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Dick Steinkamp
04-01-2007, 07:11 PM
I finished installing all the exterior trim today...except for the emblems on the doors and C pillar.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/442797591_6261a3107c.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/442797575_f5743e49ac.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/174/442797533_76911fb0cf.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/199/442797597_6c4bbfd153.jpg

I'll start putting the glass back in tomorrow.

I'll be installing new carpet this week. Anybody have any hints for me? Looks tough to get all the holes in the right places.



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lstude
04-01-2007, 07:17 PM
Talk about jewelry…that is 18 carat!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
04-01-2007, 07:17 PM
Talk about jewelry…that is 18 carat!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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arkiejazz
04-01-2007, 07:22 PM
:)

steve blake
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arkiejazz
04-01-2007, 07:22 PM
:)

steve blake
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Randy_G
04-01-2007, 07:23 PM
sure is purdy...:)

Randy_G
South Bend or Bust 2007!
God I miss chrome on cars.
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Randy_G
04-01-2007, 07:23 PM
sure is purdy...:)

Randy_G
South Bend or Bust 2007!
God I miss chrome on cars.
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52hawk
04-01-2007, 07:26 PM
It's a GOLDEN HAWK!!![:p]

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
04-01-2007, 07:26 PM
It's a GOLDEN HAWK!!![:p]

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

Swifster
04-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Dick, the car is absolutely beautiful. Your hard work has really paid off and you should be extremely proud.

:)

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

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Swifster
04-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Dick, the car is absolutely beautiful. Your hard work has really paid off and you should be extremely proud.

:)

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

studegary
04-02-2007, 02:25 PM
Also, except for the emblem on the grille. Be sure to put the door chevrons on correctly and use the correct ones. 1963 and 1964 are different and the right door ones go on in the opposite order ('63: RWB & '64 BWR).

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
04-02-2007, 02:25 PM
Also, except for the emblem on the grille. Be sure to put the door chevrons on correctly and use the correct ones. 1963 and 1964 are different and the right door ones go on in the opposite order ('63: RWB & '64 BWR).

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

N8N
04-02-2007, 02:32 PM
Dick,

for the carpet, I would just take a single edged razor blade and cut "X"s in the carpet where the pedals, etc. come up through so that you can lay the carpet down. Then when it is exactly in place, mark with chalk where the holes need to be opened up so they look neat and trim to fit. The "X"s will disappear when it is laid down; just brush the chalk off with your hand when you're done. You will need a little grommet for the dimmer switch, but all the new carpet sets I've installed have come with the grommet.

You'll need lots of razor blades, as cutting the carpet will dull them quickly, and hacking at the carpet with a dull razor blade is a good way to get frustrated and/or hurt yourself.

good luck,

nate

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N8N
04-02-2007, 02:32 PM
Dick,

for the carpet, I would just take a single edged razor blade and cut "X"s in the carpet where the pedals, etc. come up through so that you can lay the carpet down. Then when it is exactly in place, mark with chalk where the holes need to be opened up so they look neat and trim to fit. The "X"s will disappear when it is laid down; just brush the chalk off with your hand when you're done. You will need a little grommet for the dimmer switch, but all the new carpet sets I've installed have come with the grommet.

You'll need lots of razor blades, as cutting the carpet will dull them quickly, and hacking at the carpet with a dull razor blade is a good way to get frustrated and/or hurt yourself.

good luck,

nate

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Dick Steinkamp
04-02-2007, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the tip, Gary. I'll make sure they go on that way.

Thanks for the pointers, Nate. Still looks like a chore :(.

I took out the old carpet today. This is what I found...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/444236955_ff9d8386f2.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/444236951_2d9274899e.jpg

I know there is probably some 44 year car out there with better floors, but I haven't seen it yet :D.

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-02-2007, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the tip, Gary. I'll make sure they go on that way.

Thanks for the pointers, Nate. Still looks like a chore :(.

I took out the old carpet today. This is what I found...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/444236955_ff9d8386f2.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/444236951_2d9274899e.jpg

I know there is probably some 44 year car out there with better floors, but I haven't seen it yet :D.

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

bradnree
04-02-2007, 08:25 PM
I'm ready to take delivery of your old black car.:)...:).......Brad

bradnree
04-02-2007, 08:25 PM
I'm ready to take delivery of your old black car.:)...:).......Brad

Swifster
04-02-2007, 08:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by bradnree

I'm ready to take delivery of your old black car.:)...:).......Brad


Sorry Brad. There's a line...:D

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

Swifster
04-02-2007, 08:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by bradnree

I'm ready to take delivery of your old black car.:)...:).......Brad


Sorry Brad. There's a line...:D

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

lstude
04-02-2007, 08:30 PM
You ought to leave the carpets off. It would be like a Ripley's Believe It Or Not!

lstude
04-02-2007, 08:30 PM
You ought to leave the carpets off. It would be like a Ripley's Believe It Or Not!

stude freak
04-02-2007, 08:50 PM
I dont think my 92 pick em up has floors that nice.

David Baggett Mantachie,Ms.

stude freak
04-02-2007, 08:50 PM
I dont think my 92 pick em up has floors that nice.

David Baggett Mantachie,Ms.

dictator27
04-02-2007, 09:45 PM
Dick
I was looking at that good ol' white on blue BC plate and thinking its a good thing that your Hawk isn't a 60 or 61. As I mentioned to you previously, BC changed plates every year at that time and for a while particular colours were used for two years, but reversed for the second year. In 1960 some bright spark(?) in the Ministry of Transport decided the colours should be pink and maroon![xx(][:0] Somehow I can't see a plate with a pink background and maroon letters or for that matter maroon background with pink letter on your car. Yes, they actually did that! Our family car at time was pale green and the plate mounted on the trunk lid(not a Stude). Talk about a colour clash!?[xx(][V]

Terry
27 Dictator sedan
54 Commander Starliner

dictator27
04-02-2007, 09:45 PM
Dick
I was looking at that good ol' white on blue BC plate and thinking its a good thing that your Hawk isn't a 60 or 61. As I mentioned to you previously, BC changed plates every year at that time and for a while particular colours were used for two years, but reversed for the second year. In 1960 some bright spark(?) in the Ministry of Transport decided the colours should be pink and maroon![xx(][:0] Somehow I can't see a plate with a pink background and maroon letters or for that matter maroon background with pink letter on your car. Yes, they actually did that! Our family car at time was pale green and the plate mounted on the trunk lid(not a Stude). Talk about a colour clash!?[xx(][V]

Terry
27 Dictator sedan
54 Commander Starliner

monomaniac
04-02-2007, 09:48 PM
I, for one, am getting pretty sick of this. I think he's altering all the pictures in photoshop.

monomaniac
04-02-2007, 09:48 PM
I, for one, am getting pretty sick of this. I think he's altering all the pictures in photoshop.

Dick Steinkamp
04-02-2007, 09:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by dictator27
In 1960 some bright spark(?) in the Ministry of Transport decided the colours should be pink and maroon![xx(][:0]

[xx(]




I've got a set of NOS '63 California plates...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/444409144_d328382476_o.jpg

Color match is better, but all the meaning and history is lost. I'll stick with the baby blue BC one. [^]

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-02-2007, 09:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by dictator27
In 1960 some bright spark(?) in the Ministry of Transport decided the colours should be pink and maroon![xx(][:0]

[xx(]




I've got a set of NOS '63 California plates...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/444409144_d328382476_o.jpg

Color match is better, but all the meaning and history is lost. I'll stick with the baby blue BC one. [^]

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

52hawk
04-02-2007, 10:02 PM
Yeah monomaniac,you're right,there is no Hawk with a floor like that.These pics belong next to the pics of the 65 Packard.[8D]

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
04-02-2007, 10:02 PM
Yeah monomaniac,you're right,there is no Hawk with a floor like that.These pics belong next to the pics of the 65 Packard.[8D]

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

JDP
04-02-2007, 10:50 PM
There might be nicer floors, but not in the 400-500 Studebaker that I've gone through, just amazing.

64 Commander-64 Daytona
64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert-63
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
04-02-2007, 10:50 PM
There might be nicer floors, but not in the 400-500 Studebaker that I've gone through, just amazing.

64 Commander-64 Daytona
64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert-63
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
04-02-2007, 10:52 PM
There might be nicer floors, but not in the 400-500 Studebakers that I've gone through, just amazing. Save that picture for your ebay listing, it'll be a deal maker.:)

64 Commander-64 Daytona
64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert-63
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
04-02-2007, 10:52 PM
There might be nicer floors, but not in the 400-500 Studebakers that I've gone through, just amazing. Save that picture for your ebay listing, it'll be a deal maker.:)

64 Commander-64 Daytona
64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert-63
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
04-02-2007, 10:53 PM
There might be nicer floors, but not in the 400-500 Studebaker that I've gone through, just amazing. Save that picture for your ebay listing, it'll be a deal maker.:)

64 Commander-64 Daytona
64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert-63
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
04-02-2007, 10:53 PM
There might be nicer floors, but not in the 400-500 Studebaker that I've gone through, just amazing. Save that picture for your ebay listing, it'll be a deal maker.:)

64 Commander-64 Daytona
64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert-63
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
04-02-2007, 11:02 PM
Sorry for the double post, would not let me trash one. ( Maybe because I'm logged in at a casino in Laughlin. )

64 Commander-64 Daytona
64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert-63
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
04-02-2007, 11:02 PM
Sorry for the double post, would not let me trash one. ( Maybe because I'm logged in at a casino in Laughlin. )

64 Commander-64 Daytona
64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert-63
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

8E45E
04-03-2007, 10:26 AM
[quote]Originally posted by 52hawk

Yeah monomaniac,you're right,there is no Hawk with a floor like that.

That's because this car was assembled here in CANADA!!! The workers even paid attention to the areas of the car you don't see, like painting the floor entirely!!:D

Craig.

8E45E
04-03-2007, 10:26 AM
[quote]Originally posted by 52hawk

Yeah monomaniac,you're right,there is no Hawk with a floor like that.

That's because this car was assembled here in CANADA!!! The workers even paid attention to the areas of the car you don't see, like painting the floor entirely!!:D

Craig.

StudeRich
04-03-2007, 10:30 AM
WHAT? you're STILL there JDP? You mean you have not lost the money from the '64 Commander 2dr. YET? Man, you better raise your bets!! :D:D

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
04-03-2007, 10:30 AM
WHAT? you're STILL there JDP? You mean you have not lost the money from the '64 Commander 2dr. YET? Man, you better raise your bets!! :D:D

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

JDP
04-03-2007, 12:19 PM
No, haven't lost that yet, but I have paid for about half the Avanti playing single deck blackjack.

64 Commander-64 Daytona
64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert-63
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
04-03-2007, 12:19 PM
No, haven't lost that yet, but I have paid for about half the Avanti playing single deck blackjack.

64 Commander-64 Daytona
64 GT R2 clone-63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert-63
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

Chucks Stude
04-03-2007, 12:24 PM
I thought that I was viewing colored assembly line photos of a hawk. The 63 GT that I owned in 1972 did not have that quality of floors. Those actually shine....... The ones on my current 62 GT are concrete color......

Chucks Stude
04-03-2007, 12:24 PM
I thought that I was viewing colored assembly line photos of a hawk. The 63 GT that I owned in 1972 did not have that quality of floors. Those actually shine....... The ones on my current 62 GT are concrete color......

8E45E
04-03-2007, 01:05 PM
Those actually shine....... The ones on my current 62 GT are concrete color......
[/quote]

Are you saying your legroom increased substantially since it left the factory in 1962?:D

Craig

8E45E
04-03-2007, 01:05 PM
Those actually shine....... The ones on my current 62 GT are concrete color......
[/quote]

Are you saying your legroom increased substantially since it left the factory in 1962?:D

Craig

Dick Steinkamp
04-03-2007, 01:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E
That's because this car was assembled here in CANADA!!!


There might be something to that. They only built about 360 '63 Hawks in Hamilton...maybe 2 a day or so. Could be they took extra care with them...at least we could start that rumor [}:)] :D

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-03-2007, 01:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E
That's because this car was assembled here in CANADA!!!


There might be something to that. They only built about 360 '63 Hawks in Hamilton...maybe 2 a day or so. Could be they took extra care with them...at least we could start that rumor [}:)] :D

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

studegary
04-03-2007, 03:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

Thanks for the tip, Gary. I'll make sure they go on that way.



After my comment, I got to thinking. I am not sure that Canadian built cars for the Canadian market had red/white/blue chevrons. Probably some Canadian or someone that has researched '63 Hawks can give the definitive answer. What I previously stated would be correct for a USA built Hawk and what most people would expect on a Hawk.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
04-03-2007, 03:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

Thanks for the tip, Gary. I'll make sure they go on that way.



After my comment, I got to thinking. I am not sure that Canadian built cars for the Canadian market had red/white/blue chevrons. Probably some Canadian or someone that has researched '63 Hawks can give the definitive answer. What I previously stated would be correct for a USA built Hawk and what most people would expect on a Hawk.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

N8N
04-03-2007, 03:20 PM
single deck blackjack? how does that work? i'd think with some mental exercises you could train yourself to count cards with only one deck to play with...

nate

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N8N
04-03-2007, 03:20 PM
single deck blackjack? how does that work? i'd think with some mental exercises you could train yourself to count cards with only one deck to play with...

nate

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Chucks Stude
04-03-2007, 03:40 PM
Again Studebaker was ahead of its time. Everyone now is touting their adjustable pedals, mine has an adjustable floor ! Slowly but surely, it will get better. I would post a picture, but you guys would consider it pornography.

Chucks Stude
04-03-2007, 03:40 PM
Again Studebaker was ahead of its time. Everyone now is touting their adjustable pedals, mine has an adjustable floor ! Slowly but surely, it will get better. I would post a picture, but you guys would consider it pornography.

8E45E
04-03-2007, 03:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by studegary

[quote]Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

Thanks for the tip, Gary. I'll make sure they go on that way.



After my comment, I got to thinking. I am not sure that Canadian built cars for the Canadian market had red/white/blue chevrons. Probably some Canadian or someone that has researched '63 Hawks can give the definitive answer.

Yep, they most certainly did. Unlike the trunk emblems, the door chevrons is something I definitely remember well about '63 & '64 G.T. Hawks.

Craig.

8E45E
04-03-2007, 03:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by studegary

[quote]Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

Thanks for the tip, Gary. I'll make sure they go on that way.



After my comment, I got to thinking. I am not sure that Canadian built cars for the Canadian market had red/white/blue chevrons. Probably some Canadian or someone that has researched '63 Hawks can give the definitive answer.

Yep, they most certainly did. Unlike the trunk emblems, the door chevrons is something I definitely remember well about '63 & '64 G.T. Hawks.

Craig.

8E45E
04-03-2007, 04:03 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Chucks Stude

Again Studebaker was ahead of its time. Everyone now is touting their adjustable pedals, mine has an adjustable floor ! Slowly but surely, it will get better.

I bet it will take a bit more than a touch of a button on the dash to adjust!![:p]

8E45E
04-03-2007, 04:03 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Chucks Stude

Again Studebaker was ahead of its time. Everyone now is touting their adjustable pedals, mine has an adjustable floor ! Slowly but surely, it will get better.

I bet it will take a bit more than a touch of a button on the dash to adjust!![:p]

lstude
04-03-2007, 04:59 PM
quote:Yep, they most certainly did. Unlike the trunk emblems, the door chevrons is something I definitely remember well about '63 & '64 G.T. Hawks.

Craig.

At least you didn't get totally confused like the guy did with this 63 Hawk on eBay.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/63GTHawkredrear.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
04-03-2007, 04:59 PM
quote:Yep, they most certainly did. Unlike the trunk emblems, the door chevrons is something I definitely remember well about '63 & '64 G.T. Hawks.

Craig.

At least you didn't get totally confused like the guy did with this 63 Hawk on eBay.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/63GTHawkredrear.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

Chucks Stude
04-03-2007, 05:16 PM
It doesn't have discs, but I have thick heals and I can drag them, for extra stopping power.

Wow, that back end is a mess. Trying to find a good back panel is getting tough. Como se dice in Espanol.... "reproduction"?

Chucks Stude
04-03-2007, 05:16 PM
It doesn't have discs, but I have thick heals and I can drag them, for extra stopping power.

Wow, that back end is a mess. Trying to find a good back panel is getting tough. Como se dice in Espanol.... "reproduction"?

studee64
04-03-2007, 06:52 PM
Hi Dick

Yours are absolutely the best original floors I have ever seen...

Attached is the 64 I found last year, which had been sitting in a warehouse for at least 6 years, and while the interior sheet metal had been painted, the floors where a gold mine to find in this condition...I can't claim that they were original, but they were still something to behold, as is yours for sure...

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k107/studee64/DSCF4598.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k107/studee64/DSCF4590.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k107/studee64/DSCF4591.jpg

Barry

Barry Leppan
Burlington, Ont. Canada
64 Daytona HT 5-spd
64 GT Hawk R-1/AC/Powershift

studee64
04-03-2007, 06:52 PM
Hi Dick

Yours are absolutely the best original floors I have ever seen...

Attached is the 64 I found last year, which had been sitting in a warehouse for at least 6 years, and while the interior sheet metal had been painted, the floors where a gold mine to find in this condition...I can't claim that they were original, but they were still something to behold, as is yours for sure...

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k107/studee64/DSCF4598.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k107/studee64/DSCF4590.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k107/studee64/DSCF4591.jpg

Barry

Barry Leppan
Burlington, Ont. Canada
64 Daytona HT 5-spd
64 GT Hawk R-1/AC/Powershift

N8N
04-03-2007, 07:15 PM
Barry,

those floors look like they have been repaired with CE patch panels - I can tell because IIRC the original floor plans continued the stiffening ribs through the bend where they turn up into the firewall. However, I sure wouldn't mind meeting the guy that put them in, as it looks like he did a hell of a job!

nate

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N8N
04-03-2007, 07:15 PM
Barry,

those floors look like they have been repaired with CE patch panels - I can tell because IIRC the original floor plans continued the stiffening ribs through the bend where they turn up into the firewall. However, I sure wouldn't mind meeting the guy that put them in, as it looks like he did a hell of a job!

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

studee64
04-03-2007, 07:31 PM
Thanks Nate

Again, the knowledge of you and many other forum members is fantastic..and it does look good, even if not original..

Barry

Barry Leppan
Burlington, Ont. Canada
64 Daytona HT 5-spd
64 GT Hawk R-1/AC/Powershift

studee64
04-03-2007, 07:31 PM
Thanks Nate

Again, the knowledge of you and many other forum members is fantastic..and it does look good, even if not original..

Barry

Barry Leppan
Burlington, Ont. Canada
64 Daytona HT 5-spd
64 GT Hawk R-1/AC/Powershift

Randy_G
04-03-2007, 07:58 PM
I wish my floors looked half as good.

Randy_G

www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com
http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/sedan4small.jpg

Randy_G
04-03-2007, 07:58 PM
I wish my floors looked half as good.

Randy_G

www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com
http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/sedan4small.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-03-2007, 08:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by studee64
and it does look good, even if not original..



They look fantastic, Barry! Original or repaired, if they look like yours, who cares (and who can tell).

In real estate, three things are important...location, location, and location.

With Studes three things are important...rust, rust and rust. Everything else is truly secondary.



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-03-2007, 08:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by studee64
and it does look good, even if not original..



They look fantastic, Barry! Original or repaired, if they look like yours, who cares (and who can tell).

In real estate, three things are important...location, location, and location.

With Studes three things are important...rust, rust and rust. Everything else is truly secondary.



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Guido
04-03-2007, 08:42 PM
Dick,

This makes me want to pull the carpet up on my original '62 GT that came out of Bakersfield, CA. The underside looks great (the leaking rear seal helped with that) and I am curious about the top.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
04-03-2007, 08:42 PM
Dick,

This makes me want to pull the carpet up on my original '62 GT that came out of Bakersfield, CA. The underside looks great (the leaking rear seal helped with that) and I am curious about the top.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

lstude
04-03-2007, 08:42 PM
Since you guys are comparing floors, I will post the floors on my 52 Commander. They don't look beautiful like those Hawk floors but they are not bad for a 55 year old car that lived in Iowa and Minnesota!

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52Commanderfloor004.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52Commanderfloor003.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
04-03-2007, 08:42 PM
Since you guys are comparing floors, I will post the floors on my 52 Commander. They don't look beautiful like those Hawk floors but they are not bad for a 55 year old car that lived in Iowa and Minnesota!

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52Commanderfloor004.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52Commanderfloor003.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

bondobilly
04-03-2007, 08:59 PM
That floor is to die for. Look what I started with.

http://bondobilly.com/fl1.jpg

bondobilly
04-03-2007, 08:59 PM
That floor is to die for. Look what I started with.

http://bondobilly.com/fl1.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-03-2007, 09:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by bondobilly

That floor is to die for. Look what I started with.


I wouldn't have started :D


http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-03-2007, 09:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by bondobilly

That floor is to die for. Look what I started with.


I wouldn't have started :D


http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

StudeRich
04-03-2007, 09:17 PM
WOW, that '52 looks GREAT Leonard! Thats something you do not see on 1953-1966 models! Actual sound deadening insulation under the seats![:0]
It even has it on the floors, must be because it's a Regal Deluxe. Pretty COOL! [^]

My '54's are fully undercoated inside, but no insulation.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
04-03-2007, 09:17 PM
WOW, that '52 looks GREAT Leonard! Thats something you do not see on 1953-1966 models! Actual sound deadening insulation under the seats![:0]
It even has it on the floors, must be because it's a Regal Deluxe. Pretty COOL! [^]

My '54's are fully undercoated inside, but no insulation.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

bondobilly
04-04-2007, 07:15 AM
quote:[i]

I did not know any better, but it's done, and drives, and you can't tell.

BG

bondobilly
04-04-2007, 07:15 AM
quote:[i]

I did not know any better, but it's done, and drives, and you can't tell.

BG

Dick Steinkamp
04-04-2007, 09:58 AM
quote:Originally posted by bondobilly


I did not know any better,


That fact has probably saved a lot of Studes over the years [^]

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-04-2007, 09:58 AM
quote:Originally posted by bondobilly


I did not know any better,


That fact has probably saved a lot of Studes over the years [^]

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

bondobilly
04-04-2007, 11:28 AM
That is not so far fetched of an idea. I have seen Studebakers worse than mine brought back. One guy showed me photos of his approach which was wild. He removed the entire floor, and welded a bar between the A pillar and B pillar. Then he fabricated an entire set of sub floor boxes to the toe board and the B pillar, Once done, he then welded in the replacement floor.

Your car is probably the ONLY one that is in that shape after all these years.

As long as we save them,that is all that counts.

BG

bondobilly
04-04-2007, 11:28 AM
That is not so far fetched of an idea. I have seen Studebakers worse than mine brought back. One guy showed me photos of his approach which was wild. He removed the entire floor, and welded a bar between the A pillar and B pillar. Then he fabricated an entire set of sub floor boxes to the toe board and the B pillar, Once done, he then welded in the replacement floor.

Your car is probably the ONLY one that is in that shape after all these years.

As long as we save them,that is all that counts.

BG

Swifster
04-04-2007, 11:50 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


quote:Originally posted by bondobilly

That floor is to die for. Look what I started with.


I wouldn't have started :D



Dick, I agree, but at the same time, certain cars such as Golden Hawks, Speedsters or R-series cars may be worth the effort. While I'm a firm believer of starting with the best car you can, the cars I just listed were made in so few quantities that you are kind of stuck with what you get. I certainly wouldn't go thru that on a 4-door Lark with an OHV 6 [:o)][B)].



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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

Swifster
04-04-2007, 11:50 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


quote:Originally posted by bondobilly

That floor is to die for. Look what I started with.


I wouldn't have started :D



Dick, I agree, but at the same time, certain cars such as Golden Hawks, Speedsters or R-series cars may be worth the effort. While I'm a firm believer of starting with the best car you can, the cars I just listed were made in so few quantities that you are kind of stuck with what you get. I certainly wouldn't go thru that on a 4-door Lark with an OHV 6 [:o)][B)].



---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-04-2007, 05:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Swifster

Dick, I agree, but at the same time, certain cars such as Golden Hawks, Speedsters or R-series cars may be worth the effort.

I agree, Tom.

Personally, I'd rather do a rust free Lark 4 door six auto than a rusty Speedster. Partially due to the fact that I'm no welder and would have to farm that out...at big bucks!

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-04-2007, 05:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Swifster

Dick, I agree, but at the same time, certain cars such as Golden Hawks, Speedsters or R-series cars may be worth the effort.

I agree, Tom.

Personally, I'd rather do a rust free Lark 4 door six auto than a rusty Speedster. Partially due to the fact that I'm no welder and would have to farm that out...at big bucks!

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

dave smith
04-04-2007, 07:05 PM
your floors are very nice mine has two tone red floors but just in a few small spots. seriously thats a beautiful car nice work

dave smith
04-04-2007, 07:05 PM
your floors are very nice mine has two tone red floors but just in a few small spots. seriously thats a beautiful car nice work

geojerry
04-04-2007, 09:01 PM
So Dick, when do you plan on redoing the GT Hawk from Everette, Wa. ?
MY 63 GT Hawk is still parked in las Vegas waiting for the transporter to ship to me in Ft. Lauderdale. Can't wait to sneek a look at my floors.

geojerry
04-04-2007, 09:01 PM
So Dick, when do you plan on redoing the GT Hawk from Everette, Wa. ?
MY 63 GT Hawk is still parked in las Vegas waiting for the transporter to ship to me in Ft. Lauderdale. Can't wait to sneek a look at my floors.

Dick Steinkamp
04-04-2007, 09:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by geojerry

So Dick, when do you plan on redoing the GT Hawk from Everette, Wa. ?



JDP bought that Hawk and I believe he has it at his place in Maryland now.



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-04-2007, 09:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by geojerry

So Dick, when do you plan on redoing the GT Hawk from Everette, Wa. ?



JDP bought that Hawk and I believe he has it at his place in Maryland now.



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

dictator27
04-05-2007, 12:48 PM
Dick
That clean floor looks a lot like more of Jan's work. He obviously had the carpet out - note the steel stock under the body mount bolts.
He was a pretty through person.

Terry

dictator27
04-05-2007, 12:48 PM
Dick
That clean floor looks a lot like more of Jan's work. He obviously had the carpet out - note the steel stock under the body mount bolts.
He was a pretty through person.

Terry

Dick Steinkamp
04-05-2007, 02:22 PM
You've got to be correct, Terry. Those floors are WAY too clean. Jan must have cleaned and painted them when he did the car in 1980.

Still, it's nice to find them that nice and unrepaired. Jan has made my job a lot easier. [^]

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
04-05-2007, 02:22 PM
You've got to be correct, Terry. Those floors are WAY too clean. Jan must have cleaned and painted them when he did the car in 1980.

Still, it's nice to find them that nice and unrepaired. Jan has made my job a lot easier. [^]

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg