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doogietee
07-15-2006, 11:31 PM
All work and no play make for a lonely Studebaker 2R10. I'm looking for a mechanic in the Denver/Boulder are of Colorado if anyone knows of one to do some minor repairs on my 50 2R10. Six cylinder in pretty good shape.

50 2R10
Colorado

curt
07-16-2006, 09:07 AM
To help me with nomenclature, what is a 2R10, would you describe it ? Like a duel wheel pickup,etc? [?]:)

Guido
07-16-2006, 09:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by curt

To help me with nomenclature, what is a 2R10, would you describe it ? Like a duel wheel pickup,etc? [?]:)
The 2R10 was a 3/4 ton pickup manufactured between 1949 and 1953 that had the Champion 169 CID motor and came on a 122" WB. While most were pickups, they were also sold as cab and chassis units. No dual wheels, though they had 8 bolt rims. After the introduction of the R series trucks, the 2R11 was built that had the 245 CID Commander motor. Coupled with a OD transmission, it was probably the fastest pickup of its day.


Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

doogietee
07-16-2006, 11:23 AM
Great description Guido! I thought I would include a photo of the truck leaving it's previous home on the day of purchase:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m121/doogietee/502R10.jpg

50 2R10
Colorado

Guido
07-16-2006, 01:21 PM
Looks like a good solid truck. We don't find them like that back east.

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

Roscomacaw
07-16-2006, 02:12 PM
Wow! Look's like he was just discharged from the Army![:0] Sure looks fit!

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

curt
07-16-2006, 04:50 PM
2R10 truck looks like a winner.

Transtar60
07-16-2006, 07:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido


quote:Originally posted by curt

To help me with nomenclature, what is a 2R10, would you describe it ? Like a duel wheel pickup,etc?
The 2R10 was a 3/4 ton pickup manufactured between 1949 and 1953 that had the Champion 169 CID motor and came on a 122" WB. While most were pickups, they were also sold as cab and chassis units. No dual wheels, though they had 8 bolt rims. After the introduction of the R series trucks, the 2R11 was built that had the 245 CID Commander motor. Coupled with a OD transmission, it was probably the fastest pickup of its day.


Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

[?]:D
Hey Guido,
All the 2R's 2r10/11's Ive seen have the big 5 lug 2piece wheels.
I didnt think the 8 bolt wheels were available until the Dana 60 was adopted in 1956 for 3/4 tons

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.
[?]:D

doogietee
07-17-2006, 01:20 AM
Transtar60,

I would be interested in hearing more about this. Anybody else have any comments? I'm trying to keep this truck original but maybe not if it has already been customized.

50 2R10
Colorado

DilloCrafter
07-17-2006, 02:38 AM
doogietee,
You may be interested in seeing/printing this 1950 Studebaker truck brochure, if you don't already have one. It has lots of specifications in the back pages. I don't know why, but reading that stuff always fascinates me.

http://www.tocmp.com/brochures/Studebaker/1950/Truck/Index.htm

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Current_Avacar.gif[/img=left] - DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

Guido
07-17-2006, 12:51 PM
Charlie,

You may be right on the lugs, but unfortunately the '52 2R10 that I have is 30 miles from home so it is hard to run out and check! I do know they have an offset 2 piece rim, perhaps a Kelsey Hayes?

Gary

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

Transtar60
07-18-2006, 09:13 PM
Guess I'm just fortunate to have my parts trucks close at hand.
Also have Rick Courtiers trucks original rear axle and front brakes in the tractor shed to look at.(Also have the rims from his truck)

The wheels for the 56 are Firestones , dont know about the 52, Similiar wheels on my 60 1 ton are Firestone, I know my larger trucks have Motorwheel wheels.

stuvw2mny
07-24-2006, 09:28 PM
What kind of work/repairs do you need? I am in Colorado. I am not a "mechanic', just a guy that started working on Stude trucks in 1954. Do you have a parts manual yet? If not you must do so. I just got a 2R parts and repair manual on CD from www.ClassicManuals.net in Larkspur, CO. It covers 1949 thru 1954, with a little on the 1955 E7 and E12's. It is far better than the weak-print reprint manuals.

Are you sure the overdrive is an R10, or is in R11? They are not interchangeable.

Roscomacaw
07-25-2006, 12:47 AM
Ah... while R10 IS a Wagner overdrive unit designation, it has nothing to do with the Studebaker 2R10 or 2R11 designations.;)

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

stuvw2mny
07-25-2006, 01:33 PM
Sorry that I am not as perfect as some people. I thought he said he had an overdrive in his 2R10 truck, and I was wrong. He hasn't yet said what engine or transmission is in his truck. I probably got confused by a similar posting in the other, somewhat less picky, Studebaker truck forum.

If you can allow a little indulgence to me, I did provide an offer of help to him and a good source for more information to all. The R10-R11 question specifically referred to the overdrive units, not the truck model numbers. I agree that to a newbie my question could be confusing, so I should not have mentioned it. Is slitting my wrists sufficient?

Roscomacaw
07-25-2006, 02:35 PM
Pardon my rudeness![V] I thought giving accurate information was perferable to vague.
Please RB, give me a mailing address so I can mail you some band-aids for your wrists. I wouldn't want that on my conscience.[:0]

We could ASSUME that this fella's 2R10 still had it's original 169.6 cu.in. flathead powerplant that all 2R10s would have had, but HE just might be assuming that Studebaker had only one flathead 6 (or ONE engine, period) in 1950. I know lotsa modern-day gearheads think the only original thing that could lurk under the hood of my 3E7 is a wimpy little flathead 6. ...... "Studebaker had a V8!!!?"[:0]

Working on Stude trucks since '54! That's gotta make you a valuable resource. Please, don't take your ball and go home. We need you to enlighten us.[:I] No - really!;)

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

DilloCrafter
07-25-2006, 03:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by stuvw2mny

Sorry that I am not as perfect as some people. I thought he said he had an overdrive in his 2R10 truck, and I was wrong. He hasn't yet said what engine or transmission is in his truck. I probably got confused by a similar posting in the other, somewhat less picky, Studebaker truck forum.
Stuvw2mny,
Hey, don't take Mr. Biggs the wrong way. I know it's hard to tell with email and web postings, since they don't show body language or tone of voice, but I'm sure Biggsy meant no offense at all. He's not that kind of a guy. I picture him more as an extremely helpful, harmless little fuzzball, and we all love him here.

While some of us on this forum tend to be picky all the time, and ALL of us are capable of being picky some of the time, we are, by and large, a good group of folks who try to help each other out.

So, for what it's worth, relax. You are in good company here, and we definitely welcome your knowledge gained from years of experience. I'll probably be emailing you myself for questions about my own truck, now that I know about you as a resource.

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Current_Avacar.gif[/img=left] - DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

Guido
07-25-2006, 05:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by DilloCrafter
I picture him more as an extremely helpful, harmless little fuzzball, and we all love him here.

Dillo,

I guess you haven't seen the picture of Bigsy in his Hee Haw outfit with the rest of the Studebaker farmers. Little isn't exactly what comes to mind...;)

Gary

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

doogietee
08-03-2006, 10:08 PM
Oops. Sorry guys I've been out of town. I hope no wrists were slit, at least not inside a Studebaker. :D I'll try not to post and run again. Anyway, as near as I can tell everything is original. I think it does have a Champion 169 CID motor, with a slight oil leak that needs fixed. It suffers from vapor lock whenever the temperature gets over 85 degrees. Today it was 75 and I drove it cross town with no problems. Ran great. Took the expressway at 45, the legal speed limit (and pretty much the truck's limit), and got lots of thumbs up and head nods. People love this truck as I do and I love it more every time I drive it.

The factory build sheet says it's been in Colorado all it's life, originally shipped to Fort Collins, hence the good body, Guido. I've been told that it has been skim coated with bondo and had a second paint job. The bondo was probably just to smooth it out, which I was also told was common at one time, and does not appear to be hiding any major sheet metal issues. I do have a service manual, parts book and the brochure that DilloCrafter pointed out. I will probably order the CD manuals, thanks stuvw2mny. stuvw2mny, I'll consider the offer. Larkspur is on the opposite side of Denver for me, but who knows.

Some things it needs:

It's leaking oil, I think, from the valve spring cover. If that needs changing would it be prudent to go over all the important enging gaskets? The truck actually came with a rebuild kit with quite a few gaskets.

The suspension seems a bit funky. The left side clunks a bit when ever I hit a hard bump and it doesn't respond too well to speed bumps and likes to wander a bit, although less once I put new tires on it.
The truck lurches to the right if the brakes are applied hard and fast. So they need some work.

Body issues arent' too bad. Need some rocker panels, although they aren't too bad. Appears to have mostly surface rust and only a few dings. Interior needs to be completely redone, although the dash metal and paint are in good shape. Could use a steering wheel and needs a speedometer cable.

Probably needs a new wiring harness. It's still a 6 volt and will probably remain one. Should I pony up and by the original cloth wiring?


50 2R10
Colorado

rockne10
08-04-2006, 08:10 AM
Laquered braided wire harness will cost two to three times what modern wire will cost. Trailered show queen or driver?

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser