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Waydon
02-10-2007, 10:47 AM
We have a 63 Lark 6 cyl, stick. This is the firewall pedals. Is a power brake booster all I need to convert from non-assisted to power brakes? I know some of the Studies use a vacuum canister, what would this be for, or is that just for the hydro-vac type?

mapman
02-10-2007, 10:55 AM
In 63 the power brakes were disk brakes. the entire system is different. There are modern conversions available but mixing systems is a very bad idea.
Rob

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Waydon
02-10-2007, 11:02 AM
quote:Originally posted by mapman

In 63 the power brakes were disk brakes. the entire system is different. There are modern conversions available but mixing systems is a very bad idea.
Rob

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Rob, I really don't want to go to the extra expense at this time of converting tofront disc. As long as this conversion is done correctly, wouln't it be alright ,as a lot of 60s cars had power, 4 wheel drum brakes?

JDP
02-10-2007, 11:06 AM
Rob misspoke, power drum brakes were a option and as you suggested, just need the booster added.

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64 Daytona HT
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63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
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62 Lark 2 door
62 GT Hawk 4 speed
60 Lark HT
60 Hawk
59 3E truck
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mapman
02-10-2007, 01:36 PM
JDP is right. there are several different power brake units listed in the chassis parts manual, with and without disk brakes. I am sure he or someone else on here can tell you which is which or if they all will work.
The more I learn about Studebakers the more I find I don't know.
Rob

mapman
02-10-2007, 10:11 PM
You got me to looking at the manual and I noticed that there is a hill holder and anti creep available on the 63s. I have seen the hill holder on a 63 but not the anti-creep. Has anyone? How about any of the cars with FOM? Just curious.
Rob

studeclunker
02-11-2007, 12:29 AM
Since your car has the suspended pedal, you will need a Master Vac booster. This will necessatate changing of your MC as well. The MC on the booster has a slightly different push rod as it comes out of the booster and the booster is attached to the pedal linkage. Most booster arrangements had the single res MC. There are setups with a double, though they are rare. Maybe someone else will post with compatible arrangements (Avanti, GM)? I don't know how they did it or if it works correctly, but my '63 wagon (not running:() has a boosted dual MC.
Hill Holder is about 200 bucks from Studebaker International. They're nice.

By the by, the wagon has finned drum brakes.

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StudeRich
02-11-2007, 02:31 AM
The Hill Holder goes on the manual Trans. cars and the Anti-Creep goes on the Studebaker Automatic as standard equip. optional on FOM cars. No I or no one I know has ever heard of a 1956 or later with Anti-creep installed. After people got used to Automatic Transmissions, they learned to hold the brake pedal, -no need for them!


quote:Originally posted by mapman

You got me to looking at the manual and I noticed that there is a hill holder and anti creep available on the 63s. I have seen the hill holder on a 63 but not the anti-creep. Has anyone? How about any of the cars with FOM? Just curious.Rob

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