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woodysrods
06-28-2010, 10:32 PM
So I need to know more. How many of these did the build? 1957 "Silver Hawk Hardtop" c/w 259 cid.
????????????????????????
Tell me what you know.
Good Roads
Brian

doug
06-29-2010, 01:13 AM
Fred Fox in Turning Wheels indicated no U.S. produced 259 K-3, Canada and export a total of 248.

8E45E
06-29-2010, 02:18 AM
Were you looking at Geoff Gogle's 57-K3 last weekend and it sparked your interest? He is the only one I know of in your area with one. I know of his, and one other '57. Here are photos I took of them.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2315279073_7d336b189c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2316088314_c226f0533b_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4745325114_2c9b6f11c1_b.jpg

Craig

kmul221
06-29-2010, 09:42 AM
Ther was a guy at a Waterford Ontario car show a few years back who claimed he had a 58 Silver Hawk H/T in decent condition,never seen the car & lost his phone #.If there was such an animale it has to be super rare.Can't recall if it was a 6 or 8 cyl'

studegary
06-29-2010, 08:50 PM
1957 Silver Hawk hardtop (K body) - 120 six cylinder and 248 259 V8.
1958 Silver hawk hardtop (K body) - 56 259 V8.

woodysrods
06-30-2010, 02:07 AM
Were you looking at Geoff Gogle's 57-K3 last weekend and it sparked your interest? He is the only one I know of in your area with one. I know of his, and one other '57. Here are photos I took of them.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2315279073_7d336b189c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2316088314_c226f0533b_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4745325114_2c9b6f11c1_b.jpg

Craig
Yes I was talking with Geoff on Saturday at the Peach City Beach Cruise. I have seen his car a few times, and his claim is that it is only one of "three" made????
Good Roads
Brian

jwikstro
06-30-2010, 01:40 PM
There are more Silver Hawk HT:s around the world, but not as god looking as Geoffs. Art Unger wrote an artikel: Mid-50s Hardtop Hawks in Turning Wheels August 2005. Here are a link to some other pics.
http://cid-bff18339c7e025f2.photos.live.com/play.aspx/Silver%20Hawk%20HT?Bsrc=EMSHOO&Bpub=SN.Notifications

8E45E
06-30-2010, 01:46 PM
There are more around the world, but not as god looking as Geoffs. Art Unger wrote an artikel Mid-50s Hardtop Hawks in Turning Wheels August 2005. Here are some other pics.

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pdV-OIyQje474bHdfkaiPnlgbHPf-ca8uNLTNHQLx6Z8JLKhKfgM7kP4lyV8lj0wasyBV7e4EE3b9_OFzVYje0A/1957_silverhawk_SE.jpg?psid=1

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pPDJ55r5u3wbhjeGS47Ylg_rWK8kITy5ghpqCX0aMs_Ew7jrTFyj7hPGyW4gii3mIlGOE-ZxOhrJHPg5Ed1xGnA/1957_silverhawk_SE2.jpg?psid=1

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pPDJ55r5u3wY9YB_pblmSPxjrxnwjhrmjldv_nxA-9Hv_TuEIoYXf2kaCazG6wENRZMtTmx8cVjhXQSOGqljlEw/eBay1.jpg?psid=1

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p3YYCftQoWw6dR9h-OzQaksrngdmQTI00DPO6T78fiJHfsKjPOmB-KTTS2e81fibAmBdmYlyI0GHL6K4PSJj66g/Chilestud.jpg?psid=1

There is also a gold one in France that appeared in a recent issue of 'AutoRetro'. And a very rough one was for sale in Ontario that was advertised in 'Old Autos' a couple of years ago, not to mention the one currently being restored in Nova Scotia. Betwteen your pics and the ones I know of, that makes nine so far...

Craig

woodysrods
07-01-2010, 12:20 AM
Is it just the fact that they came with 259's in them or are the really different in any other way?
Brian

Michael
07-01-2010, 06:22 AM
I have a few photos of some other Silver Hawk hardtops.
Here's one...

Michael Bostedt

Michael
07-01-2010, 06:25 AM
Here are a few more...

Michael Bostedt
Sweden

Michael
07-01-2010, 06:27 AM
And here's the one from Old Autos...

Michael Bostedt
Sweden

52-fan
07-01-2010, 09:15 AM
I guess that I had forgotten that there was a K body Silver Hawk. How can you tell without seeing the emblem or looking under the hood?

Jerry Forrester
07-01-2010, 07:38 PM
Long straight side molding that runs from the headlight to the taillight.

Johnnywiffer
07-02-2010, 08:13 AM
And of course, there is my previously-owned Sky Hawk that I've posted on the Forum several times.

.1548

The give-away being that the stainless didn't line up. It had been in an accident and I pursuaded the repair shop to include the '57-'58 stuff.

John

studegary
07-02-2010, 03:19 PM
Is it just the fact that they came with 259's in them or are the really different in any other way?
Brian

They are K bodies (hardtop), not C bodies (coupe), as most 1957 Hawks were.

studegary
07-02-2010, 03:21 PM
I guess that I had forgotten that there was a K body Silver Hawk. How can you tell without seeing the emblem or looking under the hood?

They are a K body (hardtop), not a C body (coupe), like most 1957 Silver Hawks.

woodysrods
07-03-2010, 12:25 PM
Besides the K in the body tag, was there any other # or letter on the tag to tell you tis was a Silver Hawk not a Golden Hawk?
Brian

studegary
07-03-2010, 03:49 PM
Besides the K in the body tag, was there any other # or letter on the tag to tell you tis was a Silver Hawk not a Golden Hawk?
Brian

Yes, a 1957 Silver Hawk hardtop is a 57B-K and a 1957 Golden Hawk is a 57H-K.

EDIT: This answer relates to the 259 V8 Silver Hawk hardtop (vs. a Golden Hawk). A 1957 Silver Hawk hardtop with a six cylinder engine would be a 57G-K.

Jim B PEI
07-03-2010, 04:18 PM
And here's the one from Old Autos...

Michael Bostedt
Sweden

Ah, Marmora! Lovely little village. That car would be one in Roy Graham's collection. Roy has a lot of interesting cars, from hulks to really decent ones. I love his 47? (or is it 49?) Commander convertible, and his "very special order by a very particular lady" 66. He has come through for me, rebuilding my 63 Wagonaire's overdrive transmission, and steering parts. He has been a vendor of Stude parts for some time. Marmora is also the village where I picked up my 57 overdrive Canadian built Champion last year, from someone who was NOT Roy (he has one of the highest percentage of Studebakers in Ontario)

Jim B PEI
07-03-2010, 04:47 PM
Is it just the fact that they came with 259's in them or are the really different in any other way?
Brian

The Hardtop K3 also came with flathead 6 cylinder in 1957 and 1958. The one in NS was a 6, I believe, still available for the Canadian Market, and overseas where there were punitive taxes on V8s. The K3 Hardtop was unique in that it was NOT available in the US, where only the top of the line Hardtop K7 (Golden Hawk) was available in 57 and 58, and the K9 Hardtop (Packard Hawk) in 58, and K7 and K9 were only available with the Supercharged 289. In the US If you wanted a Hawk with a 6 or a 259/289 un-supercharged, you got a C3 Silver Hawk pillared Coupe in 57 and 58.

For 59-61, only the C6 pillared Hawk was produced (6 and V8), and 62-64, only the K6 hardtop Hawk was produced (6 and V8). I forget when the 6 ceased to be available in Canada as well as the US. Likely 1959, as all 60 Hamilton Hawks were 289 only.

woodysrods
07-04-2010, 12:39 PM
Thanks Jim & Gary
I think my question has been answered and I am straight on this now! Production #'s would be the next thing I would love to know, but I do realize they are probably very low from the history already provide on this thread.
Thanks Again!
Brian

studegary
07-04-2010, 02:20 PM
Thanks Jim & Gary
I think my question has been answered and I am straight on this now! Production #'s would be the next thing I would love to know, but I do realize they are probably very low from the history already provide on this thread.
Thanks Again!
Brian

Look down the thread. I gave the production number breakdown on June 29th (our 47th anniversary).

woodysrods
07-04-2010, 09:30 PM
1957 Silver Hawk hardtop (K body) - 120 six cylinder and 248 259 V8.
1958 Silver hawk hardtop (K body) - 56 259 V8.
Thanks again Gary. That is what I was looking for when I started the thread, but I missed the numbers the first time I read it??
Good Roads
Brian