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kmul221
09-06-2005, 11:23 AM
I need to change upper inner control arm bushings in 63 GT .It looks simple in shop manual,is there anything I should be aware of that is not in the manual?I also noticed the bolts that hold the LOWER bushings in place(going through the bushing into the shaft) were VERY LOOSE ! what would cause bolt to loosen & how tight should they be(torque)The lower bushings on both sides appear to be replacements.Any tips appreciated

prager
09-06-2005, 02:35 PM
The bushings look easy, but I my experience on my Lark. I had to play around a little. I removed the upper arms, took a torch, burned out the rubber. Then took a saber saw and cut out the bushing metal. I then took the new bushing put on some never sieze, braced the arm on an anvil and took a bfh and beat them in, you need to be careful not to bend the arm. I put all back in and torqued to book specs. The lower bushings are kinda along the same lines. On either when you get the rubber good and hot the guts will pull right out and you can eaisly cut out the metal sleeve. Hope this helps!!

JDP
09-06-2005, 04:06 PM
N8 and I have it down to a science using a air chisel to drive them out in minutes. We made a tool to brace the A frame and one to drive them in. The bolts should only be tightened with the car on the ground.

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Roscomacaw
09-06-2005, 05:38 PM
I do it like JDP says. Of course, an air chisel is nice but you could use hammer and chisel if you don't have an adequate compressor.
I don't know that Never-Sieze buys you anything on the shells of those bushings, but loc-tite on the shaft bolts will keep them from backing out. (And I have seen cars where those bolts have completely fallen out - the results aren't pretty!)
And be DAMNED sure to use new self-locking nuts on the 8 bolts that hold the lower control arms to the frame. I've seen more than one Stude with those lower control shafts flopping around![xx(] A recipie for disaster:(

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gordr
09-06-2005, 06:07 PM
kmul,

If you intend to remove the upper control arm completely, you will have to acquire or make a suitable spreader tool to re-istall the upper OUTER bushings as described in the shop manual. Chuck Collins <www.studebakerparts.com> is the website I think, sells them.

It can be done without such a tool, if you are very careful and/or very lucky, but it is way too easy to get the bushings cross-threaded or otherwise put into a bind, which will cause their early demise.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

Roscomacaw
09-06-2005, 07:39 PM
I've actualy changed the inner bushings without disassembling the whole suspension assembly. It takes two pairs of hands, but it can be done.[:I]

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1957 President 2-dr
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1963 Daytona project FS

mtdoraford
09-08-2005, 08:13 AM
Control arm bushing removal the easy way. I took both the upper and lower control arms to a good engine shop and had all pressed out for $5.00 and the new ones pressed in at the same time. I don't like the smell of burning rubber!!! But, if your going this far, I would double check the king pins and I would use new grade 8 bolts, nuts and washers. It is a job that will take the better part of a day, unless your a front end specialist and have done it before.

mtdoraford
09-08-2005, 08:15 AM
That was $5.00 a bushing.

blackhawk
09-10-2005, 04:16 AM
The times that I have replaced these bushings, I have used my Handiman jack and appropriately sized sockets to press them in, after Installing a homemade spacer of course so I don't bend the arm. I clamp the jack in my table vise to hold it still. This works well. Sort of a poor man's press.

Dale

blackhawk
09-10-2005, 04:26 AM
quote:Originally posted by gordr

kmul,

If you intend to remove the upper control arm completely, you will have to acquire or make a suitable spreader tool to re-istall the upper OUTER bushings as described in the shop manual. Chuck Collins <www.studebakerparts.com> is the website I think, sells them.

It can be done without such a tool, if you are very careful and/or very lucky, but it is way too easy to get the bushings cross-threaded or otherwise put into a bind, which will cause their early demise.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
I agree. I made my own spreader tool. The one time I didn't get enough spacing on these bushings, it made them VERY hard to grease. These haven't failed and have many years and miles on them, but they are a real pain to grease, even with low temperature grease, a pressure gun, and the car warmed to room temperature. All the other times I have changed these bushings, I have gotten it right and they are easy to grease and move more freely.

Dale