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studeclunker
03-21-2007, 03:40 PM
Which battery would I need for a '52 2R16? I assume (and we all know what THAT word stands for) the system would be 6 volt? I've been told a 'Group 1' and a '2EE'. But which is it?

C'mon guys! I need your help here!![8]

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64V-K7
03-21-2007, 04:02 PM
If it's square and something like 9" X 8" X 7", then it's a group 1. Go to NAPA and ask for a USRN-1. It's a 100 amp hour, 730CCA. About $65.00

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Guido
03-21-2007, 04:27 PM
Clunk,

As a '52 model, it would actually be a 2R16-A and have the 245 Commander motor. You may be better off going with an 8 volt tractor battery to give you extra starting capacity.

Gary

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studeclunker
03-21-2007, 04:52 PM
quote:As a '52 model, it would actually be a 2R16-A and have the 245 Commander motor. You may be better off going with an 8 volt tractor battery to give you extra starting capacity.

Gary

I've heard members mention that. The question is, again, which one?

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Guido
03-21-2007, 08:24 PM
Best thing to do would be to measure the tray and find the biggest battery that will fit in it.

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Tom B
03-21-2007, 09:58 PM
Optima Red Top 6 volt (880 CCA) will fit diagonally in a Group 1 case. (I think), I'll report in a week or so.

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studeclunker
03-21-2007, 10:44 PM
Guido, don't you have one? The truck is about three or four hundred miles from my house. I'd like to try it this weekend and need to know what will turn it over. So, it's not like I can just pop down and check. Sorry about the bother, fellas, it's necessary to me to know if this thing will run. If not...[V] but if so...:D

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Guido
03-22-2007, 06:15 PM
Ron,

I have a '52 2R17A, but without looking in the parts book I suspect the battery tray was the same size as on all trucks. Unfortunately I do not have a truck here at my house that I can readily check. Perhaps someone can give you measurements.

Gary

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54-61-62
03-22-2007, 09:07 PM
Ron,

Go get yourself a battery from a farm store, six volt for a Ford 8N tractor; its the correct size for the six volt trucks.

I used to have several C-cab trucks, and I remember pilligaing the battery out of our Ford tractor and it fit "right" in the truck.

Kent

studeclunker
03-22-2007, 10:28 PM
Kent,
THANK YOU!!

I'll call on that in the morning.:D

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studeclunker
03-23-2007, 01:10 PM
I called two dealers of batteries (in Anderson, CA) and they both said the same thing about 8V batteries. 'Don't do it! It'll fry your electrical system! to put in an 8V battery the generator/alternator need to be changed and the voltage regulator will have to be changed as well.'

Miller Equipment in Anderson has the 6V battery for less than sixty dollars. So, looks like I'm in business.:D I just might get two, just in case. Hmmm, I'm going to need a charger too, as my current one is 12V.;)

When one is ignorant like me, it's best to play it safe. However, if anyone would care to educate me on the 8V, I'm willing to listen.:D Spin faster, start easier, good! Yep, yep, yep!:D Spin faster, start easier, fry electrical, Bad! Nope, nope, nope![V]

Thanks for the help!

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54-61-62
03-23-2007, 01:18 PM
I don't know about California prices, but here in Michigan at a Tractor Supply Store (chain farm store) I can get a 6V battery for $38. Other stores are not considerably higher.

Kent

StudeRich
03-23-2007, 03:13 PM
Ron; it's all about the Cranking AMPs CA , and [u]Cold</u> Cranking AMPs CCA! Very important, don't be misled by PRICE unless it has the same or more POWER, if that farm tractor batt. for $38.00 has 730 AMPs or more(like the NAPA one) it's a real deal, it not it isn't.! Most Group 1 batt. are sold for little 4 cyl. VW's and have a low cranking AMP rating!

Since you asked if it was 6 volt, I take it you are not too familiar with pre 1956 models, so I'll remind you: DON'T FORGET TO GROUND THE + BATT. POST!!!

StudeRich
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JDP
03-23-2007, 03:32 PM
A 8 volt is a drop in and only usually requires a regulator adjustment, it 'might' lessen bulb life a bit, but that's it. Battery Warehouse sells them around here.

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54-61-62
03-23-2007, 03:55 PM
I just went and looked my $38 TSC battery, it has 820 amps. That particular battery has started a big old 1947 Minneapolis-Moline "U" for years, anyone who has farm experience will recognize that the U is a massive chunk of iron to turn over and start.

If it will start that MM U it will certianly crank over a Stude truck.

Kent

StudeRich
03-23-2007, 04:52 PM
Kent is TSC a local small Mich. batt. manufacturer, that non-locals cannot get or what? That's one heck of a good Batt.(820 AMPs WOW!) AND price![^] I would recommend it to West Coast people, IF we could get one!

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

60Lark
03-23-2007, 05:14 PM
TSC in my area is Tractor Supply Co., and they do sell batteries for tractors and farm equipment, but to be honest, I had never thought about looking there for a battery for my cars :(

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studeclunker
03-24-2007, 02:42 AM
Folks, you forget that California is the home turf of the eco-nazi. These people have so many requriements and recovery taxes that everything is more expensive here. It's getting rediculous. I'm not surprised that batteries are twice as expensive at the bargin prices here. They even want to charge us sales tax for our purchases OUTSIDE California! They call it a use tax.

Welcome to the People's Republic Of California. Only, the big lie is; it's not run for the people.

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