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gotti210
07-23-2005, 04:22 PM
well everyone you a all be happy to know that last night (friday july 22nd ) was my studs virgin voyage as me owning it. it only toke me a year to get it to this point but hey thats the fun of it right.


anyways i went to the local cruise spot and an elderly gentleman came a stroolling up and after thriughly inspecting my stud for a while he ask a few questions about it

conversation goes on and after awhile he ask me if it had studebakers hurricane six in it

does this ring a bell does anyone know anything about this so called hurricane six and how would i know if thats what i got or not .

gotti210
07-23-2005, 04:25 PM
oh yeah i also forgot to mention to check out my post in general talk if your interested in how the 1st trip went

Dan White
07-23-2005, 05:08 PM
Hurricane 6 is a Willys Engine.

Dan White
64 R1 GT
64 R2 GT

Roscomacaw
07-23-2005, 06:42 PM
Yup - Willys! They had that Hurricane Six and the Break Wind Four.[:0][}:)]:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

curt
07-23-2005, 08:38 PM
Huricane 6 in Willis? Some Willis six cyl were supersonic 6 by Connential , I think the Henry J and Allstate used the Hurricane six as did Darrin, the Kaiser sports car. If you want I can double check that information, I'm quite sure it is correct.

Dan White
07-23-2005, 09:23 PM
In 1962 Willys came out with the Tornado 6, an OHC inline six! Outstanding for a company the size and financial situation as it was! Too bad Studebaker did not come out with a 6 like this, although it probably would not have helped.

Dan White
64 R1 GT
64 R2 GT

Transtar60
07-23-2005, 09:34 PM
Yeah it was an exciting concept but poor execution. I owned for a while a 63 Jeep Wagoneer with one of those Tornado OHC, man talk about leaking oil. It ran alright, had fair power but nothing exceptional. Judging by the way it was engineered, it must have been a conversion of an older flathead design. IE the front timing cover was gasketed to the front motor plate which had all kinds of o-rings etc.

I didnt keep it long and the Army didnt keep the M715 trucks which used the same engine very long either. I think the Army adopted the M715's in the late 60's and most were replaced by the 1977 Dodge M880, an insuficient vehicle. Eventually Hummers took over the jobs of the M715's
M151's and M880's.

52hawk
07-24-2005, 06:34 AM
I remember a Pontiac, '64 or so,OHV straight 6,it also was a great boat anchor.:(

Everybody's Uncle Used To Have One!

Dingleberry
07-24-2005, 09:03 AM
The "Break Wind Four" was fueled by White Castles. :-)


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Yup - Willys! They had that Hurricane Six and the Break Wind Four.[:0][}:)]:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS


Paul Leske
'59 Lark VI

Dan White
07-24-2005, 09:04 AM
Pontiac did indeed have an OHC (Overhead Cam) 6 (in addition to its interesting slant 4, which was 1/2 of a 389 V8) and it was no boat anchor. I remember it well and in fact there is a nice writeup about it and Pontiac in the most recent Hemmings Muscle Car magazine. It was a well designed engine using the Chevy 6 as the block and a Pontiac designed top end. It was used up until 1970. It performed well. It was really ahead of its time, if only it had stayed around until the gas shortage hit it may have had a much longer life.

Dan White
64 R1 GT
64 R2 GT

Danarchy
07-24-2005, 09:38 AM
The 230 Tornado was used in Kaiser Jeeps also, an extremely strong Low Torque engine, had one in my M715. The Pontiac engine(also 230) was called a "Sprint",had one in my very first car(1966 Tempest) :D

Dallas,Texas

Roscomacaw
07-24-2005, 12:37 PM
I've got one of those HUGE Tornado valve covers. Giant cast aluminum thing! Was gonna make a valve cover racer out of it but never did. It's now full of nuts 'n bolts out in the parts shed.:(

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

curt
07-24-2005, 01:02 PM
Kaiser purchased Wills Overland in 1953 , Some of the Willis cars were then fitted with 226 cuin Continental engines, these engines were the same engunes in Kaiser & Frazer automobiles. Willis was a good car, why did people not buy Willis?

Alan
07-24-2005, 05:45 PM
Curt, I had a couple of Willis Aero Eagles back a few years and a little cabover truck. They were nice small cars got good gas mileage but they were hard to get parts for and when you could find parts they were expensive. The big problem was rust and the unibodies, the whole back end was unibody and the small subframe in the front was small, thin and very narrow. Tried to put some power in them they would twist. The steering was too close to the engine, designed for a small inline, small brakes, small wheels. I could go on and on about them too.

lark55
07-24-2005, 06:06 PM
In regards to the tornado ohc six, they were used in race applications in South America (Argentina?)for some time. I don't remember the specifics but it would be interesting to see what they did to them.

studegary
07-24-2005, 06:34 PM
I owned a 1969 Tempest with the overhead cam (OHC) engine. It served me very well. I sold it to my boss (a risky thing to do) and he got many years of commuting to work with it.
Curt & Alan - The name is Willys.

Danarchy
07-24-2005, 08:48 PM
LARK55-The company was called IKA (Industrias Káiser Argentina) and they made some Cool Hot Rod cars! Here is a link to some site if you are interested! Hope you've brushed up on your Spanish!:D
http://www.ramblerrogue.com/torino1.htm

Dallas,Texas

lark55
07-24-2005, 11:16 PM
Danarchy - Thanks for the link on the IKA. That was an interesting read. It seems to me that the Tornado six was also used in an open wheel series but I can't remember the specifics.It's been too many years.

Roscomacaw
07-25-2005, 10:53 AM
OK - NO web searches now!:( Just from your brain cell(s) - Who had the Typhoon Six??? Since we're talking storm-oriented titles here.[:o)] Even better - what year was it introduced and how many years did that name get used???[:0]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Danarchy
07-25-2005, 09:18 PM
I'm guessing Fix Or Repair Daily!
How about a Tsunami 6 ? :D

Dallas,Texas

55s
07-25-2005, 09:31 PM
Stude's flathead engine was a VICTORY SIX. (1955)

Roscomacaw
07-26-2005, 10:00 AM
Rambler chose the name Typhoon 6 for the totally new OHV 6 they intro'd in 1964. In fact, they had a special edition 2-dr hardtop to commemorate this debut. You could get a black over yellow, 64 Classic 2-dr hardtop with that engine and the name Typhoon on the rear quarters. That engine was 199cu.in. and then quickly grew to 232 and eventually 258.
While AMC withered away, that basic 6 cylinder engine survived to the next millenium under the hood of Jeeps!:D

So - what was the Skybolt 6???[:I]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Transtar60
07-26-2005, 10:48 AM
Studebakers new for '61 Powerful OHV version of the venerable Champ six.

Too bad they didnt do the same for the big Commander six.!

Too bad they didnt start earlier and do a better job on the OHV heads.

BobPalma
07-30-2005, 06:58 AM
;) Oops, Bob:

The Typhoon six was 232 cubic inches when introduced. It was later downsized to 199 and upsized to 258. But it came out as 232 in that 1964 Rambler Classic Typhoon Hardtop. (But will there ever be a model name longer than 1955 Packard Clipper Custom Constellation Hardtop?):)

Yep, as to the Typhoon Six's survival into the next millenium. My daughter [:I] bought a new Jeep Wrangler Sport last year after college graduation, and therein is the current incarnation of the Typhoon! But, of course, it doesn't have cubic inches anymore; it has liters. [xx(] BP


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Rambler chose the name Typhoon 6 for the totally new OHV 6 they intro'd in 1964. In fact, they had a special edition 2-dr hardtop to commemorate this debut. You could get a black over yellow, 64 Classic 2-dr hardtop with that engine and the name Typhoon on the rear quarters. That engine was 199cu.in. and then quickly grew to 232 and eventually 258.
While AMC withered away, that basic 6 cylinder engine survived to the next millenium under the hood of Jeeps!:D

So - what was the Skybolt 6???[:I]

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS


BP

Roscomacaw
07-30-2005, 12:50 PM
BP says: "The Typhoon six was 232 cubic inches when introduced."

Aw Bob - you got auto history ALL askew![xx(] The 232 debuted in 1951.[}:)] Then AMC built it under liesense.[}:)]
Same thing happened with the 289 that Studebaker invented. Ford snapped it up later on![:0]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

wagone
08-11-2005, 06:06 PM
You guys.........have WAY too much time on your hands. Instead of this game of trivia why don't you come on over and help get my cursed Avanti running!;)Actually I should be in the garage working on it rather then here.
wagone and Avanti I