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tstclr
01-24-2006, 11:33 AM
Can anyone tell me the difference between a 1962 Lark fender and a 63? I found a 62 and wonder if it will fit my 63.
Thanks
Todd


63 Lark 2dr Sedan

N8N
01-24-2006, 11:52 AM
all fenders are the same 61-66 with only trim changes. It will fit fine and I don't think you will have to change anything, trim/letters/etc are the same 62-63.

nate

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JDP
01-24-2006, 12:06 PM
Huh ?? 64-66 are the same, not 61-66.

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Roscomacaw
01-24-2006, 12:19 PM
Todd, that 62 fender will work fine on your '63.;)

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1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
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Jessie J.
01-24-2006, 12:29 PM
Todd didn't specify front or rear fenders, '62-'63 fronts do interchange, and the rear quarters (fenders) are interchangeable from '62-'66

N8N
01-24-2006, 12:47 PM
Duh. you are right, I was thinking front fender and shape of cowl. any fender 61-66 will bolt to any car 61-66 but yes the front edge of the fender changed in 64. so for a 63 you would want a 61-63 front fender preferably 62-63 so you don't have to fill trim holes. The rear quarter is the same 62-66; the '61 still had the "stubby" body style.

nate

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tstclr
01-24-2006, 12:56 PM
Sorry for not being clear on front or rear. It is front I am asking about. I thought I read somewhere that since the cowls were changed for the non wraparound windshields for 63 the fenders wouldn't fit from a 62.. The fellow selling this fender has listed it for 60-62 only so it raised a red flag.

Todd


63 Lark 2dr Sedan

Roscomacaw
01-24-2006, 01:05 PM
The 62 will fit fine.;)

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

N8N
01-24-2006, 01:07 PM
That listing isn't correct; 59-60 are different, 61-63 are the same. Yes the windshield is different in '63 but that doesn't affect the shape of the front of the cowl. I guess Stude only had so much money each year for sheetmetal changes so they redesigned the car a little bit at a time, which means that stuff is interchangeable that you might not think would be. You could put a '66 front clip on a '61 if you wanted, it would bolt right up.

You could actually use '61-63 fenders on a '59-60 or vice versa, but the shape of the fender right behind the front wheel is different, so it would look a little odd. The rest of it is pretty much the same.

nate

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Swifster
01-24-2006, 01:53 PM
OK, first a few disclaimers...[:o)]

1) I will never say that I know enough about these cars to say someone else is wrong. I've always been a 'by the numbers' kind of guy. But if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

2) The following is based on information out of the '59-'64 parts book.

All fenders from '59-'64 show a seperate part number. This implies there are differences between years. What those differences are, it doesn't mention. It could be nothing more than a possible change in supplier, or it could be...?

Again, this isn't to imply the information is wrong, just that each has a seperate part number.

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studegary
01-24-2006, 02:19 PM
The front fenders from 1959 to 1963 are similar, but not all the same. The different part numbers are mainly due to trim hole placement. The physical difference lies at the lower rear of the fender (the last three inches). The early ('59-'60) fenders had a wide section to match the wide rocker panel and the later ('61-'63) fenders have the narrow section to match the narrow rocker panels. 1964-1966 fenders will bolt on, but have an entirely different shape/pressing. The net is that a 1962 fender will fit your 1963.

N8N
01-24-2006, 02:22 PM
I'm not aware of ANY difference whatsoever between a '62 and '63 front fender, wonder why the part nos. are different?

nate

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Roscomacaw
01-24-2006, 02:24 PM
difference in trim holes![:I]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

N8N
01-24-2006, 02:43 PM
I'm trying to think what trim holes could be different and I'm coming up dry. They use the same stainless and the same "LARK" letters...

nate

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Swifster
01-24-2006, 03:03 PM
The part numbers are also different by model. Hardtops and convertibles, year to year, are different than other models. The same with sedans. I would think holes on replacement panels would not be drilled until delivered. As it is, there are 2/3 different fenders listed for '64 models alone.

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Tom - Sterling Heights, MI

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studegary
01-24-2006, 03:06 PM
I am trying to remember, did the 1963 SuperLarks have R badges on the lower rear of the front fenders like the SuperHawks did? Then these fenders would have a different part number. Remember that all emblems then required holes, not adhesive <G>.

tstclr
01-24-2006, 04:05 PM
So, can anyone tell me if this fender has the '60 style lower portion or the 62 style lower portion. This is a fibreglass fender btw. I'd really rather rust free steel fenders but there is slim pickin's up here in Ontario...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c351/tstclr/fender.jpg

Todd

63 Lark 2dr Sedan

2R5
01-24-2006, 05:07 PM
Todd , I'd say that was a 59, 60 fender.

N8N
01-24-2006, 05:09 PM
If this is a fiberglass fender, it probably has the early style lower bit behind the wheel, but hopefully if it came off a '62 whoever originally installed it did the appropriate bodywork to make it match the rocker panel. If not, it's really no big deal if you've worked with fiberglass before.

I personally kind of like the idea of fiberglass fenders. Rust sucks.

nate

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studegary
01-25-2006, 03:34 PM
The picture appears to be of a 1959-1960 style fender. It won't be correct, but will not look bad on a 1963. If you want it right, you could alter that lower area that meets the rocker panel.

tstclr
01-25-2006, 06:04 PM
Thanks for the input. Are there correct fibreglass fenders available for the 62-3?

Todd


63 Lark 2dr Sedan

Roscomacaw
01-25-2006, 06:23 PM
Tom,

The holes for the trim were pre-drilled - even if the fenders were smililar in shape. The prongs on the letters aren't forgiving and if the holes some body shop drilled weren't SPOT on, then there'd be a problem in the fit of the emblems.

The ragtops and the sliding roof wagons have a different fender in that it has a tab on the back edge of the wheel opening that accomodates a stiffener/rod to the firewall. This because the center-point mounting of the "doghouse" on these models made the front fenders want to flutter at speed. It's a supplement to the hamonic balance weights these body styles used in the front panel.

N8N - you're correct on the trim holes of 62 vs. 63. Looking at the book, the inner aprons and air deflector (the piece behind the headlite) are different for 62 as opposed to 63. Possibly there is some accomodation to mate with those different inner panels that calls for the year-specific part numbers for what otherwise appears to be the same fender. I've got a 63 and a 62 fender here. I'll have to get them side-by-side and see what I can detect.;)

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

garyash
01-26-2006, 01:07 PM
Todd, if you want fberglass fenders, call Dan Webber in Gaithersburg, Maryland some evening. His phone is in the SDC roster. Email me if you need it.

Dan has the molds to make the Lark fenders through '63. He can make the various versions that had the different bottom edges. Dan is the guy that has the tables at Reedsville and York selling used tools.

Gary Ash
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