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Studedude
08-30-2006, 11:44 AM
Found this on traderonline:

http://www.autabuy.com/Vehicles/Details.cfm?VID=63924\

Called on it, based on the $7,500 price listed on the trader site. From there, followed the link above, and found the picture, and a price of $15,000.

It is in the paint shop, getting black paint and flames. Would like to see pics of the sides and rear, but I think he's about to price himself out of the market.

Interesting, though. [^]

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2R5
08-30-2006, 12:05 PM
Now dave ..thats the best lookin Ford i've seen in along time ;)

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2R5
08-30-2006, 12:05 PM
Now dave ..thats the best lookin Ford i've seen in along time ;)

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bams50
08-30-2006, 12:08 PM
quote: but I think he's about to price himself out of the market.



Ya think?? $200 worth of 87 Taurus with old Stude parts cobbled on is still just a cobbled low-value car [xx(]

That said, I'd like to see it in person... might look cool, bad idea or not! ;)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
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bams50
08-30-2006, 12:08 PM
quote: but I think he's about to price himself out of the market.



Ya think?? $200 worth of 87 Taurus with old Stude parts cobbled on is still just a cobbled low-value car [xx(]

That said, I'd like to see it in person... might look cool, bad idea or not! ;)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

CHAMP
08-30-2006, 12:31 PM
Goes to show how far ahead of their time Studebaker was. That old 50-51 bullet-nose looks right at home to me.[8D]

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
08-30-2006, 12:31 PM
Goes to show how far ahead of their time Studebaker was. That old 50-51 bullet-nose looks right at home to me.[8D]

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
08-30-2006, 12:35 PM
I looked again and I think the bullet-nose is quite an improvement over the stock one, but I have to agree its still not a Studebaker[8D]

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
08-30-2006, 12:35 PM
I looked again and I think the bullet-nose is quite an improvement over the stock one, but I have to agree its still not a Studebaker[8D]

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

65cruiser
08-30-2006, 01:13 PM
Wonder if it's got a 289[:p]?

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65cruiser
08-30-2006, 01:13 PM
Wonder if it's got a 289[:p]?

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bams50
08-30-2006, 01:42 PM
Probably the 3.8 that came from the factory with cracked/warped heads...[xx(]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
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bams50
08-30-2006, 01:42 PM
Probably the 3.8 that came from the factory with cracked/warped heads...[xx(]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

studegary
08-30-2006, 02:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

Probably the 3.8 that came from the factory with cracked/warped heads...[xx(]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1




I wonder what percentage actually had a problem. I have also been in the business and can not remember one 3.8 with a problem with the heads. I also bought a 1989 Thunderbird new with the 3.8 and drove it for 13 years and a neighbor has been driving it for the past several years with no problems. I also worked for a company that used Sables and Taurus with 3.8s for company cars and sold them as they got near to 200K miles on them. I know of no head problems with any of them. There probably were some 3.8s with problems, but I would guess that it was a fraction of a percentage of those built. Of course, you normally only hear of the problems.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
1954 Commander Starliner (restomod)
1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
08-30-2006, 02:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

Probably the 3.8 that came from the factory with cracked/warped heads...[xx(]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1




I wonder what percentage actually had a problem. I have also been in the business and can not remember one 3.8 with a problem with the heads. I also bought a 1989 Thunderbird new with the 3.8 and drove it for 13 years and a neighbor has been driving it for the past several years with no problems. I also worked for a company that used Sables and Taurus with 3.8s for company cars and sold them as they got near to 200K miles on them. I know of no head problems with any of them. There probably were some 3.8s with problems, but I would guess that it was a fraction of a percentage of those built. Of course, you normally only hear of the problems.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
1954 Commander Starliner (restomod)
1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

sbca96
08-30-2006, 02:28 PM
Yah .... how about those Toyota engine failures?

People LOVE to talk dirt about American cars that have "heard" something
from someone. Rarely are there facts, and most are just trying to justify
the purchase of their Japanese car. I have 228,000 miles on my 93 Camaro
Z28, all of which HARD miles, and with sporadic maintainence. The heads
have never even been off. A good source of REAL info is to avoid reading
Consumer Reports and visit the following two websites :

http://www.carsurvey.org

http://www.fueleconomy.org

You might be surprised that a Buick is more reliable, & gets better mileage
than that Camry everyone seems to rave about.

http://www.autabuy.com/Photos/63924_103309315_Original.jpg

Tom

sbca96
08-30-2006, 02:28 PM
Yah .... how about those Toyota engine failures?

People LOVE to talk dirt about American cars that have "heard" something
from someone. Rarely are there facts, and most are just trying to justify
the purchase of their Japanese car. I have 228,000 miles on my 93 Camaro
Z28, all of which HARD miles, and with sporadic maintainence. The heads
have never even been off. A good source of REAL info is to avoid reading
Consumer Reports and visit the following two websites :

http://www.carsurvey.org

http://www.fueleconomy.org

You might be surprised that a Buick is more reliable, & gets better mileage
than that Camry everyone seems to rave about.

http://www.autabuy.com/Photos/63924_103309315_Original.jpg

Tom

CHAMP
08-30-2006, 04:53 PM
Everytime I look at that car I am amazed at how that bullet-nose looks!:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
08-30-2006, 04:53 PM
Everytime I look at that car I am amazed at how that bullet-nose looks!:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

8E45E
08-30-2006, 05:05 PM
I also bought a 1989 Thunderbird new with the 3.8 and drove it for 13 years and a neighbor has been driving it for the past several years with no problems. I also worked for a company that used Sables and Taurus with 3.8s for company cars and sold them as they got near to 200K miles on them. I know of no head problems with any of them.

I can't either, Gary. Though I've heard of the odd one with the transmission going on them in the mountains. Right now, they are priced in the 'budget beater-car' range for around $500 for late eighties one. And the wrecking yards are full of them, so one is able to keep one on the road for real cheap!! I've never like their "half-used bar-of-soap" styling, which is why I've stayed away from them.

Craig

8E45E
08-30-2006, 05:05 PM
I also bought a 1989 Thunderbird new with the 3.8 and drove it for 13 years and a neighbor has been driving it for the past several years with no problems. I also worked for a company that used Sables and Taurus with 3.8s for company cars and sold them as they got near to 200K miles on them. I know of no head problems with any of them.

I can't either, Gary. Though I've heard of the odd one with the transmission going on them in the mountains. Right now, they are priced in the 'budget beater-car' range for around $500 for late eighties one. And the wrecking yards are full of them, so one is able to keep one on the road for real cheap!! I've never like their "half-used bar-of-soap" styling, which is why I've stayed away from them.

Craig

sbca96
08-30-2006, 06:17 PM
I always liked the Thunderbird SC styling, but then its pretty close
to the 94-96 Impala SS body, and I have 215,000 on my Impala.;)

http://www.thunderbirds.org/images/lg90sc.jpg

Tom

sbca96
08-30-2006, 06:17 PM
I always liked the Thunderbird SC styling, but then its pretty close
to the 94-96 Impala SS body, and I have 215,000 on my Impala.;)

http://www.thunderbirds.org/images/lg90sc.jpg

Tom

bams50
08-30-2006, 06:21 PM
sbca96- Don't get me wrong; no one is more against foreign car companies than me- I REFUSE to allow ANY foreign brands in my driveway or on either of my car lots! Don't get me started on them...:(

I was just referring to all the Tauruses and Windstars I had (some I got stuck with) that had head problems... for whatever reason, I don't remember ever having trouble with the 3.8 in RWD cars like the T-Bird... but around here, the experienced dealers treated the pre-96 3.8s like the pre-98 GM quad-4s and MoPar 2.6s; don't walk away from them- RUN!!

In 96 the 3.8 was redesigned and called "Split-Fire"... lot less trouble... these cars are old enough now that we don't have to mess with them anymore; but when they were current, we'd lift the hood; if it had the 3.0, we'd look further- great engine! If you saw a 3.8, you'd drop the hood and get away!

If you saw one running good today, chances are the heads have been done; but when they were newer- [:0][B)]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
08-30-2006, 06:21 PM
sbca96- Don't get me wrong; no one is more against foreign car companies than me- I REFUSE to allow ANY foreign brands in my driveway or on either of my car lots! Don't get me started on them...:(

I was just referring to all the Tauruses and Windstars I had (some I got stuck with) that had head problems... for whatever reason, I don't remember ever having trouble with the 3.8 in RWD cars like the T-Bird... but around here, the experienced dealers treated the pre-96 3.8s like the pre-98 GM quad-4s and MoPar 2.6s; don't walk away from them- RUN!!

In 96 the 3.8 was redesigned and called "Split-Fire"... lot less trouble... these cars are old enough now that we don't have to mess with them anymore; but when they were current, we'd lift the hood; if it had the 3.0, we'd look further- great engine! If you saw a 3.8, you'd drop the hood and get away!

If you saw one running good today, chances are the heads have been done; but when they were newer- [:0][B)]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

showbizkid
08-30-2006, 06:41 PM
Tell you one thing - you won't see yourself coming down the road in the opposite direction if you're driving this! :D;)


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 Lark Standard

showbizkid
08-30-2006, 06:41 PM
Tell you one thing - you won't see yourself coming down the road in the opposite direction if you're driving this! :D;)


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 Lark Standard

JBOYLE
08-30-2006, 06:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

sbca96- Don't get me wrong; no one is more against foreign car companies than me- I REFUSE to allow ANY foreign brands in my driveway or on either of my car lots! Don't get me started on them...:(
Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1


Too bad, you're missing some great cars and driving experiences!
I'm not anti-US cars, rather most of the imports I've purchased have been because Detroit didn't make a comparable model.

I loved my Mazda Miata on the back roads to work in the summer. No, I couldn't afford a plastic Chevy. And i wasn't about to pay %$20+k for a Mustang convert mechanically identical to the one I bought in 1979 for $7500.
My life loved her Toyota Corrola AWD wagon...the only small US wagons at the time were Escorts or GM J bodies...without AWD.

Now we have a Mini Cooper...fun and stylish at 35MPG for not much above 20K. And my Mercedes CLK...bought before Cadilliac's newfound "Sporting" image...but even now, I think the Benz is better built and with less depreciation.

My SUV is American..as are my "fun cars".
Like food and music, I prefer not to limit myself to preconceived notions. Example, I always though thought Porsche's were overrated. but recently driving a 911 Cararra 4 (AWD)drop top has made a believer out of me. And the finest car I've ever driven...a Rolls. It combined the best of American and foreign luxury cars. Silent like a Caddy, but with the precision of a Mercedes...very impresssive.



63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

JBOYLE
08-30-2006, 06:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

sbca96- Don't get me wrong; no one is more against foreign car companies than me- I REFUSE to allow ANY foreign brands in my driveway or on either of my car lots! Don't get me started on them...:(
Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1


Too bad, you're missing some great cars and driving experiences!
I'm not anti-US cars, rather most of the imports I've purchased have been because Detroit didn't make a comparable model.

I loved my Mazda Miata on the back roads to work in the summer. No, I couldn't afford a plastic Chevy. And i wasn't about to pay %$20+k for a Mustang convert mechanically identical to the one I bought in 1979 for $7500.
My life loved her Toyota Corrola AWD wagon...the only small US wagons at the time were Escorts or GM J bodies...without AWD.

Now we have a Mini Cooper...fun and stylish at 35MPG for not much above 20K. And my Mercedes CLK...bought before Cadilliac's newfound "Sporting" image...but even now, I think the Benz is better built and with less depreciation.

My SUV is American..as are my "fun cars".
Like food and music, I prefer not to limit myself to preconceived notions. Example, I always though thought Porsche's were overrated. but recently driving a 911 Cararra 4 (AWD)drop top has made a believer out of me. And the finest car I've ever driven...a Rolls. It combined the best of American and foreign luxury cars. Silent like a Caddy, but with the precision of a Mercedes...very impresssive.



63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

imported_n/a
08-30-2006, 07:20 PM
I don't think the weak point of those Tauruses was the engine--it was the transaxle that required a $1500 overhaul every 75-80 thousand miles. Same with the Chrysler minivans. They are all fairly heavy cars, actually, with downsized drivetrain components stuffed underhood and running the ring and pinion in Dexron at engine temperatures plus. That is probably why they fail prematurely.

imported_n/a
08-30-2006, 07:20 PM
I don't think the weak point of those Tauruses was the engine--it was the transaxle that required a $1500 overhaul every 75-80 thousand miles. Same with the Chrysler minivans. They are all fairly heavy cars, actually, with downsized drivetrain components stuffed underhood and running the ring and pinion in Dexron at engine temperatures plus. That is probably why they fail prematurely.

Buck
08-30-2006, 07:49 PM
When ya'll talk about foreign cars. Do you mean the Toyota that's made in Kentucky or the Chevrolet that's made in Mexico?

Buck
08-30-2006, 07:49 PM
When ya'll talk about foreign cars. Do you mean the Toyota that's made in Kentucky or the Chevrolet that's made in Mexico?

Scott
08-30-2006, 08:10 PM
I think it's not bad looking, but would be improved if the guy had put on the stock bumper. I really hate it when customizers use the bullet nose cars and leave off the bumper. Obviously it was originally designed to be balanced with a bumper. Without it any bullet nose looks ugly. MY opinion, not to be confused with slander, profanity, obscenity, etc. And it's even ON topic!

Scott
08-30-2006, 08:10 PM
I think it's not bad looking, but would be improved if the guy had put on the stock bumper. I really hate it when customizers use the bullet nose cars and leave off the bumper. Obviously it was originally designed to be balanced with a bumper. Without it any bullet nose looks ugly. MY opinion, not to be confused with slander, profanity, obscenity, etc. And it's even ON topic!

JDP
08-30-2006, 08:12 PM
Drifting off topic, inch by inch, minute by minute.:)

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63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
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62 Lark 2 door
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JDP
08-30-2006, 08:12 PM
Drifting off topic, inch by inch, minute by minute.:)

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63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2/4 speed
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
62 GT(parts car)
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
52 Starliner
51 Commander

Jeff_H
08-30-2006, 08:19 PM
I cracked a head on my '86 'bird with the 3.8. Of course, it wasn't a spontaneous thing.... It was a 98 deg day and due to a partly clogged radiator it was already running a little hot. Then the heater core blew out and I lost most of the coolant while on the interstate. Dummy me tried to make it to the next exit rather than stopping on the shoulder. The temp gauge was pegged for some time by then and it stopped running due to nearly siezing from overheating. After a cool down I managed to get it running again and bypassed the heater core and refilled it, but by then it was too late.

Jeff in ND

'53 Champion Hardtop

Jeff_H
08-30-2006, 08:19 PM
I cracked a head on my '86 'bird with the 3.8. Of course, it wasn't a spontaneous thing.... It was a 98 deg day and due to a partly clogged radiator it was already running a little hot. Then the heater core blew out and I lost most of the coolant while on the interstate. Dummy me tried to make it to the next exit rather than stopping on the shoulder. The temp gauge was pegged for some time by then and it stopped running due to nearly siezing from overheating. After a cool down I managed to get it running again and bypassed the heater core and refilled it, but by then it was too late.

Jeff in ND

'53 Champion Hardtop

rockne10
08-30-2006, 08:45 PM
I'd like to see a Transtar clip cobbed onto to a Duramax...or not.:D

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
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previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

rockne10
08-30-2006, 08:45 PM
I'd like to see a Transtar clip cobbed onto to a Duramax...or not.:D

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
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Dick Steinkamp
08-30-2006, 08:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Scott
I really hate it when customizers use the bullet nose cars and leave off the bumper.


Each to his own. I think the opposite. (IMHO) bullet nose customs look best WITHOUT the bumper.

http://static.flickr.com/69/191767167_6cb93d013b.jpg

To me, it looks like they were DESIGNED sans bumper, then it was added as an after thought.



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
08-30-2006, 08:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Scott
I really hate it when customizers use the bullet nose cars and leave off the bumper.


Each to his own. I think the opposite. (IMHO) bullet nose customs look best WITHOUT the bumper.

http://static.flickr.com/69/191767167_6cb93d013b.jpg

To me, it looks like they were DESIGNED sans bumper, then it was added as an after thought.



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
08-30-2006, 08:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by rockne10

I'd like to see a Transtar clip cobbed onto to a Duramax...or not.:D


Check your Aug TW...Barlow Soper's column.



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Dick Steinkamp
08-30-2006, 08:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by rockne10

I'd like to see a Transtar clip cobbed onto to a Duramax...or not.:D


Check your Aug TW...Barlow Soper's column.



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

sbca96
08-31-2006, 02:36 AM
Yes .. another vote here for bumperless Bullet Noses:D[8D];)

I think that custom is pretty trick, though I would have started with
a better platform, better meaning RWD and V8.:D

I wasnt trying to start a flame war, just stating a FACT. There is a
VERY strong anti-American car mentality, mostly left over from the
crap that Detroit was pushing on the American public in the 80's. By
the mid 90's they (for the most part) got their act together, but the
mistrust wont go away. Granted, its "The Big 3s" fault for their lax
quality, but why not move on, forgive, and give them another shot. It
looks like there are some VERY exciting cars coming out soon. A few
are already here, the Solstice is like a Miata on steriods, and the
platform is based on the Zeta (GTO, Camaro, Monaro), so an LS2 will
drop right in. I never said that I hate Japanese cars, I just point
out that there is no such thing as a perfect car, and one brand that
has a high reliability rating (Toyota) has been caught recently doing
a few coverups that GM and Ford only wishes they could do. Why its
not in the Media more, I really dont understand. The engine failures
I can see trying to sneak by, but the steering ones?? OUCH![B)]

Tom

sbca96
08-31-2006, 02:36 AM
Yes .. another vote here for bumperless Bullet Noses:D[8D];)

I think that custom is pretty trick, though I would have started with
a better platform, better meaning RWD and V8.:D

I wasnt trying to start a flame war, just stating a FACT. There is a
VERY strong anti-American car mentality, mostly left over from the
crap that Detroit was pushing on the American public in the 80's. By
the mid 90's they (for the most part) got their act together, but the
mistrust wont go away. Granted, its "The Big 3s" fault for their lax
quality, but why not move on, forgive, and give them another shot. It
looks like there are some VERY exciting cars coming out soon. A few
are already here, the Solstice is like a Miata on steriods, and the
platform is based on the Zeta (GTO, Camaro, Monaro), so an LS2 will
drop right in. I never said that I hate Japanese cars, I just point
out that there is no such thing as a perfect car, and one brand that
has a high reliability rating (Toyota) has been caught recently doing
a few coverups that GM and Ford only wishes they could do. Why its
not in the Media more, I really dont understand. The engine failures
I can see trying to sneak by, but the steering ones?? OUCH![B)]

Tom

Transtar56
08-31-2006, 06:19 AM
Are you guys talking about the same Ford 3.8 that was used in the early 80's downsized LTD's?
I had several of those and drove the snot out of them,found them to be very good engines,though I did nearly cook one pulling a to heavy trailer up a big hill. I rememmber one morning when it was about -28f out,and my LTD was the only car on my street that would start that didn't have a block heater.

Transtar56
08-31-2006, 06:19 AM
Are you guys talking about the same Ford 3.8 that was used in the early 80's downsized LTD's?
I had several of those and drove the snot out of them,found them to be very good engines,though I did nearly cook one pulling a to heavy trailer up a big hill. I rememmber one morning when it was about -28f out,and my LTD was the only car on my street that would start that didn't have a block heater.

curt
08-31-2006, 07:17 AM
I was burned on a 1980 Buick Skylark, new car. At 150,000 miles the clutch was going out for the fifth time. It was not an abused car, poor design/parts or what ever. GM was satified to let me foot the bill. Also the power stearing rack went out, poor design, GM made the same rack for 10 years + or - a few and let the public pay the bill. I was a faith full EM Man, no longer. Foreign cars have not stuck me with the bills.

curt
08-31-2006, 07:17 AM
I was burned on a 1980 Buick Skylark, new car. At 150,000 miles the clutch was going out for the fifth time. It was not an abused car, poor design/parts or what ever. GM was satified to let me foot the bill. Also the power stearing rack went out, poor design, GM made the same rack for 10 years + or - a few and let the public pay the bill. I was a faith full EM Man, no longer. Foreign cars have not stuck me with the bills.

CHAMP
08-31-2006, 07:18 AM
I like bumpers on cars. I think the Bullet-Nose is one of those cars that looks good without the front bumper. If I had one it would probably have a front bumper. Just my preferance. I'm still amazed by how well that Bullet-Nose blends in with that 80's ford style. Kind of makes me wonder what an 07 Studebaker look like? Would it be 20-30 years ahead of todays cars?:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
08-31-2006, 07:18 AM
I like bumpers on cars. I think the Bullet-Nose is one of those cars that looks good without the front bumper. If I had one it would probably have a front bumper. Just my preferance. I'm still amazed by how well that Bullet-Nose blends in with that 80's ford style. Kind of makes me wonder what an 07 Studebaker look like? Would it be 20-30 years ahead of todays cars?:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

Scott
08-31-2006, 09:13 AM
I imagine a 2007 Studebaker would look similar to any other 2007 car, but maybe a little quirkier. It would probably be about as similar to the 1960s models as a 2007 Pontiac is as similar to a 1960s Pontiac - not much except maybe the badge.

Scott
08-31-2006, 09:13 AM
I imagine a 2007 Studebaker would look similar to any other 2007 car, but maybe a little quirkier. It would probably be about as similar to the 1960s models as a 2007 Pontiac is as similar to a 1960s Pontiac - not much except maybe the badge.

8E45E
08-31-2006, 10:09 AM
IMHO, the bumper on the bullet nose does not look all that bad, but was installed there because it had to be, not because it enhanced, or really blended with, the style of the car.

According to the Langworth book, the bumper was supposed to be 'curved to fit', but cost considerations negated that, so they went with the straight floating bumper instead with the body color extension tubes. And it does look good; probably better than the '51 where they added that air deflector. AMC in the seventies also used the floating bumper idea to take care of their 5mph impact commitment by using corrugated rubber sleeves over the shocks; much cleaner looking IMHO than the ugly, ill fitting painted urethane filler pieces GM and Ford used to fill the gap.

Craig

8E45E
08-31-2006, 10:09 AM
IMHO, the bumper on the bullet nose does not look all that bad, but was installed there because it had to be, not because it enhanced, or really blended with, the style of the car.

According to the Langworth book, the bumper was supposed to be 'curved to fit', but cost considerations negated that, so they went with the straight floating bumper instead with the body color extension tubes. And it does look good; probably better than the '51 where they added that air deflector. AMC in the seventies also used the floating bumper idea to take care of their 5mph impact commitment by using corrugated rubber sleeves over the shocks; much cleaner looking IMHO than the ugly, ill fitting painted urethane filler pieces GM and Ford used to fill the gap.

Craig

Transtar56
08-31-2006, 10:14 AM
You mean those early 60's "free standing" headlights Dave? Not so outrages when you look at the tailights,everything was kinda over the top in them years. Can you imagine what the guys at GM who designed the 59 Caddy tail fins were drnking,or smoking?
Hows old Kooter Brown doing these days? I used to drink with him some.

Transtar56
08-31-2006, 10:14 AM
You mean those early 60's "free standing" headlights Dave? Not so outrages when you look at the tailights,everything was kinda over the top in them years. Can you imagine what the guys at GM who designed the 59 Caddy tail fins were drnking,or smoking?
Hows old Kooter Brown doing these days? I used to drink with him some.

bondobilly
08-31-2006, 08:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude

Found this on traderonline:

http://www.autabuy.com/Vehicles/Details.cfm?VID=63924\

Called on it, based on the $7,500 price listed on the trader site. From there, followed the link above, and found the picture, and a price of $15,000.


I have a dumb question. Was the 50 that small of a car that the front fits a Taurus. I thought the Studes were larger, especially when you compare it to the Chevy next to it.

BG

http://bondobilly.com./1sdc.jpg Proud owner of the Hawk from Hell

bondobilly
08-31-2006, 08:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude

Found this on traderonline:

http://www.autabuy.com/Vehicles/Details.cfm?VID=63924
Called on it, based on the $7,500 price listed on the trader site. From there, followed the link above, and found the picture, and a price of $15,000.


I have a dumb question. Was the 50 that small of a car that the front fits a Taurus. I thought the Studes were larger, especially when you compare it to the Chevy next to it.

BG

http://bondobilly.com./1sdc.jpg Proud owner of the Hawk from Hell