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bones
03-04-2007, 06:49 PM
I have a 1961 studebaker Champ pick-up, it has a 289 v8 engine. I would like to know who made the engine, and what parts are interchangable with it. Like maybe a fuel pump from a ford 289 v8 or what?

mbstude
03-04-2007, 06:59 PM
The Studebaker 289 was built by Studebaker Corp. It is 110% different from a Ford 289. Not one little thing is the same between them, at least as far as I know.

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Roscomacaw
03-04-2007, 07:17 PM
There's nothing that'll interchange from a Furd. (and that's a good thing!)
IF you need a fuel pump, you could buy one from one of our fine Studebaker vendors OR you can ask NAPA for an M2211 Carter. I'm not real happy with the quality of that Carter but that's not Studebaker's fault - it's the crappy pump that's bein' built overseas someplace, like every other American car part nowdays.[8]

As Matthew's said, the ONLY thing this engine shares with F*rd is that it just HAPPENS to be the same in cubic inches. It was first built about 8 years before F*rd's 289 was! Oh - and it's a MUCH better engine than the F*rd.

Tell us more about your Champ. Is it driveable or are you tryin' to get it to that point?

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whacker
03-04-2007, 07:32 PM
Thre are a lot of interchanges available, just not with f*rd stuff. Might start at N8's site here:

http://members.cox.net/njnagel/

and maybe take a tour of the Studebaker web ring for others. They are simple American cars that use many of the same parts as other American cars of the era. I think each of us has our own list of interchanges we've tried. If you need something specific, ask here or try a Studebaker vendor.

Transtar60
03-04-2007, 10:13 PM
Check out www.studebakervendors.com
Lots of parts places there.

http://racingstudebakers.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10056/5E13%20Pic%203.JPG
3E38
4E2
4E28
5E13
7E7
8E7
8E12
8E28
4E2
59 Lark
etc

Karl
03-05-2007, 12:11 AM
N8 what a great site!!!!!!!!!!!:DLots of good stuff.:)copied all sixteen pages.[:p]

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64 Avanti R3w/NOS
88LSC Avanti 350 Supercharged w/NOS

sbca96
03-05-2007, 12:46 AM
I think they share the same coil ....[:p];)

Tom


quote:Originally posted by mbstudeIt is 110% different from a Ford 289. Not one little thing is the same between them...

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N8N
03-05-2007, 06:07 PM
Thanks Karl, it is still "under development" however. Any input is greatly appreciated whenever someone has a chance to confirm any of tose part numbers.

Bob Johnstone has another interchange on his site; he's got more numbers in it but I prefer the way mine is organized. (I won't just copy numbers over unless I can confirm them with a catalog or personal experience.)

nate

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bones
03-17-2007, 10:30 PM
Finally checked the name plate on door jamb. It says 6E7-112 and says something about 141 HP, the engine is too grimey to read the engine model number. The truck has a 3 on the tree not sure if there is an overdrive or not, any ideas?

StudeRich
03-18-2007, 01:03 AM
Sure Bones, look under the dash on the left of Wheel there should be a chrome "T" handle that is stamped OD. Also the tail of the trans has a Governor on one side & Solinoid on the other with wires on them. There is a third shift lever on the left side for the OD cable. If none of the above it's just a Standard Trans not Overdrive. [^]

The "6E" indicates 1961, the "7" a 1/2 ton V-8, the 112 a 112 inch wheelbase short bed pickup.

The advertised horsepower is actually 180,195,210 or 225 depending on the engine ordered 259 2V, 259 4V, 289 2V, 289 4V. [^]The SAE rated HP is all the same: 141. [:0]

You only need to clean a area 1/2 inch by 2 inch on the DRIVER'S side front corner flat machined pad next to oil filler pipe, it can't be THAT hard to do, I could have done it in less time than typing this!


quote:Originally posted by bones

The truck has a 3 on the tree not sure if there is an overdrive or not, any ideas?

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

sbca96
03-18-2007, 02:18 AM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich
You only need to clean a area 1/2 inch by 2 inch on the DRIVER'S side front corner flat machined pad next to oil filler pipe

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Tom

N8N
03-18-2007, 07:00 AM
Hey Tom, you ever get around to tearing that engine down? I still haven't found the "right" pulley for the A/C yet nor have I managed to find someone to mill down a spacer to make the one I have (presumably earlier model) work.

nate

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sbca96
03-18-2007, 04:35 PM
Sorry Nate ... been chasin the powersteering crap for the Avanti, and
the only thing I have done to that 64 R1 is see that it turns. Oh! I
did swipe the coil and ballist resistor off it when my Avanti died.

Tom

bones
03-29-2007, 07:20 PM
well finally got the stude champ home, it runs and drives. the engine number is 3EI2I97 or 3E12197, any ideas about the breakdown of it? I will try to post some pictures later.

StudeRich
03-29-2007, 08:12 PM
According to that (3E), it is a 259. At least it WAS when new. Pull a spark plug and check it to see if it has dished pistons 289, or flat top 259.


quote:Originally posted by bones

well finally got the stude champ home, it runs and drives. the engine number is 3EI2I97 or 3E12197, any ideas about the breakdown of it? I will try to post some pictures later.


StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA