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CHAMP
11-13-2005, 06:38 PM
When trying to pump gas in my 48 studebaker champion I have to jack up the left side to get it to take any fuel and it takes 20-30 minutes to fill up the tank. Any comments or solutions?

N8N
11-13-2005, 07:20 PM
Have you checked the rubber hose between the filler neck and the tank? I have seen them so soft and gooey that they are collapsed on themselves.

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CHAMP
11-13-2005, 07:40 PM
filler neck is metal

Roscomacaw
11-13-2005, 07:47 PM
There's a seperate little vent line that allows air off the very top of the tank to exit as you put gas in. It goes from the very top edge of the fuel tank (on the left side) to the upper portion of the gas filler line. That vent line is metal but connects at either end with a small piece of rubber tubing. Either one of those tubes could be collapsed or clogged with dirt to where that line can't effect venting.
Check this and get back to us!;)

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JDP
11-13-2005, 10:06 PM
The neck is metal, but is there not a hose joining it to the tank ?

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whacker
11-14-2005, 12:06 AM
Yes, the filler is metal, but there is a short length of rubber hose at the bottom of the filler that joins it to the gas tank. It has two hose clamps holding it in place. It is a bitch to get that little piece of hose out and replaced properly, but a crimped or rotten hose will give you exactly the syptoms you describe. These little hoses are available from several vendors, cost about $15.00 + shipping. Replacing it will expand your vocabulary.

52hawk
11-14-2005, 09:09 AM
I just did this job on a Ford van. Bought a universal fuel hose[about 2" diameter]from O'Riellys.-cost was $6 per foot.[this material is a lot different than radiator hose,radiator hose won't hold up to gasoline]

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Roscomacaw
11-14-2005, 12:48 PM
If this fella CAN get fuel in the car by jacking up one corner of the car, I doubt his jacking the car forces open the fuel filler pipe connection. More likely, there's no venting.:D

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Dwain G.
11-14-2005, 12:56 PM
I believe the filler neck on '47-'48 models is attached directly to the tank (no hose). The coupling hose appeared in '49. Here is a picture of the VENT hose referred to earlier:

http://home.comcast.net/~jdwain/gastank.jpg

First, verify the vent is open and unrestricted. After that it may be neccessary to shim the tank slightly to raise the left rear (or lower the right front).

Dwain G.

CHAMP
11-14-2005, 08:09 PM
FUEL INLET IS ONE PEICE OF METAL FROM INLET TO FUEL TANK. HAVE BLOWN AIR THROUGH SMALL VENT HOLE IN FILLER NECK AND IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE ANY OBSTUCTION.PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT SHIMMING FUEL TANK THANKS AGAIN CHAMP

Roscomacaw
11-14-2005, 08:27 PM
Have you actualy TRIED putting gas in since you blew the vent line clear? It wouldn't take a very stubborn clog of that line to cause your troubles. If you haven't tried adding fuel yet, I'd do so before fiddling with shims.:D

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CHAMP
11-14-2005, 08:36 PM
YES I HAVE REFUELED SINSE BLOWING VENT OUT WITH NO CHANGE.FIRST 5 TO 6 GALLONS GOES IN PRETTY WELL , AFTER THAT IT IS VERY,VERY,VERY SLOW THANKS FOR EVERYBODYS INPUT CHAMP

Roscomacaw
11-14-2005, 09:22 PM
OK then - how about some floating piece of debris that eventually gets pressed against the vent outlet and stops it up? There has to be something wrong as I've never heard of this being a problem common to this model.
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CHAMP
11-14-2005, 09:39 PM
TOMORROW I PLAN TO REPLACE BOTH VENT HOSES AND DO A COMPLETE INSPECTION OF FUEL TANK. IT DOES BUBBLE AND GARGLE A LOT OUT OF VENT WHILE FUELING. THANKS SO MUCH CHAMP

CHAMP
11-15-2005, 08:00 AM
I AM GETTING READY TO WORK ON 48 STUDE. WITH REFUELING PROBLEM, I AM CORIOUS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT SHIMMING FUEL TANK.THANKS CHAMP.

CHAMP
11-15-2005, 03:12 PM
TODAY I GOT UNDER THE OLD 48 STUDE. AND PULLED OFF THE VENT TUBE AND HOSES. THE HOSE AT THE TANK LOOKED LIKE IT COULD VERY WELL BE THE ORIGINAL, IT WAS PARTIALY BLOCKED AND IN BAD SHAPE.I REPLACED THE WHOLE ASSEMBLY.JUST GOT BACK FROM GAS STATION AND FILLED IT UP WITH NO PROBLEM. THANKS EVERYBODY FOR YOUR INPUT CHAMP

Roscomacaw
11-17-2005, 02:18 PM
Great to hear!:D Thanks for reporting back with the cure. It helps others that might have the same problem;)

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