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50starlite
12-18-2005, 10:49 AM
What advantage, if any, can I expect with the installation of a front stabilizer kit on my 1950 Champion. It was suggested by my mechanic but I'm thinking "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I know I need a right inner tie rod end to take care of of some steering play and he suggested the kit might also help.

Thanks,
Dick

Roscomacaw
12-18-2005, 01:52 PM
By "Front Stabilizer Bar" - do you mean "Sway Bar"???[?] Because a '50 Champion should already have a sway bar incorporated on it standard.[:I]
Admittedly, it's probably wimpy by today's standards but it's better than having none.:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

50starlite
12-18-2005, 04:48 PM
Mr. Biggs,

My shop manual notes it as a stabilizer shaft, I'd say it's also a "Sway Bar". A rose is a rose.... Anyway, the kit consists of the vertical shaft bracket assembly on each end of the horiz. sway bar.

The car already has a front sway bar assembly, this would be a repair kit for the same.

Thanks for your reply,

Dick

N8N
12-18-2005, 06:20 PM
the "repair kit" I assume would just be four bushings, as none of the vehicles before the early 60's used a frame mounted sway bar. Might as well go ahead and do it; it probably won't reduce play in the wheel, but it will reduce body roll, which would be a Good Thing(tm)

I am not sure if a '63-64 sway bar would bolt on to your frame or not, never having looked too closely at anything pre-'53. However, if it would, it might make a nice upgrade. I have a '63-64 sway bar on the front of my '55 coupe, along with the rear bar from a '55 sedan, makes a world of difference.

nate

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Roscomacaw
12-18-2005, 08:58 PM
Looking at the parts book illustration, it looks like the parts you speak of are nothing more than long hex-head bolts and 4 rubber bushings (which look like the bushings that go in the top of front end shock absorbers![:0])(HAH! I just checked part numbers and it DOES USE the same rubber grommet that the shock tops use!!!:D)
Of course, there's the two bushings that hold the bar to the frame by virtue of the two metal clamps.
I'd think some good grade 8 bolts and 8 new shock grommets would constitute this "kit" you speak of - or is there more than that that's worn or missing???[:I]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

50starlite
12-19-2005, 12:54 PM
You got it Mr. Biggs! All the kit consists of is 4 rubber busings and the long shaft x two. While I'm doing the tie rod ends I think I'llgo ahead and upgrade the sway bar, as Nate suggested.

Thanks,
Dick

Roscomacaw
12-19-2005, 04:57 PM
Dick, the sway bar that Nate speaks of is not going to be a bolt-on deal. It looks nothing like the one on your '50.
I'm not saying it couldn't be MADE to work, but it's not "interchangeable" with yours. The one Nate's talking about doesn't have any "links" to attach it to the lower A-arms. It fits right along the front edge of the lower control arms and attaches to them via rubber bushings that are clamped to the leading edges of the A-arms.
It may well be possible to adapt it but not without some "engineering" involved.:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

50starlite
12-19-2005, 06:05 PM
Mr. Biggs,

Right. Mine has links and that is what the kit replaces.

Dick

N8N
12-19-2005, 07:38 PM
Ah... I was envisioning the front sway bar on a '53 and I ASSumed that since a '50 Champ had a similar front suspension that the sway bar was similar. I don't have a parts book that early so I was guessing. Sounds like the setup you have should work better than the bar that I was imagining you had; I'd just go ahead and put new rubber on it unless you really have the itch to modify some stuff.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
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Roscomacaw
12-19-2005, 07:56 PM
Yeah Nate, this thing's akin to what Avantis had at the rear.
A W I D E U-shape bar with ears on each end to recieve the "links" that reach down to ears on the front of the lower A-arms. Starting with '51, the bars were basically what was used thru to the end.:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

N8N
12-19-2005, 08:39 PM
sounds like a "normal" sway bar then, at least what I'm used to seeing on my brand-x cars. what's the diameter of that bar, just curious? Wonder why they switched; sounds like that was a theoretically better design than anything they used later up until '63 or so.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
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50starlite
12-20-2005, 09:55 AM
I can't get to my Starlight right now because of a full knee replacement about six days ago. I'd guess it's about 3/4" dia. and "U" shaped as Mr. Biggs said. Pretty basic.

Plans for the car in Jan. or Feb. are: Install sway bar kit, replace all inner/outer tie rods ends, replace its second set of bias tires with steel belted radials, check and reset all lifters and install new intake and exhaust gaskets, have front end aligned, install front seat belts.

Thanks for all the help guys, and have a Merry Christmas!

Dick

Roscomacaw
12-20-2005, 02:59 PM
Dick,

Having your personal "ball joints" replaced, eh?[:0] Amazing how common that is nowdays!

Here's hopin' you're back under that Starlight soon. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year back at ya!;):D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS