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Chris_Dresbach
02-13-2010, 07:14 PM
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/scan0002-1.jpg
Part of my collection. Notice the bottom right corner.:)[8D]

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

StudeSchack
02-13-2010, 07:18 PM
Looks like it is still available...if you want to restore one!

http://nh.craigslist.org/grd/1588464186.html



Ted
'57 Champion

53k
02-13-2010, 07:29 PM
That's really interesting. That must have been just after Studebaker bought Gravely. I had never seen or heard of that model. From the way the mower attaches, It looks like it is a Model L (two wheeler) built in to a rider body. I'll bet it is rear wheel steering.
Shortly after Studebaker took over, Gravely was moved to Clemmons, North Carolina (susposedly to break the union). They had to give up manufacture of their own cast iron, pressure oiling, bullet-proof engine in favor of Onans [}:)]. I imagine that Westchester died at the same time.



Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia. '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Daytona convertible, '53 Commander Starliner, Museum R-4 engine, '62 Gravely Model L, '72 Gravely Model 430

http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%20broken%20circle.jpghttp://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%201-1-08%20002.jpghttp://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%201-1-08%20004.jpghttp://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%201-1-08%20006.jpg

Chris_Dresbach
02-13-2010, 07:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeSchack

Looks like it is still available...if you want to restore one!

http://nh.craigslist.org/grd/1588464186.html



Ted
'57 Champion

If I got one, I know of one closer to South Bend. I could just see one of them with some big slicks on the rear and pipes sticking out under the hood breathin' fire!:D[:0][:p][8D];)

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

StudeSchack
02-13-2010, 07:31 PM
Get' em both...and start the Gravely Studebaker -only- race

Ted
'57 Champion

Chris_Dresbach
02-13-2010, 07:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by 53k

That's really interesting. That must have been just after Studebaker bought Gravely. I had never seen or heard of that model. From the way the mower attaches, It looks like it is a Model L (two wheeler) built in to a rider body. I'll bet it is rear wheel steering.
Shortly after Studebaker took over, Gravely was moved to Clemmons, North Carolina (susposedly to break the union). They had to give up manufacture of their own cast iron, pressure oiling, bullet-proof engine in favor of Onans [}:)]. I imagine that Westchester died at the same time.



Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia. '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Daytona convertible, '53 Commander Starliner, Museum R-4 engine, '62 Gravely Model L, '72 Gravely Model 430

http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%20broken%20circle.jpghttp://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%201-1-08%20002.jpghttp://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%201-1-08%20004.jpghttp://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%201-1-08%20006.jpg

I just looked up a picture of one turning, and yes they are rear wheel steering. That would make then near impossible to hot rod and race with out basically reversing everything, and that is not and easy job even on something as simple as a lawn tractor.:([V]

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

Chris_Dresbach
02-13-2010, 07:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeSchack

Get' em both...and start the Gravely Studebaker -only- race

Ted
'57 Champion

...I think I need a bigger yard...[B)]

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

Studecruiser64
02-13-2010, 08:44 PM
There aren't a whole lot of these left. Gravely took a 6.5 hp engine and got over 12 horses out of it. Unfortunately, when they did that they exceeded the capabilities of the aluminum crankcase. From what I hear from old dealers, the thing they did the best was fall apart.
However, if anyone has one of the "tophat" mowers shown on the front let me know. I need one for my Westchester !!!!

Gary1953
02-13-2010, 09:49 PM
My Dad bought a Gravely walk behind in 1967. I loved cutting the grass with that machine.


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/116-1-1-1.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

Chris_Dresbach
02-13-2010, 09:51 PM
Does anybody have a picture of under the hood one one of these things[?] I want to see how it can be modified.;)[8D][8]

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

Chris_Dresbach
02-13-2010, 09:58 PM
Also, does anybody have a photo of just the steering wheel on one of these? I looked at a odd shot of one and made a weird discovery. The gravely westchester steering wheel is basically identical to the Brooks Stevens prototypes, scepter, daytona/lark, and early wagonare that are in the SNM![:0] I wonder who influenced who[?];) I should buy one and put it on one of my racers.;)[8D]

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

Milaca
02-13-2010, 11:42 PM
Okay, I'll say it....that's the ugliest lawn mower I have ever seen! [:0]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2603/4186458840_06e63fc9bc_m.jpg
Flo (she loves Studes because they are progressive)
In the middle of Minnestudea

Chris_Dresbach
02-13-2010, 11:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by Milaca

Okay, I'll say it....that's the ugliest lawn mower I have ever seen! [:0]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2603/4186458840_06e63fc9bc_m.jpg
Flo (she loves Studes because they are progressive)
In the middle of Minnestudea

Girrr...[}:)] LOL

Bill Pressler
02-14-2010, 05:17 AM
Neat ad, thanks for posting.

I see that that is from 'Farm Journal'. I believe that is the only magazine I ever saw an ad for a 1964 Champ in. It was a B&W photo from the rear, so you could easily see the black "STUDEBAKER" tailgate letters.

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1 (sold new by Cordell Motors, Moorhead, MN)
'64 Daytona Hardtop (sold new by Carl E. Filer Co., Greenville, PA)


http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/44320019-3.jpghttp://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/broadway_filer_oct03-1.jpghttp://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/100_0690_00-1_3.jpg

StudeSchack
02-14-2010, 05:36 AM
Chris

Another club to join...might have the pictures you're looking for:

http://www.gravelytractorclub.org/

And don't miss the annual "mow-in"...

http://www.gravelytractorclub.org/pdf/Mow-In-2010/Mow-In_2010_Flyer.pdf


Ted
'57 Champion

53k
02-14-2010, 06:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeSchack

Chris

Another club to join...might have the pictures you're looking for:

http://www.gravelytractorclub.org/

And don't miss the annual "mow-in"...

http://www.gravelytractorclub.org/pdf/Mow-In-2010/Mow-In_2010_Flyer.pdf

I went to the first annual Mow-In at Dunbar, WV. I believe it was 1998. Pretty amazing the variety of Gravely stuff there. Many attendees toured the old Gravely plant.



Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia. '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Daytona convertible, '53 Commander Starliner, Museum R-4 engine, '62 Gravely Model L, '72 Gravely Model 430

http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%20broken%20circle.jpghttp://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%201-1-08%20002.jpghttp://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%201-1-08%20004.jpghttp://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/Copy%20of%201-1-08%20006.jpg

Gary1953
02-14-2010, 07:37 PM
Sounds like another club I know of.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/116-1-1-1.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

R2Andrea
02-16-2010, 06:56 PM
The Winchester was basically a modified Model L with rather "uniquely" styled body. IIRC it was Gravely's first attempt at a dedicated rider. It wasn't very successful and was only available for a few years. The engine was an OHV adaptation (shades of the flat head/OHV Champ 6 conversion) of the regular Model L. As far as power output goes, the highest rated Gravely motor was the 7.6, built from about '66 to the end of production in '76 or '77. After that they got "brand X" power.

R2Andy