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DKing
04-09-2010, 09:01 PM
I took the Commander out today to a job networking event that was 53 miles one way. The weather here in MI was a little cool, but the car drove out very well. A few issues to be sorted as always, but overall, not bad for a car that really has not been driven since ’78.
Items to correct:
Fuel gauge is not correct
The speedometer cable is making some noise and the needle bounces around more than it should
Needs wiper blades
The carburator should be rebuilt, runs pretty good when warm, but not so well before it is warm.
Instrument light switch keeps the dash lights on full on the low setting.

More photos can be seen by going to the link below. Today's photos are at the bottom of the album.

http://picasaweb.google.com/kz78hy/64StudebakerCommander?feat=directlink

David

A few photo in the drive before leaving.
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David King

1964 Studebaker Commander
1958 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham (615)
1966 Pontiac GTO convertible

SDC Member#: A011937K

studerodder
04-09-2010, 09:06 PM
man-o-man that thing is beautiful.

2R5
04-09-2010, 09:20 PM
Nice job ![:p]

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"IF YOU WANT THE SMILES YOU NEED TO DO THE MILES "

1960 Champ
1964 Daytona HT
1966 Daytona

BobPalma
04-09-2010, 09:21 PM
:) Nice little car, Dave. 'Doesn't sound like anything is wrong that a little dicker'n with it won't fix. [8D]BP

61Lark
04-09-2010, 09:22 PM
That really is a sharp looking car.

JGK 940
04-09-2010, 09:28 PM
What a honey. You're putting it in a container bound for Hilo later this week, right? [:o)]

Good job; beeyooteefull car; many thanks for posting!

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

Mark57
04-09-2010, 09:33 PM
I like those 64's with the single headlamps. :)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
"Star Performers with Saving Ways!"

Vancouver Island Chapter
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Bill Pressler
04-10-2010, 05:16 AM
Man, that thing looks almost like an NOS Studebaker!

I notice it's a Hamilton car.

What's its story?!

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1 (sold new by Cordell Motors, Moorhead, MN)
'64 Daytona Hardtop (sold new by Carl E. Filer Co., Greenville, PA)


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StudeRich
04-10-2010, 12:40 PM
Yes Bill, with the Bone colored wheel it appears to be, but I thought they all had Studebaker of Canada Clock hole covers! [:0]

Maybe they did not start using them until '65 but you would think they already had them for the early '64's sold in Canada, but with all of the South Bend Parts returning to Hamilton maybe it was hit and miss.

Kinda like my Dad's '64 Daytona HT "Import" with U.S. outside door handles on one side and Canadian on the other, also the U.S. 1/4 window bottom rubber "sweep" on one side and Canadian Cat Whisker on the other. [:0]
I had the Dealer fix both. [^]

StudeRich

Mark57
04-10-2010, 03:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

Yes Bill, with the Bone colored wheel it appears to be, but I thought they all had Studebaker of Canada Clock hole covers! [:0]

Maybe they did not start using them until '65 but you would think they already had them for the early '64's sold in Canada, but with all of the South Bend Parts returning to Hamilton maybe it was hit and miss.

StudeRich


Every Canadian built '63 and '64/'66 I've seen with the clock blank always read "Studebaker of Canada". 'Course that does not mean they never used the other type of blank. ;)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
"Star Performers with Saving Ways!"

Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

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jackb
04-10-2010, 03:54 PM
best kinda car Studebaker put out: bare bones Lark....! gotta love em'..that said, keep filling your tank to "full". You might get the gas gage to read close to the top. I'd suggest you pull the speedo cable soon and oil it with correct lube. You will need to oil the back of the speedo unit itself too...For the dash lights, there's a dimmer switch below and to the left of the steering post...over by the hood release lever. A little round grooved knob (vertical). Wind it back and forth with the "Inst Lights" rocker switch in the "mid" position. Maybe it will work off the corrosion along the windings....plenty of them around....After you get those few little things done, and since you've easily made that 100+ mile trip with little difficulty..
I'll send you directions to my house here in Mass for your delivery....say...sometime next week....? HA !

silverhawk
04-10-2010, 04:03 PM
Nice car! Once you clean up the carpet area, yo might have a pretty good scoreing car there!

Dylan Wills
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr200/1961lark/My%201961%20studebaker%20lark/Tobeputindylansfile003.jpg
'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

studeclunker
04-10-2010, 05:12 PM
Nice, very, very nice![^]:D[8D]

I'd go one step further than Jack did and suggest you pull that speedo cable immediately! Hopefully, it hasn't been damaged. Just pull it out and lube it.

Ah... just to have one, just one car that looks as good as yours...[:p] I'm green with envy.[:o)]

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K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

raprice
04-10-2010, 06:51 PM
That is one handsome car. None of the things you mentioned are insurmountable. Gorgeous.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
Smithtown,NY
Long Island Studebaker Club

Yanqui84@gmail.com
04-10-2010, 07:05 PM
Gorgeous car. I would drive it everyday to work. Want to trade it for my 00 Lincoln Towncar? :D

BRUCESTUDE
04-10-2010, 11:34 PM
Lookin' good! And that interior is awesome, I think the clock delete plate looks better than a clock or tach![8D]

clonelark
04-11-2010, 03:58 AM
Took mine out for the first time this year, ran like i drove it yesterday. Beautiful car you have. Mine is a South Bend car, but i like your color better. Very fun cars to drive.

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DKing
04-11-2010, 11:24 AM
To Bill and the rest inquiring about the story/history of this car.

The good news is I know the whole story as this car was purchased new buy my grandmother in June of 1964 (I have a copy of the original title). Wolfe Motors in Corydon, IN was the selling dealer and my grandmother bought several cars from them.

She drove the car until 1972 and replaced it with a one-year-old Nova, straight 6, powerglide. At that time it had 46k miles on it. My Dad bought the car from her and stored it in a garage in Connersville, IN where we lived. In 1975, I got it out and used it to learn to drive in. I drove it for a year or so, but hated it. Trans Ams, Camaros and Corvettes had my interest and not the Kotex box on wheels.

Grandma lived on small old farm in southern Indiana and parked the car in a small barn with a dirt floor. So I attribute that to rust that developed on the rockers, lower front fenders, and quarter panels. She also gassed it up from a gravity tank in the barn that undoubtedly had a lot of sediment in it. So I’m sure the tank is full of crap.

While in High School, I took vocational autobody repair so my Dad had me repair and paint the car in school. This was my 1st car and it shows. The work did protect the car from further deterioration, but the repaired spots are starting to show through now. The paint has some overspray on the seals and such and is not very glossy. Those photos make it look better than it does in person, but it is a very presentable car. Current mileage is 46,900.

What I like about it is this is a true survivor car. Only the paint has been changed. No part of the powertrain, or interior has been disassembled, as far as I know. I did have to rebuild the fuel pump and that is coverd in another thread. I remember I replaced the headlamp switch right before I parked the car back in the garage in 1978 with a new one. Since this car was purchased in June of ’64, I am guessing that it is one of the last production cars made in CA.

Mom sold the garage in Connersville last April, so last Easter; I drove to Indiana with my trailer and retrieved the car from where I parked it 31 years earlier, recapped tires and all. Attached is a link to photo album that documents the trip and some shots of the car, nice and dirty.

http://picasaweb.google.com/kz78hy/1964StudebakerMovesToMI?feat=directlink

There is a video of me getting the car started for the 1st time. I was amazed that it ran with 30-year-old gas. It sure did stink and still stinks, as all that old gas has not yet been burned up. I have been putting “Sea Foam” fuel cleaner in with the fuel to see if it will help dissolve some of the old fuel. Only one fill up so far.

I was thinking of driving over to South Bend in May for that meeting there, we will see if that works out.

I am enjoying the message board and am more a lurker than writer.

David King


Here is a shot of my VIN tag, maybe the group can tell how many cars were made after this one.

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David King

1964 Studebaker Commander
1958 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham (615)
1966 Pontiac GTO convertible

SDC Member#: A011937K

DKing
04-11-2010, 12:27 PM
What is the recommened oil for the speedometer cable? I have a oiler w/10wt. in it and was thinking of using that.

Added note: I just pulled the car out and stuck my head under the dash (kind of hard for 49 year old fat guy). The cable where it is screwed in to the head unit has yellowish grease on the outside of the nut and cable for about 2 inches or so. I have never seen this on another car, just wondering if this is normal Studebaker assembly?

David

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David King

1964 Studebaker Commander
1958 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham (615)
1966 Pontiac GTO convertible

SDC Member#: A011937K

BobPalma
04-11-2010, 03:24 PM
:) No, Dave; don't use motor oil to lube the speedo cable. It will just gum up sooner or later.

Go to NAPA and buy a single-use bottle of their heavily-graphite speedometer cable lubricant. It will lube the cable properly and not gum things up in the long run.:D [8D]BP

DKing
01-12-2016, 09:26 PM
I am going to mess with the group and bump this thread back into circulation. It has been years since I've been on the forum as I've been the President of the Motor City Cadillac LaSalle club for 4 years and really the Eldorado Brougham's are my thing.

The garage is full and I have to make some space, and as much as I enjoy the occasional drive of the Commander, it really does not get exercised enough.

As noted in the thread above (or below), this car has been in my family since new and other than paint, is OE. Still has the original exhaust system on it.

This spring, I think the car has to find a new owner. Over Thanksgiving, I found the original owners manual and window sticker.

This group should appreciate the car more than the garden variety eBayer so I will start here with the advertising.

No price at the moment, and I understand how cool an unmolested car is as that is what I want to buy when I"m looking.

I've collected a complete overdrive setup for it ('63) and there are other spares that would be included in the sale. Almost 49k on the clock now.

I will post more detail later if there is any interest in the car.

Enjoy the photos as I checked the links, and they took me to the photos posted years ago.

David

drpreposterous
01-12-2016, 09:35 PM
Halloa from nearby Clawson! Perhaps you've seen my thread that spells out my yearning to swap my '79 Eldorado Biarritz for a Stude? Or maybe you know someone else in the local Caddy club that may enjoy this ride? Lemme know!

Thread is here:
http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?91230-79-Eldorado-Biarritz-coupe-in-nice-shape-SDC-discount-in-effect

studeclunker
01-13-2016, 12:05 AM
This is a wonderful car! We just picked up two in the '63 models. So wish the cash was available for yours! Do please decide what you will take for it and let us know well in advance. Takes a lot of time to count all those pennies, you know!50613

jackb
01-13-2016, 07:53 AM
Is this car a 6 cylinder ?

BobPalma
01-13-2016, 08:54 AM
Is this car a 6 cylinder ?

:) Yes, Jack; it would be.

No "8" parallelograms on the front fenders and the Serial Number begins CI, rather than C5, if it was a V8. :cool: BP

DKing
01-13-2016, 12:29 PM
Yes Jack, as Bob noted it is a 6 cyl.. This is a base car with only a heater and a RH mirror (which is useless). 3 speed column shift, no radio, rubber floor coverings, no power anything.

David

wittsend
01-13-2016, 03:37 PM
Above (#18) the VIN is posted for this '64 model Studebaker. It shows a "Made in Canada" plate and what appears to be a consistently spaced, 7 digit VIN. My "Made in Canada" 64 (Daytona) has a similar plate, but the VIN is 64VC-XXXX where X represents the number. My VIN is within (upward) 100 of the last four digits. Is there a reason for this difference?

jackb
01-13-2016, 04:16 PM
didn't read back the previous year posts...

BobPalma
01-13-2016, 04:16 PM
Above (#18) the VIN is posted for this '64 model Studebaker. It shows a "Made in Canada" plate and what appears to be a consistently spaced, 7 digit VIN. My "Made in Canada" 64 (Daytona) has a similar plate, but the VIN is 64VC-XXXX where X represents the number. My VIN is within (upward) 100 of the last four digits. Is there a reason for this difference?

:) Yes. It simply means your car was manufactured in Hamilton before January 1, 1964. After January 1, 1964, the numbering system changed to what you see on the subject car.

Here is the Serial Number plate on a nice 1964 Daytona Six 4-door sedan that somehow wound up in central Indiana:

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/DSCF1903.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/DSCF1903.jpg.html)

It, too, was manufactured in Hamilton before January 1, 1964. :cool: BP

wittsend
01-13-2016, 05:17 PM
Thank you. Were all Lark Types sequential in their VIN..., or did the Daytona, Challenger, Commander, Cruiser..., or I-6's and V-8's..., or American and Canadian get separate VIN's within their model exclusive of the designation before the dash "-". By that I mean could any two different Lark types (say a Cruiser and a Daytona) have had the same last four (or five) digits? Most VIN's don't make the changes Studebaker did. And while the car that is the subject of this post was built after mine the last four digits of the VIN are lower than mine (and, yes, I do understand that the numbers/letters before are different).

The reason I ask is because it seems rather confusing. There have been times where I've needed to enter the VIN for other cars I have and all they ask for are the last four digits.

I also noted that the 64VC portion on my car has those painted AND stamped. It appears the 64SC on your car is only painted?

BobPalma
01-13-2016, 07:02 PM
Thank you. Were all Lark Types sequential in their VIN..., or did the Daytona, Challenger, Commander, Cruiser..., or I-6's and V-8's..., or American and Canadian get separate VIN's within their model exclusive of the designation before the dash "-". By that I mean could any two different Lark types (say a Cruiser and a Daytona) have had the same last four (or five) digits? Most VIN's don't make the changes Studebaker did. And while the car that is the subject of this post was built after mine the last four digits of the VIN are lower than mine (and, yes, I do understand that the numbers/letters before are different).

The reason I ask is because it seems rather confusing. There have been times where I've needed to enter the VIN for other cars I have and all they ask for are the last four digits.

I also noted that the 64VC portion on my car has those painted AND stamped. It appears the 64SC on your car is only painted?

:) Wittsend: The Serial Number plate shown for 64SC 2835 is not my car; I just took the photo when I was considering buying it. You're right; the 64SC portion is painted, not stamped.

The Serial Numbers were sequential only as to the cars being sixes or V8s; body style and trim level have nothing to do with it. That is true for South Bend production and Hamilton production, both before and after January 1, 1964.

For example, if the Serial Number on your 1964 Daytona is 64VC 3456, Serial Number 64VC 3457 might be a Commander V8 two-door or a V8 Wagonaire.

'Same is true in South Bend. My 1964 Daytona convertible is stamped 64V4240. 64V4241 might have been a Commander V8 four door or even a Gran Turismo Hawk. :cool: BP