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bondobilly
03-20-2007, 08:40 AM
I am posting this to both forums

Does anyone have the name, or the part number of the adhesive trim that can be used inplace of the metal trim used on 56-62 Hawks. It is the same width and height of the metal originals. Ray Fichthorn used it on a number of hawks. The Hawk is getting a face lift since being hit and there was damage to fin. The trim on there now has been removed and re-installed so many times we are not confident it will survive another round.

Thanks
BG

StudeRich
03-20-2007, 12:22 PM
What metal trim? Where does it go? Part number? I cannot think of any trim on the rear of a '56J that would fit a '62 GT or anything that came in adhesive OR clip type fastener. If you give us a clue maybe the light bulb will go off! :D




StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
03-20-2007, 12:22 PM
What metal trim? Where does it go? Part number? I cannot think of any trim on the rear of a '56J that would fit a '62 GT or anything that came in adhesive OR clip type fastener. If you give us a clue maybe the light bulb will go off! :D




StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudHawk60
03-20-2007, 12:51 PM
He's talking about the trim that runs along the inboard edge of the tail fin where it attaches to the rear fender, next to the trunk opening. It hides the tail fin attach bolts. I don't have anymore info than that. Didn't Ray just use the stuff you'd stick on the side of a car to prevent door dings?

http://www.ncsdc.com/TechnicalPages/FinsTech/index.htm

StudHawk60
03-20-2007, 12:51 PM
He's talking about the trim that runs along the inboard edge of the tail fin where it attaches to the rear fender, next to the trunk opening. It hides the tail fin attach bolts. I don't have anymore info than that. Didn't Ray just use the stuff you'd stick on the side of a car to prevent door dings?

http://www.ncsdc.com/TechnicalPages/FinsTech/index.htm

bondobilly
03-20-2007, 12:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

What metal trim? Where does it go? Part number? I cannot think of any trim on the rear of a '56J that would fit a '62 GT or anything that came in adhesive OR clip type fastener. If you give us a clue maybe the light bulb will go off! :D




StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

I should have typed 56-61. It is that miserable trim strip that supposedly hides the seam of the hawk's fins to the rear deck.

The originals were somehow extruded and T clips, and T head screws were threaded thru them, then tighten down. If I remember correctly there are 18 T heads per car, and to get the trim smooth is downright near impossible.

Phantom reproduces a set, but as good as it is, if you are not really carefull, you can crimp it. I have a complete set of new T-screws and body shop is willing to install them with extisting trim. BUT, as a driver, after a year or so, they start to develop a bit of rust and then stain the paint.

Using the adhesive backed material allows pop riveting the fin, and then covering the seam.

BG

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bondobilly
03-20-2007, 12:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

What metal trim? Where does it go? Part number? I cannot think of any trim on the rear of a '56J that would fit a '62 GT or anything that came in adhesive OR clip type fastener. If you give us a clue maybe the light bulb will go off! :D




StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

I should have typed 56-61. It is that miserable trim strip that supposedly hides the seam of the hawk's fins to the rear deck.

The originals were somehow extruded and T clips, and T head screws were threaded thru them, then tighten down. If I remember correctly there are 18 T heads per car, and to get the trim smooth is downright near impossible.

Phantom reproduces a set, but as good as it is, if you are not really carefull, you can crimp it. I have a complete set of new T-screws and body shop is willing to install them with extisting trim. BUT, as a driver, after a year or so, they start to develop a bit of rust and then stain the paint.

Using the adhesive backed material allows pop riveting the fin, and then covering the seam.

BG

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52hawk
03-20-2007, 05:01 PM
Billy,go here:http://www.ncsdc.com/TechnicalPages/FinsTech/index.htm
I don't know if he gives a part # but you could take measurements of the fin strip[or take the old strip along for comparison, to your local auto body supply store and buy a roll. I see he used chrome,this stuff is available in black too.I'd think the black would be easier to scuff and paint.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
03-20-2007, 05:01 PM
Billy,go here:http://www.ncsdc.com/TechnicalPages/FinsTech/index.htm
I don't know if he gives a part # but you could take measurements of the fin strip[or take the old strip along for comparison, to your local auto body supply store and buy a roll. I see he used chrome,this stuff is available in black too.I'd think the black would be easier to scuff and paint.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
03-20-2007, 05:10 PM
Also,I don't think this stuff will lay flat enough over pop rivets,unless you remove just a tiny spot of the adhesive backing for each rivet.I don't really like the bondo idea either,although I wish I'd have seen this tip before I re-used my old strips. I'd use tapered screws with a slight counter sink in holes,or small welds grinded smooth under the strip.[on a steel fin that is!]
When you go to look for this plastic,ask for door 'side moulding'-preferably 3M

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
03-20-2007, 05:10 PM
Also,I don't think this stuff will lay flat enough over pop rivets,unless you remove just a tiny spot of the adhesive backing for each rivet.I don't really like the bondo idea either,although I wish I'd have seen this tip before I re-used my old strips. I'd use tapered screws with a slight counter sink in holes,or small welds grinded smooth under the strip.[on a steel fin that is!]
When you go to look for this plastic,ask for door 'side moulding'-preferably 3M

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

bondobilly
03-20-2007, 05:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by 52hawk

Billy,go here:http://www.ncsdc.com/TechnicalPages/FinsTech/index.htm
I don't know if he gives a part # but you could take measurements of the fin strip to your local auto body supply store and buy a roll. I see he used chrome,this stuff is available in black too.I'd think the black would be easier to scuff and paint.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

Thanks, that's the stuff, but I can't find what it is. The JC Whitney stuff is too high and has a curve. The stuff Ray used was flat with a low crown.

BG

bondobilly
03-20-2007, 05:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by 52hawk

Billy,go here:http://www.ncsdc.com/TechnicalPages/FinsTech/index.htm
I don't know if he gives a part # but you could take measurements of the fin strip to your local auto body supply store and buy a roll. I see he used chrome,this stuff is available in black too.I'd think the black would be easier to scuff and paint.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

Thanks, that's the stuff, but I can't find what it is. The JC Whitney stuff is too high and has a curve. The stuff Ray used was flat with a low crown.

BG

52hawk
03-20-2007, 05:23 PM
Yeah,JC Whitless is right here about 3 miles from my house.But they never have exactly what I need! Thats why I specified 3M.I used to have some of the 3M at my shop,and compared it to my fin strip-a perfect match for the fin strip,Dang! after I spent over a day repairing my rusty strips.
If worse comes to worse, you cannot find a local auto body supply store to work with,I would check my store here and ship it to you.IF-the same material is still available.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
03-20-2007, 05:23 PM
Yeah,JC Whitless is right here about 3 miles from my house.But they never have exactly what I need! Thats why I specified 3M.I used to have some of the 3M at my shop,and compared it to my fin strip-a perfect match for the fin strip,Dang! after I spent over a day repairing my rusty strips.
If worse comes to worse, you cannot find a local auto body supply store to work with,I would check my store here and ship it to you.IF-the same material is still available.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

60studehawk
03-20-2007, 05:56 PM
Hey Bondobilly. Is this what your looking for?http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/60studehawk/fintrim.jpg
Check you Turning wheels. He as this ad in every month

Jeff Sheaffer
60 Hawk
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/60studehawk/jeffs60hawk.jpg

60studehawk
03-20-2007, 05:56 PM
Hey Bondobilly. Is this what your looking for?http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/60studehawk/fintrim.jpg
Check you Turning wheels. He as this ad in every month

Jeff Sheaffer
60 Hawk
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/60studehawk/jeffs60hawk.jpg

bondobilly
03-20-2007, 06:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by 52hawk

Also,I don't think this stuff will lay flat enough over pop rivets,unless you remove just a tiny spot of the adhesive backing for each rivet.I don't really like the bondo idea either,although I wish I'd have seen this tip before I re-used my old strips. I'd use tapered screws with a slight counter sink in holes,or small welds grinded smooth under the strip.[on a steel fin that is!]
When you go to look for this plastic,ask for door 'side moulding'-preferably 3M

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

If it is just plain old 3M body side molding, then Ken can get his hands on it. Ideally if we find the stuff, he willl have his guys cut the areas over the screws. If you have a part number or product ID that would be fantastic. Much appreciate.

Billy

bondobilly
03-20-2007, 06:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by 52hawk

Also,I don't think this stuff will lay flat enough over pop rivets,unless you remove just a tiny spot of the adhesive backing for each rivet.I don't really like the bondo idea either,although I wish I'd have seen this tip before I re-used my old strips. I'd use tapered screws with a slight counter sink in holes,or small welds grinded smooth under the strip.[on a steel fin that is!]
When you go to look for this plastic,ask for door 'side moulding'-preferably 3M

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

If it is just plain old 3M body side molding, then Ken can get his hands on it. Ideally if we find the stuff, he willl have his guys cut the areas over the screws. If you have a part number or product ID that would be fantastic. Much appreciate.

Billy

60studehawk
03-20-2007, 06:39 PM
Studebaker part number for 59-61 hawk.
Right inner fin molding. 1331286P
Left inner fin molding. 1331287P

Jeff Sheaffer
60 Hawk
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/60studehawk/jeffs60hawk.jpg

60studehawk
03-20-2007, 06:39 PM
Studebaker part number for 59-61 hawk.
Right inner fin molding. 1331286P
Left inner fin molding. 1331287P

Jeff Sheaffer
60 Hawk
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/60studehawk/jeffs60hawk.jpg

1961HAWK
03-20-2007, 06:58 PM
I used 3m chrome. worked well got it at napa. i was told the black doesnt adhere paint as well. i looked i still have just enough to cover most of a fin left, but no part number. i can send you a piece to match up with something local if you like.
sorry

Erin Hays
1961 Hawk
1962 Lark
1963 Wagonaire

1961HAWK
03-20-2007, 06:58 PM
I used 3m chrome. worked well got it at napa. i was told the black doesnt adhere paint as well. i looked i still have just enough to cover most of a fin left, but no part number. i can send you a piece to match up with something local if you like.
sorry

Erin Hays
1961 Hawk
1962 Lark
1963 Wagonaire

52hawk
03-21-2007, 08:55 AM
chrome 1/2 inch half round-Protekto Trim#37-422 black-#37-423. [has 3m adhesive on it] Maybe the chrome would be a little less porous,easier to paint?


LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
03-21-2007, 08:55 AM
chrome 1/2 inch half round-Protekto Trim#37-422 black-#37-423. [has 3m adhesive on it] Maybe the chrome would be a little less porous,easier to paint?


LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

StudHawk60
03-21-2007, 02:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by 60studehawk

Hey Bondobilly. Is this what your looking for?http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/60studehawk/fintrim.jpg
Check you Turning wheels. He as this ad in every month




Trust me, that's NOT what he wants. I ordered those several years ago when I did my Hawk. Those strips are like the originals, but you have to bend them yourself. I made up a jig to bend them, got out the torch, and with the help of a buddy, proceded to produce two pieces of scrap.:( I ended up using something else. I did get $50 for the t-bolts on ebay though!:D

StudHawk60
03-21-2007, 02:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by 60studehawk

Hey Bondobilly. Is this what your looking for?http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/60studehawk/fintrim.jpg
Check you Turning wheels. He as this ad in every month




Trust me, that's NOT what he wants. I ordered those several years ago when I did my Hawk. Those strips are like the originals, but you have to bend them yourself. I made up a jig to bend them, got out the torch, and with the help of a buddy, proceded to produce two pieces of scrap.:( I ended up using something else. I did get $50 for the t-bolts on ebay though!:D