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Dan White
06-11-2005, 03:14 PM
After driving my '64 Hawk around for over 10 years I am thinking about putting AC in it. A couple of questions, how easy is it to find an original Stude unit? If I do this I will likely go with R134, I know that York compressors are available for R134 but how easy is it to convert the rest of the system over? I know the hoses are different, but will the evaporator and condenser work OK?

Dan White
64 R1 GT
64 R2 GT

N8N
06-11-2005, 08:06 PM
I don't know the answer to your question but I would probably use a Sanden compressor not a York, there is an adapter plate available for the factory mount, much smoother running.

good luck,

nate

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Sircocky
06-11-2005, 09:58 PM
I have changed probably 500 R12 systems to R134a with great success using the same hoses evaporator and condenser just make sure you drain the oil from the compressor measure it and add Astor oil you will be ok . GOOD Luck Jack

mjeansonne
06-13-2005, 05:29 PM
I second Nate's recommendation... use a Sanden as opposed to the York. Much quiter and easier on the engine. You can probably get a "kit" from your local knowledgable parts house. It will include the proper valves and astor oil.

Nate, where are these Sanden mount adapters located? I need a couple.

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Transtar60
06-13-2005, 06:58 PM
Check out these guys http://www.ackits.com/
or these guys in Ft Worth
http://www.oldairproducts.com/shop/advanced_search_result.php?osCsid=cd7b12ce44226675d28ae5cc622fce4d&search_in_description=1&keywords=Adapter+York+to+Sanden&osCsid=cd7b12ce44226675d28ae5cc622fce4d&x=16&y=11
Just a few I found doing a quick search of my saved links.
Or contact Ebon Jones(bonjo12@earthlink.net)he's a Stude enthusiast and a Texas A/C guy.

N8N
06-13-2005, 07:45 PM
is Ebon still around? I tried to email him a while back with an A/C question and never got a reply. Or maybe he's just real busy (naaaah, that never happens)

nate

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62 Daytona hardtop
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Sircocky
06-13-2005, 08:28 PM
Here is a page you may want to check depends how much work you want to d0 and mounting kit runs $180
good luck
Jack

Sircocky
06-13-2005, 08:29 PM
oooops lol page is http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/tech_AC.asp

jcstude
06-14-2005, 03:57 PM
Dan, I have been doing the same thing regarding A/C for my 57 Silver Hawk....procrastinating. Finding all the right stock bits is nearly impossible. I got a complete set up except the engine pulleys. Never found the missing pieces. Ray Fichthorns method seems the best solution to fitting A/C. He fabs up the mounts for the compressor and gen/alt. He runs the alt. from the second groove of the compressor pulley so you dont need an idler or near non-existent crankshaft pulley. My current plan is to use a restored 64 Hawk under dash unit with new R134a compatible expansion valve mated to modern day hoses, Sanden compressor, and condensor.

Dan White
06-15-2005, 12:07 PM
Thanks for the inputs! JC your and Ray's approach is an interesting one. Now if I could just find a 64 unit for the inside I would be set!

Dan White
64 R1 GT
64 R2 GT

jcstude
06-15-2005, 03:49 PM
Lionel Stone has a '64 evaporator. I know 'cause I sold him one.

Sircocky
06-15-2005, 04:12 PM
Ray has a great idea . I went a bit farther I took the bracket off the manifold and laid it all on the work banch .Used 1/4 steel pipe and made spacers to fit ,and just used a nut on each end which makes belt adjustment easy ( you need calipers to get the spacers the right length) good luck Jack

bradnree
06-17-2005, 09:07 PM
Phone Vintage Air in Texas and your tech problems are solved, they can sell you a complete system that will freeze you out. I'm presently using a GEN 11 Compac Vintage Air system in a 1947 Mercury street rod and I have a '60 Lark needing air. Brad