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richpease
02-24-2006, 09:53 PM
Last summer wjile at the SDC International Meet in Spokane, I bought a running 61 Lark Cruiser and had it towed to Utah where I live. The body is pretty straight and the engine seems fine (I believe its a 259 with 2 barrel carb). My original plan was to use the engine to get my 59 going again and also use the fenders to replace my 59's. Only after I bought it did I realize that the fenders are yaller on the 61. So now, after much discussion with my wife, I have a new plan - part out the 59 and restore the 61. Any advice would be helpful. Two big things concern me at the moment - no exhaust (ripped off somehow [V])and a pretty rough interior.

Thanks in advance for the tips. I'm new to the forum, but I've been a Stude owner since 1989.

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr

N8N
02-25-2006, 06:09 AM
If your '59 just needs front fenders, you can get 'glass ones from Dan Webber. As for exhaust, Silvertone sells direct replacements in stainless, or you can get stock style pipes from SASCO. For the interior I would check with SASCO first; they have a lot of '62 upholstery still so you might get lucky with your '61.

good luck,

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
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richpease
02-25-2006, 07:03 PM
Nate,

Thanks for the direction. A question about exhaust - SASCO has stainless and non-stainless mufflers, what are the advantages/disadvantages?

Thanks.

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr

Swifster
02-25-2006, 07:04 PM
Stainless will last twice as long (and cost twice as much).

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richpease
02-25-2006, 09:11 PM
Thanks. I think I'll stick with regular since I need to put the whole dual exhaust (pipes and mufflers) back on.

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr

Roscomacaw
02-26-2006, 01:15 PM
rich, there's some good, solid Lark fenders here in Central California but the place that has them is strictly "cash & carry". No shipping No way No how.
They were $50 apiece last time I asked but I haven't jumped on them because it's just something else I have to deal with hauling and storing. (Ugh![xx(])
But.... if you were coming by this way or knew someone with a truck that was............

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

richpease
02-26-2006, 08:12 PM
Thanks for the tip on the fenders, unfortunately they are just the tip of the iceberg with the 59. I can only afford to do one or the other :( and the 61 is much further along (actually runs, straight body, decent glass) than the 59. My plan is to finance the 61 by parting out the 59. I did swap seats today and the 61 looks 100% better with the split buckets than it did with the broken down bench. I also got the headlights and tailights working, but I still have no brake or turn signal lights. I'm going to start taking pics to document the whole thing and maybe I'll get her in shape for the coming Salt Lake Zone Meet.:D

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr

StudeRich
02-28-2006, 02:23 AM
Rich; the turn signal and stop light fuses are on the insulator board on left side of steering wheel under dash, I would start there. The stop fuse also works the dome light if the switches (door & on light) still work. There may be corrosion on terminals of the flasher unit or it could be bad or loose power wire etc. get a bright flashlight to get a good look under there and test the circuits with a test light. Also both the turn. sig. and stops are actually controlled by the turn sig. switch under steering wheel, stops only work when turn sw. is in neutral, if the sw.is worn or loose it may not disconnect left & right turn to allow stop lt. sw. to work. Also check it, by jumpering the 2 wires together. You have a very neat car:D if you own a '61 Cruiser, as it is very unique in that it has the cool look of the '59-'60 rear glass, but is taller and comes all the way down to the deck unlike the '59. The all other'61 sedans have that ugly (in my opinion) completely different rear glass. Take care of it though, that glass is a one-off, one model 61V-Y, one year only piece!:)

StudeRich
Ferndale, WA

richpease
02-28-2006, 07:36 PM
StudeRich, first of all great screen name - I would use it if you hadn't already gotten it [:p]. Second, thanks for the tip on the signals. I dropped the car of to get mufflers and pipes today so when I get it back I'll check that out over the weekend. What's the easiest way to get the steering wheel off in order to access the turn switches? The dome light works fine on the rear driver and both passenger doors, I think they unhooked the driver door, so the fuse must still be good. I also looked at the stop and turn bulb and both filaments looked ok.

I'm really excited about the exhaust, because my wife will no longer complain about the car being heard three miles away:D

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr

StudeRich
02-28-2006, 09:15 PM
Rich. you will need to buy a standard steering wheel puller, you use the small 1/4" bolts with the puller kit or buy them to pull a Stude. wheel. Your local NAPA or other "real auto parts store":) NOT accessories (junk)[V] auto parts store like Checker/Kragen/Schucks! should have em!

Rich. G.(at Studebakers Northwest) http://studebakersnorthwest.com





quote:Originally posted by richpease

StudeRich, first of all great screen name - I would use it if you hadn't already gotten it [:p]. Second, thanks for the tip on the signals. I dropped the car of to get mufflers and pipes today so when I get it back I'll check that out over the weekend. What's the easiest way to get the steering wheel off in order to access the turn switches? Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr


StudeRich
Ferndale, WA

richpease
02-28-2006, 09:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

Rich. you will need to buy a standard steering wheel puller, you use the small 1/4" bolts with the puller kit or buy them to pull a Stude. wheel. Your local NAPA or other "real auto parts store":) NOT accessories (junk)[V] auto parts store like Checker/Kragen/Schucks! should have em!

Rich. G.(at Studebakers Northwest) http://studebakersnorthwest.com





quote:Originally posted by richpease

StudeRich, first of all great screen name - I would use it if you hadn't already gotten it [:p]. Second, thanks for the tip on the signals. I dropped the car of to get mufflers and pipes today so when I get it back I'll check that out over the weekend. What's the easiest way to get the steering wheel off in order to access the turn switches? Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr


StudeRich
Ferndale, WA
Rich,

Thanks for your help. I was looking at your website, do you have any 61 bumpers or full wheel covers?

Rich

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr

richpease
03-02-2006, 08:22 PM
Well, I took the Cruiser in to have mufflers and exhaust added as well as having the brakes bled while it was up on the hoist. Good news, pipes and mufflers are done :D Bad news, all four wheel cylinders are shot and the inner u-bolt on both sides are gone. [V] Good news - SASCO has what I need far cheaper than any local guy :D Bad news - they can't ship them until next Wednesday :(

I have started taking pics of the car and am hosting an album on webshots, the url is http://community.webshots.com/user/richpease

Since I am on a limited budget, this will be a multi-year project, but I'll keep posting as I go.

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr

N8N
03-03-2006, 05:10 AM
Those brake lines on the axle are kind of cute as well... might want to consider replacing those with something actually cut to length... just a thought

also you may want to remove and carefully store that driver's side taillight lens until you're done with your resto; those are gold...

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

richpease
03-04-2006, 11:18 PM
Nate,

Thanks for the tips. I'm going to tackle the brake line this week. As for the taillight lens, it's actually been broken and repaired once. I'm trying to find some replacements, but it seems from the discussions I've read that my best option is to modify some 59 lenses and pray that I can find the original in somebody's attic. :)

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr

StudeRich
03-05-2006, 01:56 AM
Hi Rich. this is StudeRich, Yup, that's the car I saw on e-bay ! I am not sure, but I thought it was in Colorado or Utah. It had a replacement 289 full flow block from a '63 and no exhaust, also showed original paint in trunk that was the pale yellow color and had that wrong front panel from a '63 on it, or somehow someone had stuck a '63 Grille on the '61 Panel which is different than '63 because of the depth from hood to grille and I asked him if the '61 mouldings would go back on the front panel because of the wrong depth, I didn't think so, he had no clue what I meant. But he didn't even know it was a Cruiser or that the Grille and or panel were wrong! He was moving on to a pickup resto or something and selling it, I guess the buyer did not keep it. Interesting car, it looks a bit more green in your pic's than it did on his, they were very blue, but I guess that is common in various lighting, cameras and monitors (mine is set for "high 24 bit color" and 1024X768 Pixels and seems correct.) I also see that it had the rare & new for '61 option (only on Cruiser), a 289 engine! I guess that from the finned drums and model 44 rear axle. Amazing what a pic can do!
We have a few '61 (black trim)type wheelcovers (used) in stock also more of the same shape, different paint for '59-'60 Larks, very few of the '61-'63 bumpers with the flattened center, and I don't want to ship them-pickup only. Contact me at rich@studebakersnorthwest.com



quote:Originally posted by richpease

Nate,

Thanks for the tips. I'm going to tackle the brake line this week. As for the taillight lens, it's actually been broken and repaired once. I'm trying to find some replacements, but it seems from the discussions I've read that my best option is to modify some 59 lenses and pray that I can find the original in somebody's attic. :)

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr


StudeRich
Ferndale, WA

richpease
03-05-2006, 01:55 PM
StudeRich,

Sure enough, a closer look prompted by your post confirms that its a 63 front panel. The hood doesn't match up right and the only thing holding it down is the hood release, not the latch.:( When I bought the car I really didn't look too close at some of it, lesson learned. At some point I guess I'm going to have to buy a 61 front panel and swap it out so it fits right.

The car was in Medical Lake, WA and the owner had indeed moved on to a Champ project. He was making a custom rod of some sort out of it. Needless to say, he mentioned nothing about some parts being from a 63. Maybe thats why he was so willing to take half of what he listed it in the paper for[?]

Oh well, it's still a great car and will be better once it's a bit more original.:D

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr

studegary
03-05-2006, 06:20 PM
When you look for a front panel for it, be advised that there are three different ones for 1961 Larks. You want one for either a Cruiser or a non-convertible Regal model. Of course, the rare optional dual headlight optioned Deluxe would also have the correct panel. You could use a convertible panel, but a standard Deluxe model (with single headlights) panel would be incorrect on your Cruiser.

StudeRich
03-10-2006, 02:23 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4619879073 Or go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4619879073 (This LINK is to an E-Bay Motors Studebaker car for sale ad. -for those that want to know where they will be taken!)

HEY Rich Pease! If I did this right, you should see a pic of what your car will look like, when you get the "Deep" front panel off and replaced with a "shallow" '61 type one. This Deluxe model has the optional windshield and rear glass mouldings as well as dual headlights like your (Regal type) Cruiser should have.
Rich. G.:)


quote:Originally posted by richpease

StudeRich,

Sure enough, a closer look prompted by your post confirms that its a 63 front panel. The hood doesn't match up right and the only thing holding it down is the hood release, not the latch.:( When I bought the car I really didn't look too close at some of it, lesson learned. At some point I guess I'm going to have to buy a 61 front panel and swap it out so it fits right.

The car was in Medical Lake, WA and the owner had indeed moved on to a Champ project. He was making a custom rod of some sort out of it. Needless to say, he mentioned nothing about some parts being from a 63. Maybe thats why he was so willing to take half of what he listed it in the paper for[?]

Oh well, it's still a great car and will be better once it's a bit more original.:D

Rich Pease
Ogden, UT
59 Lark 2dr
61 Lark 4dr


StudeRich
Ferndale, WA