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desertdoc
12-27-2005, 11:24 PM
I have been looking for a complete set of gauges for my two 64's. I have some with black faces and some with a dark green anodized aluminum face. Which one is for 64 or are both? Did they make clock faces in the green?
Thanks
desertdoc

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Roscomacaw
12-27-2005, 11:50 PM
The green's right for '64 and yes, they did make a clock to match. Interestingly, the clock hole fillers for that year came with 3 different style faces. I've seen them with just "STUDEBAKER" on them as well as STUDEBAKER OF CANADA and STUDEBAKER CORPORATION.
Black-face is '63.:D

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1955 President State
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StudeDave57
12-27-2005, 11:52 PM
Your backrounds ought to be green- all of them! The black ones are from an earlier year... not sure which, 'cause I don't have one of 'em! You can use gauges from '64-'66 for your cars.
[8D]

StudeDave
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander 2dr
'57 Champion 2dr
'65 Cruiser

Swifster
12-28-2005, 11:51 AM
A question from the peanut gallery. Studebaker used red tinted bulbs with these green faced gauges. Opinions on the appearance? Readability of the gauges at night? Readability of the switch icons? My Daytona cluster still has the red bulbs in the sockets.

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Tom - Sterling Heights, MI

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1964 Studebaker Daytona - Laguna Blue, Original 4-Spd. Car, Power Steering, Disc Brakes, Bucket Seats, Tinted Glass, Climatizer Ventilation System, AM Radio (136,989 Miles)

DEEPNHOCK
12-28-2005, 12:07 PM
I buy regular flaps bulbs and swipe the wife's nail polish...
I think the nail polish actually makes the bulbs last longer.
Red's my color..
Jeff (Night Vision, you know..)Rice [8D]



quote:Originally posted by Swifster

A question from the peanut gallery. Studebaker used red tinted bulbs with these green faced gauges. Opinions on the appearance? Readability of the gauges at night? Readability of the switch icons? My Daytona cluster still has the red bulbs in the sockets.

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Tom - Sterling Heights, MI

Ancient Chinese Proverb: "Injection is nice, but I'd rather be blown!"

1964 Studebaker Daytona - Laguna Blue, Original 4-Spd. Car, Power Steering, Disc Brakes, Bucket Seats, Tinted Glass, Climatizer Ventilation System, AM Radio (136,989 Miles)



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StudeDave57
12-28-2005, 03:47 PM
My Cruiser has some of those red bulbs from Stude Int'l- they are great! Yes, they are sometimes hard to read at night, but that's what the rheostat is for! If it works you can adjust the brightness when the inst. lights are on 'low'.
[8D]

StudeDave
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander 2dr
'57 Champion 2dr
'65 Cruiser

Skip Lackie
12-28-2005, 05:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

The green's right for '64 and yes, they did make a clock to match. Interestingly, the clock hole fillers for that year came with 3 different style faces. I've seen them with just "STUDEBAKER" on them as well as STUDEBAKER OF CANADA and STUDEBAKER CORPORATION.
Black-face is '63.:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS


For once I'm gonna hafta disagree with Mr Biggs. I certainly agree that used 64 gauges always have a green tint to their anodized metallic backgrounds. But the color of brand new 64 gauges is a very dark gray, almost black. In other words, the green ones are just faded from the sun. I checked the part numbers on the boxes containing several NOS 64 gauges, including a clock, a speedo and a complete cluster of the small gauges, and they all have the same very dark metallic gray background. I don't have any 63 gauges, NOS or otherwise, but I believe they have a black background with a pattern resembling a red plus sign that is centered on the gauge. As I recall, they don't have the anodized metallic look of the 64s.
Skip Lackie
54 3R6 pickup
59 4E40 flatbed dump
64 Daytona hardtop
74 Avanti II

N8N
12-28-2005, 07:41 PM
Here is a pic of a NOS speedo and cluster gauge (that came with a car I bought from Skip, yet) for reference of what this green/grey color should look like.

http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel/images/convert/2004_11_20_0032.JPG

They look like they have a green tint to me, but they are quite a bit darker than what most people are used to looking at.

Skip is right, the '63 gauges have black faces with the red "+" in the background. 61-62 look just like '63, but without the "+" and the combo gauge has idiot lights for generator and oil pressure rather than actual gauges. Some 61-62 cars used white gauges with black numbers - I don't exactly recall which trim levels used which. I can tell you my '62 Daytona used black faced gauges. All are the same size and are physically interchangeable (although I don't see why you'd want to use 61-62 gauges in a 63-66 car, you *could* if you really wanted to, if you rewired appropriately.)

nate

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StudeDave57
12-28-2005, 07:46 PM
NICE speedo!!! It's all I can say right now... too busy rollin' around on the floor for how that sounds! [:0]

[8D]

StudeDave
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander 2dr
'57 Champion 2dr
'65 Cruiser

Roscomacaw
12-28-2005, 07:58 PM
Skip, I've recently gotten some of the clock blanks from SASCO simply because I wanted some nice, new bezels for some instrument clusters I was redoing. I just dug one out to look. I'd always taken them for deep metallic green. I agree they look almost charcoal but they DO fade out to an unmistakable green color in pretty short order.
the 63s are indeed, black faced with white lettering and red needles.

http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/1137171192042_S2400305.JPG

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Skip Lackie
12-29-2005, 02:11 PM
I guess I need a better light (or younger eyes!) to detect the faint greenish tinge in the NOS gauges. On the other hand, the tendency to rapidly fade to green can be very useful in determining if a 64 gauge is NOS or used.
Skip