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prager
06-13-2006, 07:21 AM
Hello all, just recieved a copy of Car Craft Aug 2006. On page 6 there is a blurb about Studebaker eventually becoming part of AMC. Any truth to this? I have never heard about it if so..[?]

bonehead007
06-13-2006, 07:32 AM
aMC was created from Rambler, Hudson & Nash..They purchased the Willy's Jeep divison in the 70's, thats how Jeep became a part of AMC. Studebaker was looking to merge with them in the mid 50's but, that fell through hence, the Studebaker Packard merge. After that, the board of directors started buying up other companies to "diversify" Studebaker and never gave the auto division the support they needed.

DEEPNHOCK
06-13-2006, 08:08 AM
Yellow journalism at it's worst!
Young punks at Car Craft never took automotive history in high school[}:)]
Corporations always talk about strategies and possible mergers, and Studebaker was no different.
But that one never happened..
Jeff[8D]



quote:Originally posted by prager

Hello all, just recieved a copy of Car Craft Aug 2006. On page 6 there is a blurb about Studebaker eventually becoming part of AMC. Any truth to this? I have never heard about it if so..[?]

Dan White
06-13-2006, 08:51 AM
AMC was formed from Hudson and Nash. Rambler was a model in the AMC line. Willys came into the fold in 1970 when it purchsed the Willys Jeep assets.

Dan White
64 R1 GT
64 R2 GT

studeclunker
06-13-2006, 08:52 AM
Oh Lord! Here we go again...[:0] I have heard this time out of hand. How many times have people asked if my car was a rambler?[:o)] I don't know the number.:(

Sigh. Some of the stupidest rumors just won't die! Sadly Studebaker did. Of course, if one looks at the subsidiaries as part of the parent (Studebaker), then the company still lives through;
STP, Worthington inc, etc..

Hey! found a couple of more studes in yet another little corner of Redding!! Two 2-door Larks (62?) and a stripped (early) Hawk.

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

52hawk
06-13-2006, 09:16 AM
And today it's known as 'Daimler-Chrysler-Studebaker'

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk
60Lark

Michidan
06-13-2006, 11:26 AM
"that one never happened" absolutely. I haven't read the car craft article, but if the question was "eventually", seems like it was an idea being tossed around at the time.
I've read in several sources George Mason at Nash the supporter of the idea, but several factors including his death ended it.

Dan
52 hardtop

Roscomacaw
06-13-2006, 12:03 PM
There's your "connection"![:0] Studebaker distributed Mercedes from 56 to 63, Chrysler bought out AMC in the end. Now MB and Chrysler are one.:D

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

prager
06-13-2006, 07:37 PM
Mr. Biggs..I love your sense of humor!!!:D(the connection [:0] funny..) I will be posting another topic, as I have a part that I need help on..hope you can help, as you are THE MAN!!! Thanks!!!!

sbca96
06-13-2006, 08:12 PM
Studebaker made the Avanti, from N&A - "Avanti Motor Corporation" was
formed, and thats "AMC".

Tom

raprice
06-13-2006, 08:32 PM
Actually, the Rambler name was coined by the Jeffrey company in 1902. It was Charles Nash, formerly President of Buick, who bought the Jeffrey company and from that came Nash Motors. George Mason came to Nash by way of Kelvinator, when the two companies merged. It was Mason's idea to merge Nash, Hudson, Studebaker and Packard. Unfortunately, he only half succeeded. By merging Nash and Hudson and forming American Motors, the company flourished for many more years. He died too soon to follow through. No one knows if he would have succeeded though.
Rog
'59 Lark Regal Hardtop

Guido
06-13-2006, 09:58 PM
quote:Willys came into the fold in 1970 when it purchsed the Willys Jeep assets.

quote:

Dan,

At the time AMC acquired Jeep, they were known as Kaiser Jeep. The '62 Wagon that I owned was a Willys, but the '65 Wagoneer was a Kaiser Jeep.

Gary

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"

studegary
06-13-2006, 10:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

There's your "connection"![:0] Studebaker distributed Mercedes from 56 to 63, Chrysler bought out AMC in the end. Now MB and Chrysler are one.:D



Working from memory, as I usually do, but I thought that it was 1958-1965.

Gary L.
1954 Commander Starliner (restomod)
1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

ROADRACELARK
06-13-2006, 10:18 PM
That's funny[:p], I don't ever remember seeing a refrigerator (Kelvinator) in the show rooms next to the cars!?!?!?[:0][}:)]
Dan

rockne10
06-13-2006, 11:05 PM
Bantam made the first Jeeps in Butler, Pa. Bantam was sort of like a Crosley and Crosley made refrigerators and radios. About the time they went out of business, Kevin Bacon was born.

52hawk
06-14-2006, 12:11 AM
Crosley made some darn cute little trucks and cars too.
Kevin Bacon-didn't he invent the pig?

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk
60Lark

sbca96
06-14-2006, 01:59 AM
You know that Studebaker was doomed as soon as they made that Edsel!;)

Tom

Guido
06-14-2006, 07:03 AM
My mother still has a 1941 Kelvenator that my father's parents bought new in 1941. The walls are about 4" thick and there is enough room in the "freezer" compartment for about 2 trays of ice. We used well into the '80's for seeds, beer and photographic paper and I imagine it still runs. The compressor took up the bottom 2/5ths of the machine.

Do not forget that International Harvester also made fridge's and freezers back in the '50's. This may have been an offshoot of making chilled dairy equipment.

When we built our house in '69 we installed a Frigidaire stove and I believe they were owned by GM at the time.

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"

tomnoller
06-14-2006, 08:10 AM
Funny thing, tho, back to the original thread...at our monthly meeting this past weekend, we were helping a member get his '64 Wagonaire going and had the front discs off, down to the spindles. He's also an AMC guy and thought the rotor looked similar to the Stude one. He dug out an AMC rotor and it slid on the spindle as though it were made for it. Same size, down to the bolt pattern with the exception that the AMC rotor is thicker...and it's being repo'd!

DEEPNHOCK
06-14-2006, 09:05 AM
The basic engine from the Crosley vehicles were used for decades in the trucking industry with refrigerated trailer reefer units.
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by rockne10

Bantam made the first Jeeps in Butler, Pa. Bantam was sort of like a Crosley and Crosley made refrigerators and radios. About the time they went out of business, Kevin Bacon was born.

bonehead007
06-14-2006, 11:29 AM
Pick up the August Issue of Hemmings Classic Car Magazine. Theres an article explaining the Studebaker history up to their demise..They also have quite of few pictures of Studebakers and their owners..

Roscomacaw
06-14-2006, 12:37 PM
Crosley.... didn't they make that "Hot-Shot" refridgerator???[:o)] Or maybe the Hot Shot WAS a refridgerator with it's door removed and a seat installed![:0]

Here's proof! http://www.hubcapcafe.com/ocs/pages01/cros4901.htm

I rest my case.[^]

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

imported_n/a
06-14-2006, 03:24 PM
I'd sure like to get ahold of a Crosley Hot Shot, put in a Blown Hemmi and a nine-inch Ford. Then, cusstomize it with 58 Packard Tailights. [:0]

Guido
06-14-2006, 10:28 PM
Crosley also built the "Farm 'O Ranch", which was a small 2WD Jeep like vehicle. It could be had with a hitch at the back for farming and be driven (slowly) to town, much the same as the Minneapolis Moline UDLX Comfortractor, which had a cab and could run 40MPH.

Here is a picture.

http://www.wdm.ca/projects/comfortractor/


Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"

Roscomacaw
06-14-2006, 11:09 PM
I thought it was "Farm-o-Road".

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

imported_n/a
06-14-2006, 11:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

Oh Lord! Here we go again...[:0] I have heard this time out of hand. How many times have people asked if my car was a rambler?[:o)] I don't know the number.:(

Sigh. Some of the stupidest rumors just won't die! Sadly Studebaker did. Of course, if one looks at the subsidiaries as part of the parent (Studebaker), then the company still lives through;
STP, Worthington inc, etc..

Hey! found a couple of more studes in yet another little corner of Redding!! Two 2-door Larks (62?) and a stripped (early) Hawk.

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith


LUCKY ME! I have a Studebaker and a Rambler! So when people say 'Hey, is that a Rambler?' I just say ' No, The Rambler is out back!' LOL