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JBOYLE
06-20-2006, 04:11 PM
It's getting to be time to buy the Avanti some new tires.
The old ones have plenty of tread but are age cracked.
I plam to put radials on it, but I have a couple of questions:

What size works best?
What should be the width of the white wall for a proper 1963 look?
And any suggestions for a source would be welcome...

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
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Dick Steinkamp
06-20-2006, 04:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

[font=Comic Sans MS]It's getting to be time to buy the Avanti some new [b]tires.
The old ones have plenty of tread but are age cracked.
I plam to put radials on it, but I have a couple of questions:

[b]What size works best?
What should be the width of the white wall for a proper 1963 look?


From the Coker Tire web site...

http://www.coker.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=18204&cat=300&page=1

"3. What is the correct whitewall width for the year of my car?
A: Since our tires are built in the original molds, they each feature the correct whitewall width for each particular size. If we have your original size, the whitewall widths will be correct. It can, however, be a matter of personal preference. Traditional whitewall widths fall into the following general range: Pre-1954 = 3" or more, 1954-1956 = 2 1/2" to 2 11/16",1957-1961 = 2 1/4" to 2 1/2", 1962-1964 = 1" or less."

I believe 670 15's were stock. If you don't want to go with the original bias ply tires, a 205 75 15 is pretty close.





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JDP
06-20-2006, 04:46 PM
April 62 was the transition point from 2 1/2 inch to 1 1/4 or 1 1/2.inch for Studebaker, so all Avanti's had the narrow whites even those made in 62.

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Green53
06-20-2006, 06:19 PM
I believe 1" is correct for 63-64 Avanti. Firestones were OEM on most but my 64 came from the factory with Sears Allstate. Sears had an advertising promo on at the time.
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bams50
06-20-2006, 11:21 PM
For me, on 95% of the old cars out there, the wider the better :D[8D]

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Dan White
06-21-2006, 09:50 AM
There would be something real wrong with putting wide whites on an Avanti. I bought regular Cooper white walls for my '64 Hawk and they look pretty much the way the pictures I have seen for '63/'64. If I had an Avanti I would probably go with red lines, they look pretty cool in my opinion. I would steer clear of Coker, non-US make tires and there have been some issues on balancing some of their wide whites. Diamond Backs (http://www.diamondbacktires.com/) are pretty nice since they vulcanize the white wall or other right on modern (new) tires.

Dan White
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N8N
06-21-2006, 10:44 AM
I don't think any "wide" white would be correct for an Avanti, possible exception would be a very early car you could get away with the narrow (1-1/4"?) whitewall that went all the way to the rim, but only on a very early car and I'm not even sure about that. I'd stick with a modern style whitewall about 1" wide as others have suggested.

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mbstude
06-21-2006, 04:37 PM
Wide whites on an Avanti? Maybe OK if it had a hopped up Flat head six with OD... It reminds me of that 56 truck on ebay a while back that JDP bought.

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JDP
06-21-2006, 05:40 PM
I've actually seen a picture of a early factory prototype Avanti with wide white. (Not a pretty sight)

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JDP
06-22-2006, 12:14 AM
Just bought these on ebay, he may have more, perfect for late 62-66's:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQitemZ8076626385QQihZ019QQcategoryZ66473

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StudeRich
06-22-2006, 06:21 PM
According to my memory of the original tires (and original spares I have) and Coker's Info, 1.3 inches is too wide to be absolutety correct and look right, but I am sure they will work fine and look almost OK ![B)]

[quote]Originally posted by JDP

Just bought these on ebay, he may have more, perfect for late 62-66's:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQitemZ8076626385QQihZ019QQcategoryZ66473



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JDP
06-22-2006, 08:28 PM
They varied from 1 inch to a 1 1/2 depending on brand. Here's a friends GT with 1.3's.

http://stude.com/white.jpg

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Dick Steinkamp
06-22-2006, 08:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by JDP

Just bought these on ebay, he may have more, perfect for late 62-66's:



The agressive, all weather, wrap around tread pattern just doesn't do it for me. Screams 2006.

Tread like these radials looks more 60's to me...

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVID+Touring&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=075SR5TOURW&fromCompare1=yes&place=4

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=SP+40+A%2FS&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=075SR5SP40W&fromCompare1=yes&place=5

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Ameri-G4S&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=075SR5AMG4S&fromCompare1=yes&place=7





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Laemmle
06-22-2006, 09:06 PM
Taste is a personal issue, if one likes a wide ww on their Avanti then who are we to say it looks like krap...to each his/her own...

Walt Zander
06-23-2006, 08:23 AM
The gentleman did ask what would be the " proper look for a 1963" and was supplied with a variety of viewpoints. The alternating
opinions offered are helpful to me in this regard. The beauty of the forums.

I do agree with Dick in as much that
"The agressive, all weather, wrap around tread pattern just doesn't do it for me. Screams 2006."



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N8N
06-23-2006, 08:45 PM
just as a side note, one of the links Dick posted was to a General tire... I wouldn't wish those on my worst enemy, they may look OK and if past experience is any indicator they will wear like iron, but the traction... not so good. Only other tires I've driven on that I hated that much were the Continental all seasons that were stock on my '02 GTI - replacing them with a set of Michelin Pilots was the best thing I ever did for that car.

nate

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