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skyway
04-07-2007, 04:23 PM
Hi Gang,

Can anyone give me a hand with 3 flat head Champ engine numbers?

They are: IR118949, SH316, and 5354?

The first two numbers are hand stamped on the boss at the drivers side front of the block, as usual. What I've typed as "I" and "11" may be either letters or numerals.

The last number is different. On that engine the usual boss is completely blank, and there is a rivited sheet metal plate just below the boss, that has "5354", and goes on to specify that this is the number to be used to order parts for this engine. Its possible that there is a fifth digit where I show a question mark-the paint is chipped off at that point so that I cannot tell.

These numbers do not seem to be in my 1959-64 shop manual. The last one may have come out of an R 1/2 ton truck. The others, no idea.

Thank you. Gary

Roscomacaw
04-07-2007, 05:09 PM
That first number (and even tho it IS an "I", it represents a "1") is from a 2R series truck, The 2nd number doesn't make sense unless that's really 11 instead of an "H" after the S - IF that's the case it would be from a 59 car.
That last thing is some sorta reconditioned engine or replacement block. The numbers mean nothing to Studebaker system of serializing engines.:)

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Dwain G.
04-07-2007, 06:13 PM
The IR engine came from a 1949-53 pickup. Since serial and engine numbers ran consecutively without a yearly break I can only make a guess that it's about a '52 or '53.
I have no information on an SH number. Could it be anything else?
The last one is a factory replacement engine. The full part number is 535435, and it's a 185. When the 185 was created from the 170 in 1955, the 170 was dropped. The factory replacements for earlier vehicles were given separate part numbers and were shipped with a 'kit' of parts to fit the particular application.

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skyway
04-08-2007, 07:52 PM
Thank you Bob and Dwain. That second "SH" number was awful hard to read, so yes Bob, it could easily be "S11". I'll look more closely if I get to see it again. Dwain, do I understand that 535435 is a part number for a replacement 185, and that the blank boss means it was a brand new engine and not factory reconditioned? Thanks again.

Dwain G.
04-08-2007, 10:44 PM
quote:Originally posted by skyway

Thank you Bob and Dwain. That second "SH" number was awful hard to read, so yes Bob, it could easily be "S11". I'll look more closely if I get to see it again. Dwain, do I understand that 535435 is a part number for a replacement 185, and that the blank boss means it was a brand new engine and not factory reconditioned? Thanks again.

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That is exactly right! Studebaker didn't normally sell reconditioned engines, although I think they did some during periods of material shortages, i.e. wartime.

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DilloCrafter
04-09-2007, 12:43 AM
skyway,

Just remember: Don't say "Champ" unless you are referring to the 60-64 light truck (T-Cab). Those flathead sixes should be referred to as "Champion" motors. :)

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