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sbca96
08-25-2006, 09:53 PM
UPDATE AT LAST POST

OK ... I just "finished" (because I was about to pass out) waxing the
back half of the Avanti and the roof. The black laquer paint shines
up REALLY nicely, but isnt there an easier way? I have always done it
by hand, no machine. I am considering the machine. The reason that I
have always done by hand, is that around the windows, the paint is
chipping, and I am afraid of picking up a paint chip and making swirl
marks before I realize whats happening (ask me how I know). By hand
I can catch this before its an issue, with a machine - ick. Anyone an
expert on detailing that can steer me toward something that might be
helpful for this situation. No, painting the car right now is not an
option, I have plenty of more important things to spend money on with
this car, than a paint job before pulling an engine.;)

Thanks!

Tom (my back is killing me)

Karl
08-26-2006, 02:44 AM
Thers no better way than by hand on old paint. you saw the Karate kid. Wax on left hand.wax off right hand....hehehehe...

CHAMP
08-26-2006, 07:20 AM
I wax my cars by hand. I like McQuires products. I use their Tech. wax, their cleaner and their scratch remover to. Good for light surface scratches and swirls. I have tryed just about everything out there and these products seem to work best for me. I also use the spray waxes between times.:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

hank63
08-26-2006, 08:15 AM
There are polishing pads for use with el sanders. They are often used by car detailing people. It's quick and easy, just the thing to cut down on time. I'm not sure they'd save your back much, though.
BUT, there's a tendency to rub through on edges, making your paint work looking decidedly poor. Like Gary and Karl said, the old hand method is the best.
/H

64V-K7
08-26-2006, 04:23 PM
Definitley hand buff. IMO, random orbital electric buffers don't work worth a crap. The electric grinders that can double as a buffer, with an attachment change and a sheepskin cap, will burn through lacquer in a heartbeat, if you're not experienced in using one.
Not worth the risk of screwing up a nice paint job..

ROADRACELARK
08-26-2006, 07:51 PM
Tom,
If you happen to see any of those Chip Foose/Boyd Coddington shows where thay do all that stuff, yes they do hand SAND (aka, color sand) the top coat of paint,(clear) but you'll see they all use polishers most all with the foam pads, not the wool ones...they will burn the paint and they are harder to use. First the "polisher" you need should be no more than 1700 RPMs. The ones that have 2 speeds are sometimes not slow enough.The ones I refer to and use, are like a grinder, but NOT 3000 RPM! Meguier"s(sp) has any of the polishes you need as well as the back-up plates and foam pads for the machine. I've been using the foam pads for years with an old B&D polisher (1750 RPM), works great..no chips, scratches, swirls...just a mirror finish. Hope this helps.:)
Dan

Road Racers turn left AND right.

sbca96
08-26-2006, 09:28 PM
I always use Meguiars, and have very good luck with them as well, when
I got my Avanti, the laquer looked like black primer. I tried Turtle
Wax and couldnt get the crap off! My boss at the time suggested the
3 step Meguiars system, and it worked! (even got the Turtle wax off!)
I have always done them by hand, but I have heard good things about a
power buffer. After pushing REALLY hard on the paint by hand, & seeing
the good results, I thought maybe it needs a little "more" cut to it.

http://www.meguiars.com/

Thanks for the replies guys ... I will shop around tomorrow, I have a
really bad headache now .. think I will take a nap.

Tom

ROADRACELARK
08-26-2006, 10:07 PM
Good night Tom.[8D]
Dan

Road Racers turn left AND right.

rockne10
08-26-2006, 10:26 PM
Like Dan said, if you want to try a power buffer, low rpm and foam (foam) pads, not wool.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
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DEEPNHOCK
08-27-2006, 07:27 AM
Next time you are at a show, look for someone using DWG (Dri-Wash n Guard)....
http://www.dwgint.com/xauto.shtml?distributorId=&Email=#
http://www.mydwgint.com/cart/assets/images/2006/1011x_pic.jpg
Video link: http://www.mydwgint.com/global/mpg/driwashcar.mpg
Instructions: http://www.mydwgint.com/global/instructions.asp#1010
Ask him/her to let you use it for a bit on your car.
Stuff looks like milk.
It will pull off orange peel and is truly amazing stuff.
Buffs up great and leaves no white stuff behind.
Works on chrome, rubber, glass, stainless..
I used mine on a red Avanti at the Turkey Rod Run a while back and it worked so well the guy sold the thing there...
Not pushing the stuff, just quantifying how well it works.

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sbca96
08-31-2006, 03:58 AM
As some of you reading this post know, I got the exhaust back together
and the Avanti into the garage to polish/wax. I went and looked at a
few polishing machines, but couldnt find one that spins less then 2000
rpm, so I bought some Meguiars "Paint Cleaner" & went to town by hand.
This product works a LOT faster then their stage 2 polish. I got the
whole car done tonight, so tomorrow I can do the stage 2 polish & then
the stage 3 wax. Here is a shot before, you can see the blueish hue
fog in the paint at the shiney areas :

http://hometown.aol.com/sbca96/images/Avantinewimages/avanti_problems/Avanti_success003a.jpg

Here is after the Paint Cleaner, the blueish hue is gone, leaving the
car a deep black. God I love this stuff. So if you have oxidized
paint, START with the Paint Cleaner, NOT the polish (like they say![B)])

http://hometown.aol.com/sbca96/images/Avantinewimages/Avanti_paint_cleanera.jpg

Tom

sbca96
09-01-2006, 04:34 AM
http://hometown.aol.com/sbca96/images/Avantinewimages/Avanti_polish001a.jpg

Just finished polishing the whole car, and I sprayed the wheel wells.

Tom