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stehlik
05-01-2010, 01:18 AM
When I buy a new Studebaker I always buy the complete set of manuals. They answer most of my questions but not all. when I bought a Champ truck I was going to change the trans. from a 4 speed to a t85 o/d. I could not find the info in the books I had, so I asked on the forum and got a nice picture and info on the transmissions and their specification from studerich. Now I do a lot of swapping of stude parts from one year another year. Like now I am going to put power steering on my 51 from a Lark. Right now it is measure, try, scratch my head and try something else. If I had more info it would help a lot. Where do I find those types of books. Bob

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StudeRich
05-01-2010, 01:51 AM
The Shop Manual under Frames has dimensions for them.

But "Specifications" refers to Cubic inches, H.P., compression ratio, bore & stroke, wheelbase, weights etc. and that is also in the Shop manual. [^]

Not sure exactly what you want, if it is a download of my braincells, you won't get as much info as you think, I certainly do not know it all! :D :D

But really, I don't know of a book that tells you what you can interchange and what you cannot. [:0]

That old interchange book that junkyards used to use, only told you what make radiator would fit another make etc. pretty useless, it's not going to tell you how to install a '64 Daytona steering gear in a '57 Golden Hawk or power steering on a '51 Champion. [:0]

The T-89 3 Speed O.D. Transmission not being shown in the Truck Shop Manual, and only the similar T-85 being in the Car Shop Manual, was just an isolated omission. [xx(]










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stehlik
05-01-2010, 02:14 AM
When you build a item for production every single item needs a specification. Before production starts a final version would be produced. So every year or anytime a change is made a new or up dated book would be needed. I know a book like this would be large and hard to reproduce but it could be put on disk and sold. you could even break it up into sections.
Things I would like to know right now is about the shaft that comes out of a Saginaw steering box. Is the size and splines the same. Looks the same measures the same. Will a later Lark Saginaw replace a 51 Saginaw box? Will a later steering post jacket fit a 51. Looks different but measure out the same. Bushing is different but I made one of those. Specification. Bob

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StudeRich
05-01-2010, 02:38 AM
OK, I got ya. Those kind of Specs are only on the Part Numbered DRAWINGS in the SNM archives. Copies are available, but I don't think Geoff Newman sells copies of his set anymore, so someone has to search the files at the hourly rate to find them to be copied I believe.

StudeRich

stehlik
05-01-2010, 02:43 AM
Where do you get all your info like that info on the trans. Bob

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barnlark
05-01-2010, 07:58 AM
First I must qualify that I've never had a '51, so I'm not sure what it has shaft & steering box-wise for size/length, but do you have a Ross box now? I had a Ross box and shaft in my '60 Lark.

I installed a full '64 box, shaft, column, etc. a few years ago. If I remember right, the only differences that I encountered were the horn wire, the pitman arm, and the neutral safety switch location. Now that's Lark to Lark, so I'm not sure if that is of any help to you, but it all fit and worked well with very little modification.

The 1960 Lark set up, for the most part, was still using the old technologies, so maybe?
Wish I had a better answer, sorry. Many here with multiple cars over the years and with experience experimenting with such swaps should know the answer for your '51 fit.

There's not a thorough factory book for those things though Chuck Lampman's book is very helpful. His restoration book doesn't list steering box options, however.

I think the C/Ks have the real different length shafts, so those probably won't swap. I tried to offer up my old low mileage Ross box to a Hawk owner and it wouldn't work size-wise.

StudeRich is onto something, though. Maybe memory chips for a life time of Studebaker knowledge will be able to be extracted from SDC members in the near future and then sold. :D I can't imagine the filter necessary to leave the rest of the scary stuff out, though. [:o)]

ROADRACELARK
05-01-2010, 08:26 AM
The book that Rich is refering to was "Hollander's Interchange". This book listed the parts that would be a "direct" interchange with little or no modifications. If there were modifications required, it was up to you to figure them out...no pictures or instructions. This was a very valuable book back in the 40's and 50's. Lots of cars had parts from outside manufacterers and this is where this book comes in very handy. Hope this helps.:)

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kurtruk
05-01-2010, 11:04 AM
The main branch of our public library has older Hollander's interchange manuals. They don't have them in the neighborhood branch libraries. They are in the Reference Section, so they aren't available for checkout. (Although if you become a frequent patron, look responsible, and don't have grease under your fingernails, the Refrence Desk librarians have allowed me to check out certain materials that aren't normally available for checkout.;) I was thrilled.:)) And although Refrence Desk librarians (whom I hold in high esteem) aren't usually "car guys," they KNOW where to find the info. That's their job!

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nibbs53
05-01-2010, 11:06 AM
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