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Nitram
02-23-2007, 09:26 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and reveal a little of my ignorance in the Lark arena.
I've seen quite a few pics of Larks but have never seen a spare tire in this location. This is a 1961 Convertible and in all the pics I have ever seen of any Larks I have never seen any externally mounted spares with a hard cover no matter what year they were made. Was this a special trim package/option? Was this on all 61's? Or maybe in my old age with senility creeping up I just never noticed the location before?
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[i]~Nitram~
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Lancaster, PA

rockne10
02-23-2007, 09:37 PM
A period correct aftermarket kit; never offerred by the factory.

rockne10
02-23-2007, 09:37 PM
A period correct aftermarket kit; never offerred by the factory.

65cruiser
02-23-2007, 09:38 PM
That was an aftermarket continental kit that was fairly popular in the 50s and early 60s. I'm not sure Studebaker ever offered a continental kit as an actual accessory, other than a fake one mounted on the trunklid that appears on some models.

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65cruiser
02-23-2007, 09:38 PM
That was an aftermarket continental kit that was fairly popular in the 50s and early 60s. I'm not sure Studebaker ever offered a continental kit as an actual accessory, other than a fake one mounted on the trunklid that appears on some models.

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StudeRich
02-24-2007, 01:14 AM
Continental kits seemed to be a regional thing, very popular in the South ie: Oklahoma, Arkansas, parts of Texas. If you saw one on the West Coast, you would look for the license plate and say: I wonder where he's from?! Same with "fender skirts", they actually go together :) smile!

StudeRich
02-24-2007, 01:14 AM
Continental kits seemed to be a regional thing, very popular in the South ie: Oklahoma, Arkansas, parts of Texas. If you saw one on the West Coast, you would look for the license plate and say: I wonder where he's from?! Same with "fender skirts", they actually go together :) smile!

Nitram
02-24-2007, 06:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

Continental kits seemed to be a regional thing, Same with "fender skirts", they actually go together :) smile!

Are you saying the Continental kit included fender skirts or that the persons choosing the contintental kit usually also chose to put the fender skirts on?
It appears like the Continental kit had a different bumper because it looks like it is notched around or is made to receive the spare tire holder. Is the bumper different also?


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[i]~Nitram~
57 Transtar
Lancaster, PA

Nitram
02-24-2007, 06:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

Continental kits seemed to be a regional thing, Same with "fender skirts", they actually go together :) smile!

Are you saying the Continental kit included fender skirts or that the persons choosing the contintental kit usually also chose to put the fender skirts on?
It appears like the Continental kit had a different bumper because it looks like it is notched around or is made to receive the spare tire holder. Is the bumper different also?


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[i]~Nitram~
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Lancaster, PA

lstude
02-24-2007, 07:07 AM
Fender skirts did not come as a package with continental kits, but most people who liked to "dress up" their cars with continental kits also liked fender skirts. Usually the rear bumpers were the same but there was an extension on each side ot he pan that held the tire to go from the existing fender to the bumper.

Below is a typical continental kit aftermarket supplier.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/62StudebakerwithGeorgiancontinental.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
02-24-2007, 07:07 AM
Fender skirts did not come as a package with continental kits, but most people who liked to "dress up" their cars with continental kits also liked fender skirts. Usually the rear bumpers were the same but there was an extension on each side ot he pan that held the tire to go from the existing fender to the bumper.

Below is a typical continental kit aftermarket supplier.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/62StudebakerwithGeorgiancontinental.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

Nitram
02-24-2007, 07:26 AM
I'm envisioning trying to get something out of the trunk of a car with a continental kit. Must have been interesting to get the trunk key inserted to get the trunk open. Were the locks easily accessible? Did you slip your hand in behind the tire to unlock the trunk? Did the spare tire stay in place when the trunk is opened or did it go up with the trunk lid?
I like the appearance of the contintal kit but the practicality of access I imagine was quite limited. It did give you more storage area in the trunk with the spare externally mounted.


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Lancaster, PA

Nitram
02-24-2007, 07:26 AM
I'm envisioning trying to get something out of the trunk of a car with a continental kit. Must have been interesting to get the trunk key inserted to get the trunk open. Were the locks easily accessible? Did you slip your hand in behind the tire to unlock the trunk? Did the spare tire stay in place when the trunk is opened or did it go up with the trunk lid?
I like the appearance of the contintal kit but the practicality of access I imagine was quite limited. It did give you more storage area in the trunk with the spare externally mounted.


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[i]~Nitram~
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Lancaster, PA

brigand
02-24-2007, 08:03 AM
The bumper mounted spare, or continental kit, was offered by several manufacturers as a factory option, the more popular users of the item being Chevrolet and Rambler (AMC) in the fifties. It may have been referred to as a Continental kit due to the fact that it was a feature of the late 40's Lincoln Continentals. Having the spare mounted outside the trunk area increased luggage space, as well as offering a longer, sleeker look to the car. In some geographic areas owners tended to lower, or "rake' the back end of the car, and the fender skirts and wheel kit would add to the perceived low long look. The whole assembly would indeed tilt back and out of the way, or in the case of Ford/Mercury, flip up and over in a clockwise direction, so that access to the trunk was not too badly impeded. One disadvantage was the extra weight that far back on the frame rails; these kits would invariably rattle themselves loose, so keeping the fasteners tight was a regular maintenance item if you did not want the whole thing to fall off when crossing railroad tracks. The popularity of the look lost its flavor when forward rakes (the dragster look) became more the vogue.

brigand
02-24-2007, 08:03 AM
The bumper mounted spare, or continental kit, was offered by several manufacturers as a factory option, the more popular users of the item being Chevrolet and Rambler (AMC) in the fifties. It may have been referred to as a Continental kit due to the fact that it was a feature of the late 40's Lincoln Continentals. Having the spare mounted outside the trunk area increased luggage space, as well as offering a longer, sleeker look to the car. In some geographic areas owners tended to lower, or "rake' the back end of the car, and the fender skirts and wheel kit would add to the perceived low long look. The whole assembly would indeed tilt back and out of the way, or in the case of Ford/Mercury, flip up and over in a clockwise direction, so that access to the trunk was not too badly impeded. One disadvantage was the extra weight that far back on the frame rails; these kits would invariably rattle themselves loose, so keeping the fasteners tight was a regular maintenance item if you did not want the whole thing to fall off when crossing railroad tracks. The popularity of the look lost its flavor when forward rakes (the dragster look) became more the vogue.

Skip Lackie
02-24-2007, 08:04 AM
The spare tire was attached to a mounting that bolted to the frame and bumper brackets; it did not go up with the trunk. There were many different models of continental kits, some offered by car makers. The more deluxe models had a hinge that allowed the tire to be moved away from the trunk. Some included a new three-piece or wrap-around bumper; others just moved the original bumper farther away from the body like in the Hawk picture. The trunk lock remained where it was. There were a few kits that included rear fender extensions to match the extended bumper.

If you cared enough about your car's distinctive appearance to put a continental kit on it, you didn't care whether access to the trunk was restricted or not.

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

Skip Lackie
02-24-2007, 08:04 AM
The spare tire was attached to a mounting that bolted to the frame and bumper brackets; it did not go up with the trunk. There were many different models of continental kits, some offered by car makers. The more deluxe models had a hinge that allowed the tire to be moved away from the trunk. Some included a new three-piece or wrap-around bumper; others just moved the original bumper farther away from the body like in the Hawk picture. The trunk lock remained where it was. There were a few kits that included rear fender extensions to match the extended bumper.

If you cared enough about your car's distinctive appearance to put a continental kit on it, you didn't care whether access to the trunk was restricted or not.

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

studegary
02-24-2007, 01:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by Nitram

[quote]

It appears like the Continental kit had a different bumper because it looks like it is notched around or is made to receive the spare tire holder. Is the bumper different also?



The bumper is moved back, but not notched. What you are noticing is the difference between 1961 and 1959/1960 Lark bumpers. 1959-1960 bumpers go straight across at the top. 1961 bumpers are different. They have a dip at the top in the center of the bumper.

I personally feel that the Lark is too short of a design to carry out the look of a continental wheel properly. The fender skirts attempt to make the car visually longer.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
02-24-2007, 01:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by Nitram

[quote]

It appears like the Continental kit had a different bumper because it looks like it is notched around or is made to receive the spare tire holder. Is the bumper different also?



The bumper is moved back, but not notched. What you are noticing is the difference between 1961 and 1959/1960 Lark bumpers. 1959-1960 bumpers go straight across at the top. 1961 bumpers are different. They have a dip at the top in the center of the bumper.

I personally feel that the Lark is too short of a design to carry out the look of a continental wheel properly. The fender skirts attempt to make the car visually longer.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

65cruiser
02-25-2007, 08:24 AM
As God as my witness, I remember seeing an article or a video SOMEWHERE that showed, perhaps a Packard Carribean with a Continental kit. However, this wheel would hydraulically lower itself down, make contact with the pavement, then "roll" you into a parallel parking space.

Now that I've said that, where'd I put those anti-delusional drugs.[}:)]

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Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
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65cruiser
02-25-2007, 08:24 AM
As God as my witness, I remember seeing an article or a video SOMEWHERE that showed, perhaps a Packard Carribean with a Continental kit. However, this wheel would hydraulically lower itself down, make contact with the pavement, then "roll" you into a parallel parking space.

Now that I've said that, where'd I put those anti-delusional drugs.[}:)]

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Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/SIG.JPG

52hawk
02-25-2007, 10:18 AM
Mark,I've seen it too! There was also one built inside the trunk for parking the car,by another inventer.[I think I saw these on the internet,maybe youtube-??

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
02-25-2007, 10:18 AM
Mark,I've seen it too! There was also one built inside the trunk for parking the car,by another inventer.[I think I saw these on the internet,maybe youtube-??

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

Nitram
02-25-2007, 05:12 PM
Finding the Continental kit quite intrigueing and knowing there had to be other discussion on this in the past, I did some more searching and found this prior thread.

http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/sdc_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8275&SearchTerms=spare,tire


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Lancaster, PA

Nitram
02-25-2007, 05:12 PM
Finding the Continental kit quite intrigueing and knowing there had to be other discussion on this in the past, I did some more searching and found this prior thread.

http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/sdc_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8275&SearchTerms=spare,tire


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[i]~Nitram~
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Lancaster, PA

StudeRich
02-25-2007, 08:44 PM
WOW, those are really good pics of the H.W. Continental Kit kit, it looks really well designed well made and sturdy, they even show one jacked up with a bumper jack!

Only thing is, if I had found that nice light Blue one I don't think I could bring myself to drive that ugly thing home, someone might see me! [xx(]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
02-25-2007, 08:44 PM
WOW, those are really good pics of the H.W. Continental Kit kit, it looks really well designed well made and sturdy, they even show one jacked up with a bumper jack!

Only thing is, if I had found that nice light Blue one I don't think I could bring myself to drive that ugly thing home, someone might see me! [xx(]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA