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starlightchamp
04-04-2007, 10:22 PM
I read in a past thread that the the wheel rims are different , front to back on
a disk brake equipped Studebaker. My 63 Hawk owners manual shows a tire swap front to back and makes no mention of a difference. Also. I don't see any change in depth.
What had been said, is that the front rims were more dished to accomodate the disk
pads. I'd like to do a rotation but waited to clear this up first. My car has factory disk brakes.
Thanks.
...Dick

1950 Champion Starlight
1963 Hawk GT
Santa Barbara
CA
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sbca96
04-05-2007, 03:24 PM
Yah .. the difference is between disc brake cars and non-disc brake
cars. On a car with factory disc brakes all 4 will be disc brake
wheels (unless someone changed them since). The disc brake wheels
had more room inside to clear the caliper.

In other words DONT try bolting your '50 Starlight wheels on the '63!

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

starlightchamp
04-05-2007, 05:02 PM
Ok...That explains it. Thank you both for clearing up my confusion.
BTW , Tom, even someone as dumb as me would have trouble putting the four
stud 50 rims on the five stud 63 Hawk. Have to cut one off and....
...Dick

sbca96
04-05-2007, 05:22 PM
The '50 only has 4 stud hubs??? I didnt know that! Sorry, my mistake.[:I]

Tom

StudeRich
04-05-2007, 06:01 PM
Tom; Champions do have 4 lug, Commanders 5. In 1951 they wisely went to common wheels on all cars: 5 on 4 1/2" centers with 5 inch by 15" until 1957. 1958 and on is when things get a bit weird, with 14 in. in '58 except Scotsman and special orders, then 4 1/2 in.wide after that except Avanti which has 5 in. wide. :)

Then for '63-'64 there's those (2) different brands: Kelsey-Hayes with the extra "hump" just outside of the hubcap hump, and the nicer looking Budd wheel used for Disc. One with a little more clearance and the (ugly,it figures, it's a GM division!) K/H with the most! :(

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

Studebakerboy
04-11-2007, 07:48 AM
Rich:

Any reason why they choose to go to 14 inch wheels for 57 and 58? I wonder if it was an industry wide thing such as quad headlights for 58. Is that all models to include trucks?

Kevin Edwards

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StudeRich
04-11-2007, 12:14 PM
Kevin; you are right, it was just a fad/trend it was done to give the cars the long low profile, to go along with the new flat roof in '58. If you read my post again you will see it says '58 only. No, of course they would never try to mess with the look of the Trucks, Studebaker Truck Div. had $0 dollars to play with styling, they built the trucks to HAUL things in those days, not to look nice in the super market parking lot or to haul 10 LBS. of groceries! The 1/2 Tons came std. with 15 in. with 16 in. option and 3/4 tons had 16in. trucks need ground clearance for farm use etc. there is no reason to lower a real truck! [:0][^]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

dictator27
04-11-2007, 12:19 PM
It was 58 only for 14 in. wheels. The only reason I can think of is it made the cars look longer because thely sat lower to the ground. IMHO though, the wheels are out of proportion to the car. It looks like they are sitting on roller skates.

Terry

skyway
04-11-2007, 01:02 PM
I always thought the best part of the 14" wheels in 1958 was those GREAT looking full wheel covers (the ones that look kinda slotted). Those alone make it worth your while to run 14's if you can still find 14" radials big enough to look right.

StudeRich
04-11-2007, 05:15 PM
Sorry, there ARE no slotted looking '58 Wheelcovers! The only 14" ones they made were the Studebaker AC-2900 and the Packard that's it!

I think you thinking of the AC-2799 spoked looking (Golden Hawk) optional '57 wheelcover that was like all '57's- 15 inch. not 14 ". [:0]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

skyway
04-12-2007, 06:25 PM
Don't know about no AC numbers, but I do know that I did intend to be praising plain ole, garden variety, 1958 Studebaker full wheel covers.