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DilloCrafter
08-28-2005, 03:21 PM
Does anyone know an estimated weight of a Champion Six engine, with a 3 spd manual transmission attached?

Here is a photo of one that I may have shipped to me, and I need an estimated weight for trucking company bids:
http://i19.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/c2/a3/ad_1_b.JPG

There is no driveshaft attached (picture cut off so you couldn't really tell).

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup

DilloCrafter
08-28-2005, 04:02 PM
I just now read in an old Turning Wheels that the shipping weight of the E5 Truck (1/2 ton, 6 cyl) was 2695 lbs., vs. the E7 (1/2 ton, V8) at 2970 lbs. So, a truck with a six is 275 lbs. lighter than the same truck with a V8 engine.

If I knew the approx. weight of a V8 (259) with or without the transmission attached, I could get in the ballpark. It would help to know the transmission weight, as well.

Thanks

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup

Transtar60
08-28-2005, 09:39 PM
The only reference I have handy is the 1963 8E truck spec book.
The OHV six is listed as 504 lbs dry w/clutch.
The 259 V8 is listed as 710 lbs dry w/clutch.

I would guess the FH six by itself would be about 60- 80lbs lighter than the OHV. I've moved some of them OHV six heads around and they aint light!

DilloCrafter
08-28-2005, 11:20 PM
Thanks, Transtar60. I'll just subtract 275 lbs. from the 259 V8 weight you listed (since the 259 was about the same in '63 as it was in '55), and that puts the flathead six at approx. 435 lbs.

Anyone know how much weight I should tack on for the starter and 3 spd transmission?

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup

1949commander
08-30-2005, 09:23 AM
I seem to remember reading in a book that the 39 Champion Engine and Transmission together weighed in at a bit less than 500 lbs. It was one lightweight engine/trans combo for the late 30's. So I'd say the weight you have is about right and it looks like the tranny is w/o overdrive so 500 should be close.

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DilloCrafter
08-30-2005, 11:30 AM
Thanks, guys, for the help.

I had to outbid a couple other eBay users to win it last night. I do hope the total estimated cost of the item and shipping of $425 will prove to be worth it. I think so, since there are so many parts attached, and the present owner says it appears to be rebuilt. Main thing is that the engine number is for a 1955 truck, same as mine.

But my truck engine is a darker blue than this one. I understand there was only one color blue (Alberta blue) used for truck engines in 1955. Does this one look the right color, or does it appear to have been repainted a lighter blue, as in when it may have been rebuilt?

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup

Transtar60
08-30-2005, 06:07 PM
Dillocrafter I would guess the engine has been rebuilt or at least pulled at least once before since the tranny is painted same as the engine. Normaly the only paint on the tranny would be overspray, usually so light you wouldnt see it in a picture.