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ddub
01-23-2006, 05:27 PM
I am working on an early 53 Commander Starlinner. It had been striped of chrome trim as had many of these cars. Did all of these have the "Commander" script on the trunk. The unmolested one I had in the '60's did not have this script and I seem to recall reading that they were not always present on the early cars. BTW it was assembled in LA.

Don W

studegary
01-23-2006, 05:44 PM
Prototypes and VERY early production cars did not have the Commander nameplate. Shortly after production started, all '53 Commanders had the Commander name on the trunk lid (installed at an angle). The Automatic Drive nameplate on the trunk was an option on cars with automatic. LA/Vernon cars did have some variations from South Bend cars. For example, early monotone/single color cars from Vernon could have the Studebaker nameplate on the C-pillar. Only two-tone cars from South Bend had this nameplate.

When was your car assembled in Vernon? What is the serial number? Is the C-pillar seam filled? What style of package tray does it have (of at least three variations)?

ddub
01-23-2006, 11:18 PM
I'll check those things out and let you know soon.

ddub
01-24-2006, 12:46 AM
Serial #8832671. Ship date was 6/8/53. I'll check the other two items tomorrow.

Roscomacaw
01-24-2006, 01:03 PM
That's a late enough assembly date that it ought to have filled seams, a cardboard package tray and the Commander script, I would think.
My '53 Commander Coupe (Vernon-built) came with those 3 features. Of course it's order was written August 12th, '53 and the ship date was Sept 9th, '53. A pretty late unit.:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

studegary
01-24-2006, 02:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by ddub

Serial #8832671. Ship date was 6/8/53. I'll check the other two items tomorrow.


Your car could NOT be considered an early 1953. Vernon/LA 1953 Commander serial numbers ran from 8826801 to 8836800. As you can see, your car is closer to the end of 1953 production than the begining of production. To answer your initial question, your car should have a Commander nameplate on the trunk.

ddub
01-24-2006, 11:15 PM
Seam is filled, cardboard package tray. By early I was referring to tri-star vs V on hood and trunk.

Thanks for the input folks. One more piece of trim to buy.:)

Don Wilson

Roscomacaw
01-25-2006, 12:21 PM
We've hashed this out before. And I belive this was the concensus we came to: South Bend and Canadian-built 53s had a change from the Tri-star to the "V" in the course of the model year. Los Angeles production used the tri-star on both the hood and deck lid thru the whole '53 model year.
The parts books - both the chassis (since that's where the hood's found) and the body book (since that's where the trunk lid's found) make note of the point of change in South Bend and Hamilton serial# sequences. The Los Angeles serial numbers are conspicuosly NOT mentioned. The conclusion has to be that ALL LA-built '53s came with the Tri-star emblem on them. And given the fact that my Commander's SO late in the production run and has the tri-star on it, almost certainly, they used said emblem til the last car of that model year was out the door.;)

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

ddub
01-25-2006, 03:35 PM
Thanks for all the input. Now I wonder if you know how long the tri-star style hub caps were used?

studegary
01-25-2006, 04:04 PM
quote:Originally posted by ddub

Thanks for all the input. Now I wonder if you know how long the tri-star style hub caps were used?


I will first assume that you mean wheelcovers with the three raised sections on them. Starliners came standard with hub caps, but most had wheelcovers. There is no simple answer to your question. The tri-star style are correct on all '53s and a very few early 1954s. With that said, wheelcovers could be factory equipment or authorized dealer add-on accessory items. The 1953 Accessory catalog shows the '54-'55 smooth style wheelcovers. For 1953, there was also the wire wheel look conversion (commonly called Speedster covers). The Sportster wheelcover with the simulated knock off hub is only correct for 1954s.