes or rips. i`ll take some more pics. and get them posted tomorrow.

jclary
07-19-2010, 08:25 PM
I don't consider a 2 1/2 to 3 hour drive to Indianapolis to be "local" especially when driving it in a 60 year old car at 55-60 mph. Do you?

Just did it in my truck last month...on an interstate...100 degree temperature! And I am 10 years older than the truck! Where's your sense of adventure?

jclary
07-19-2010, 08:36 PM
Yes it is an overdrive trans. The car was about 11 miles from my house. The lady that had it said it set in the shed for 40 yrs covered with a blanket.The body is solid only surface rust. The trunk and floor pans and spare tire well are perfect( just surface rust). The interior is awesome, headliner, seats, and door panels have noholes or rips. i`ll take some more pics. and get them posted tomorrow.
Hey Rob!
Looks like you landed a catch way ahead of what a lot of us had to start with. Since you have saved yourself tons of money already...why not just call up Cathcart's engine shop and buy one of his super duper souped up flathead champion engines with all the money you saved buying the car?:cool:

woodysrods
07-19-2010, 11:27 PM
Another perfect candidate for a drive train update! SB Chev and drive the wheels off of it.
Good Roads
Brian

studeski
07-20-2010, 08:12 AM
got one w/trans

mbstude
07-20-2010, 09:44 AM
I have a friend in Atlanta with a rebuilt Champion engine for sale.

Rob
07-20-2010, 04:39 PM
A few more pics.

Rob
07-20-2010, 04:40 PM
Heres the trunk pan pic.

Bullet
07-20-2010, 05:54 PM
Very nice. It is a C3 or a C5 Starlight, as there is more chrome on it than my c1 has. Very nice starting point. Keep us posted with pictures.

Mark

Johnnywiffer
07-21-2010, 07:52 AM
Ron: All the Convertibles and Starlight Coupes had a one-piece windshield beginning with the "first-by-far with a postwar car" models in 1947. BP

AND LAND CRUISERS, Bob. ;) This one looks faintly familiar...oops, it's mine!

2063

John

Rob
07-22-2010, 06:35 PM
The tag on the firewall says 9G-C5
7606


On the champions does the vin # start with G? Mine is very hard to see and I`m not sure if it is or not.

whacker
07-22-2010, 08:55 PM
WoodysRods, If this is a 50 Champion, you will have one hell of a time getting a SBC into it! It's been done, but it ain't easy. The best swap I've seen was a 4.3L six. Short enough to fit and plenty of power.

50Champ
07-22-2010, 09:25 PM
On the champions does the vin # start with G? Mine is very hard to see and I`m not sure if it is or not.

Yes, it's a G, but they didn't call it a VIN back then they called it a serial number. Here's what mine looks like.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1188/4526177/20234971/328462843.jpg

What part of Kentucky are you in?

Rob
07-22-2010, 10:00 PM
I live Casey County. I thought it looked like a G. I know my 1951 Commander starts with a number.

50Champ
07-23-2010, 02:18 PM
The tag on the firewall says 9G-C5 - 7606

My tag has 9G-F3 - 38819. I think the 9G designates a Champion but I'm not sure what the rest of it means....