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TTodd
07-31-2005, 07:44 PM
Will the backing plates and parts from a 1960 Lark VI interchange with a 1961 Lark VI.

Thanks Tony

61 Lark
61 Lark Cruser VIII

studegary
07-31-2005, 07:48 PM
Yes, but I would prefer to use Lark VIII parts.

TTodd
07-31-2005, 08:00 PM
Good deal I have the chance to but the backking plates complete with all new brake parts from a unfinished project for a good price.

Thanks Tony

61 Lark
61 Lark Cruser VIII

Roscomacaw
08-01-2005, 01:11 AM
From '54 thru '66 everything will interchange so long as it's 6 cylinder or 8 and drum brakes. And you can install 8 cyl brakes on a 6 if you have all the parts to do the swap. 8 cylinder brakes are much more efficient by virtue of the increased square inches of braking surface. ;)

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

hank63
08-01-2005, 11:11 AM
The only "negative" seems to be the asbestos-free linings. Supposed to be so great, environmentally speaking, but the brake pedal is never the same again. With these new linings, I have found the pedal softer and the brakes a touch spongier. Am I the only one, or have others the same experience?
/H

rockne10
08-01-2005, 08:51 PM
Back up a few more years, Mr.Biggs. I put 1961 brakes on my 51 Commander and 1963 brakes on my 53 Commander. Those early fifties brakes were notoriously weak for the weight of the car and the upgrade is highly recommended.

N8N
08-01-2005, 09:22 PM
Hank, I have heard that as well but I just redid the brakes on my '55 coupe with new linings from Phil Harris, if anything the brakes feel BETTER than the brakes on my '62 Lark with original shoes. I have also heard that the original linings stop better but I can't tell you if that's true or not as I haven't really worn in the shoes on the '55 yet.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
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Roscomacaw
08-01-2005, 09:40 PM
Yes rockne. I know all about that. My statement was that" From '54 thru '66 everything will interchange so long as it's 6 cylinder or 8 and drum brakes."

Let me explain this for you. IF TTodd wanted to INTERMIX parts from a '61 and say, a '53. No can do. Or do I have it wrong?
Now - will the WHOLE braking setup swap back to those earlier years? You bet. Been there done that numerous times.
He had asked" Will the backing plates and parts from a 1960 Lark VI interchange with a 1961 Lark VI." And indeed they will.

Gary suggested maybe Todd should use V8 "parts". This would be a bad choice. Now to say" I would prefer to use V8 "brakes". This makes sense.
You see? We're either talking parts or brakes. There's a different path of advice for either choice.;)

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Roscomacaw
08-01-2005, 09:44 PM
For a time, I was selling brake shoes and pads for foreign cars. I'd bought out the stock of a foreign auto parts store (remember those?:() that had closed up in the mid-70s. I quickly realized that bidders were enthusiatic about being able to get their hands on linings made of the old compositions. Brake pads were a hot item for a time! (pun intended)[}:)]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

rockne10
08-01-2005, 10:18 PM
Point taken, and, while we're on the subject, should I offer the original 51 Commander brakes to a friend with a 52 Champion or recommend procuring something from a later model? Would the improvement be insignificant or more than adequate?
I hate to throw them away but see no benefit in offering them to another Commander for authenticity's sake.

Roscomacaw
08-02-2005, 11:33 AM
I wouldn't bother putting that vintage V8 brakes on a Champion. Sure, more square inches of brake shoe translates to more stopping power. But those pre-54 brakes are pathetic by any measure.[xx(]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

studegary
08-02-2005, 05:53 PM
Bob/MrBiggs - Perhaps my choice of the word parts was a misleading one. He was referring to changing everything from the backing plate out. I meant to use the equivalent set up from a V8 car. I know that individual parts will not interchange and I have bolted on V8 assemblies (that's probably a better word than parts <G>).

Roscomacaw
08-02-2005, 09:13 PM
I knew what YOU meant, Gary. But we have to assume TTodd might not.

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

hank63
08-03-2005, 11:55 AM
Absolutely right, Mr Biggs. Pathetic is the word. I once got a massive adrenalin rush when trying to stop suddenly from 100 mph in a 1957 V-8 car (not Studebaker). It slowed down to about 60 mph, and that was it. The brake fade was really bad, the brakes were GONE, literally stood on the pedal to eventually come to a slow stop.
Heart beat and blood pressure through the roof.
/ H