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Milaca
02-10-2010, 04:44 PM
http://www.southbendtribune.com/article/20100208/THRIVE/912019936
Studebaker parts business to stay in city.

By Jeff Parrott
Tribune Staff Writer

SOUTH BEND — The city took steps Friday to clear some of the last remaining Studebaker buildings in preparation for Ignition Park, the nanotechnology park envisioned as the key to the city’s economic future.

The city’s redevelopment commission voted to spend $841,000 in tax increment financing money toward that end, including $686,000 to buy out two five-year lease options with Teachers Credit Union for control of the Studebaker Autoparts Sales Corp., or SASCO, building at Franklin and Sample streets.

Don Inks, city economic development director, said TCU, which recently repossessed the parts after Dennis Lambert fell delinquent on his payments to buy them, will vacate the building by Feb. 15. The city will have the structure, which once housed Studebaker’s engineering and innovation work, demolished in time for redevelopment in 2011, Inks said.

TCU had told the city that it wanted to exercise its option to stay in the building at least another five years. But Inks said a quick demolition is critical because the demolition process would be disruptive to any nanotechnology firms the city hopes to attract.

Richard Nussbaum, the attorney who has represented the city in the deal, said TCU has reached an agreement with a buyer for the Studebaker parts. That individual plans to keep the parts in South Bend and continue making them available for sale to Studebaker vehicle owners.

The SASCO inventory includes more than 30,000 parts. Up until 1999, they had been stored in a former Studebaker building across Sample Street, but the city arranged for their move to their current home to make way for construction of the new St. Joseph County Jail.

Commission member David Varner said the new Studebaker parts buyer plans to move the parts to vacant space in the former AM General engine plant on Chippewa Boulevard. Mike Hardy, the attorney representing TCU in the negotiations, could not be reached Friday to confirm that.

Varner cast the lone vote against the lease buyout, saying it's too much money to spend now because he does not believe Ignition Park will develop that quickly.

"I didn't see the urgency in it," said Varner, predicting it will be at least two to three years before someone will be ready to move from Notre Dame's soon-to-be-opened Innovation Park.

The city hopes Ignition Park will attract nanotechnology startups after they've conceptualized and developed research in Innovation Park.

The commission also voted to spend $155,000 in TIF money to buy the former Airgas facility in the 900 block of South Lafayette Boulevard, in the Ignition Park area's far northeast corner.

Airgas recently vacated the building after consolidating its operations in Elkhart. Commission President Marcia Jones asked David Relos, a city economic development planner, whether Airgas is leaving behind any costly environmental cleanup for the city. Relos said he knew of no such potential costs.

Relos said a company that works with electric vehicles has expressed interest in the Airgas site, once the building is cleared, but no deal has been finalized.

Relos said the city also plans to buy the still-operating Hamilton Towing building across the street from Airgas, as soon as it can help Hamilton find another site near downtown.

Edit: To be honest, I don't see anything new in this article that wasnt already shared here late last year. Perhaps the South Bend Tribune is desperate for news?

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SnowLark
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COMMANDERPINK1
02-10-2010, 07:38 PM
Nothing really newsworthy here. As you said most of this was stated earlier in other articles. They must been in need of a filler.
Tom

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StudeRich
02-10-2010, 07:56 PM
Yep, I think Jeff is just Parroting! :D

StudeRich

Chris_Dresbach
02-10-2010, 10:06 PM
.............[xx(]:([V]:([}:)][B)] ...But I wouldn't mind talking to David Varner, he sounds like he could be a possible help to stall the demolition of #92:D;););)[8D]
(No Spark Park);)
But I must say, if any good at all came of this, plant 3&4 (new home) is a much better place for the parts to stay. Everything is organised much better, Ed has done a great job. If you have ever seen the upstairs of #92, the structure of the building is not the problem, it was a mess! If you have not seen the new facility (plant 3/4 a.k.a. "Aviation plant"), I gurantee you will be very impressed, and you could (I don't reccomend this) about eat off the floors, (do not try the test cells[xx(]). Who knows, if #92 can get saved, maybe this would be a good excuse to clean it.[:o)]

Chris Dresbach
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Milaca
02-10-2010, 10:45 PM
It saddens me that building #92 couldnt have been kept for Ed's use as a parts repository for a reasonable monthly lease fee. The amount he has to pay for leasing an area in the Aviation plant is outrageous. What happens when or if the income from parts sales doesnt pay the lease? I hope it all works out okay.

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SnowLark
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StudHawk60
02-11-2010, 09:56 AM
I'm still amused that the city thinks it could even REMOTELY utilize all that acreage. Why is the city suddenly in a rush to have even more empty lots?[xx(] Everything in SB has been moving to Mishawaka for the past 30 years anyway.[V]

studegary
02-11-2010, 10:17 PM
There is a LOT of empty Class 1 and better space in East Fishkill, NY that is searching all over the World for someone to buy or lease parts of it. These are top quality facilities built by IBM. Some have been in use for chip fabrication as recently as a couple of months ago. Other than a lower cost of living and a better tax structure, I don't see how South Bend can compete with many places like this. Of course, there are all kinds of incentives to get companies to move here.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

Invalid User Name
02-12-2010, 06:12 AM
Can someone fill me in on the nanotechnology thing? Why has S.B. decided that suddenly they will become the center of this industry? As a total outsider, I am confused.

Doug
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Jeff_H
02-12-2010, 07:58 AM
I am pretty skeptical about nano-tech in the real near future at least. Maybe in a few years.

This company put up a fancy new building across the street from my office in 2005 to make smart (RFID) tags:

http://www.alientechnology.com/

Trade mag article from 2005 about it:

http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/1357/1/1/

The place never fully ramped up and after the economy went down they closed it last spring:

http://www.wday.com/event/article/id/20874/

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/240624/

The building is for sale! For $7M you can have a basically new high-tech mfg building.

Here is the sale flyer:

http://www.business.nd.gov/uploads/resources/337/alien-technology-building-brochure.pdf

Seems to me with existing buildings suitable for IC and chip mfg like this and the ones Gary mentions, it would be the way to go rather than build new. This type of mfg requires clean rooms, etc and that means a lot of special infrastructure in the buildings for the HVAC
systems. Also could mean suspended floors for vibration.

IC mfg has been moving out of the US for years along with other electronics mfg so lots of empty building around already.


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Milaca
02-12-2010, 10:06 AM
Somebody should inform South Bend that they are competing with China. Dream on South Bend.

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[b]SnowLark
In the middle of Minnestudea

Chris_Dresbach
02-12-2010, 04:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by Invalid User Name

Can someone fill me in on the nanotechnology thing? Why has S.B. decided that suddenly they will become the center of this industry? As a total outsider, I am confused.

Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
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Nanotechnology is the extreme science of taking something the size of an atom (as in "nano") and making a product. Something like the microchip in a cell phone is an example of nanotechnology. Here is the down side, the ground has to be perfectly stable. The area where Studebaker is literally vibrates when the trains go by, we can feel it in #92. Something like this really belongs in literally the middle of nowhere where the ground is stable. Another reason why the ground can't handle this is because indiana (and South Bend) is on a fault line, so we get the ocasional earth quake or tremor. It is the same fault responsible for the quake in Illinois the other day. Why South Bend would want this is anybodys guess, probably somebody is making a few bucks from it. I would guess that if anybody into nanotechnology would move there, they would see that the ground vibrates and would move out in a short amount of time on their own.

Chris Dresbach
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Chris_Dresbach
02-12-2010, 04:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by Milaca

Somebody should inform South Bend that they are competing with China. Dream on South Bend.

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[b]SnowLark
In the middle of Minnestudea

Been there, done that, no response.[B)]:(

Chris Dresbach
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stude62
02-12-2010, 05:15 PM
Personally, I think they are doing it because they can. And because tearing things down in this nation has become the only way you can prove that you are getting something done.

Somone has decided that the future is in nano technology and the guy at the next desk said "yeah, we can get all this done and say that we are doing it to attract nano techology, great idea Boyd!"

Ten years from now they will be sitting around the same set of desks and say "It was a shame that those Studebaker buildings came down, we could have rehabbed them into office condos.";)

When the pendulum swings too far in one direction, it starts to swing back in the opposite direction. Thats government.



Stu K

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Chris_Dresbach
02-13-2010, 11:39 AM
quote:Originally posted by stude62

Personally, I think they are doing it because they can. And because tearing things down in this nation has become the only way you can prove that you are getting something done.

Somone has decided that the future is in nano technology and the guy at the next desk said "yeah, we can get all this done and say that we are doing it to attract nano techology, great idea Boyd!"

Ten years from now they will be sitting around the same set of desks and say "It was a shame that those Studebaker buildings came down, we could have rehabbed them into office condos.";)

When the pendulum swings too far in one direction, it starts to swing back in the opposite direction. Thats government.



Stu K

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So true.:([xx(][V]:([}:)][B)]

Chris Dresbach
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comatus
02-13-2010, 11:53 AM
Brilliant observation. There was a joke in Kiplinger's Changing Times back in the 60's that went, "A generation is the length of time between when they tear down an old eyesore and when they build a historical replica of it."

I tried to save the elementary school that my father and I and my son attended. I might as well have been spitting into the wind. The winning argument was that the old building was not hard-wired for computers, and the new building now has wi-fi.

When you go to commit public funds to "improvement," the first thing you sell the rubes is a shiny new building. In education, this is called "Same bulls**t, bigger barn."

mbstude
02-13-2010, 12:29 PM
Truth is, most people don't care about Studebakers or the buildings they were made it. South Bend has a nice museum dedicated to the factory and its products, the buildings are run down and I can't see anyone spending that much money to renovate any of them. When I was at SASCO in '07, I thought for sure the roof was about to cave in. [:o)]

After nearly 50 years of empty, dilapidated factory buildings, I think it'll be nice to see SOMEthing being made in South Bend again. And even if nothing comes in right away, they're taking a good step towards it. The population of South Bend has been looking at those eye sore buildings for far too long. Seeing them all in person was a neat experience. But once the novelty wears off... They're just old buildings.

rockinhawk
02-13-2010, 12:53 PM
Someone once said"American people tear down their permanant buildings to put up temporary ones"

In europe there are castles that have been there for several centurys Who knows how long ago the pyramids were built? When was the first brick laid on the great wall of China?

Only in America do we choose not to honor our heritage and not protect and preserve our historical buildings.

This from someone who makes a living putting up NEW buildings. NT


Neil Thornton
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Milaca
02-14-2010, 01:07 AM
quote:Originally posted by rockinhawk

Someone once said"American people tear down their permanant buildings to put up temporary ones"

In europe there are castles that have been there for several centurys Who knows how long ago the pyramids were built? When was the first brick laid on the great wall of China?

Only in America do we choose not to honor our heritage and not protect and preserve our historical buildings.


I agree with you Neil. Sometimes it costs less to build new as remodeling can be very expensive but other times its just ignorance or vanity.

In my small hometown the armory was closed a few years ago. This is a brick building with offices, gymnasium and a garage in the basement and was very well maintained by the state of MN. When the state decided to close it due to downsizing state wide, it gave the building to the city. The city in turn sold it for one dollar to some quack that had dreams of turning it into a junk store, which never happened! Not long after the public library in town was crying for a new library as it outgrew its existing facility. The armory would have been perfect for a library, especially since it was across the street from a city park with playground equipment and only a few blocks from the schools. Instead, something like 1.5 million dollars was spent to build a smaller building that was built much farther from the schools and offered less parking. A good example of government waste at a local level.

In 1982, the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome was opened in Minneapolis being that the sports teams were crying for an indoor stadium to replace the existing outdoor stadium. This was the home for the MN Twins baseball team and the MN Vikings football team. About 12 years ago, the Twins began to cry for an outdoor stadium (which they once had) and now this spring a brand new multi-million dollar outdoor stadium opens which was (and will be) partly funded with local sales tax. Of course, this means that the Vikings are also crying for a brand new stadium and are threatening to leave the state unless they get one. How is it possible that a once state of the art indoor sports stadium needs to be replaced within 20 to 30 years? I think it may have a lot to do with outdoing or besting ones neighbors. If a city gets a new school, then the neighboring city also wants a new school (but bigger & better of course). If a state gets a new sports stadium, the the neighboring state wants a new sports stadium too (but bigger & better of course).

It's all okay though, because China will loan us the money for it. Right? And the construction for new unneeded buildings and the demolition of good, useable buildings is good for the economy as it provides well paying jobs for a select few (even though the money used to fund these projects is borrowed from China).

Ever watch the show 'Extreme Home Makeover' on ABC network? Have you seen some of the nice homes demolished with an excavator and then loaded into roll-off boxes so that it can be hauled away to landfills? Just another example of there being too much waste in this country.

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Flo (she loves Studes because they are progressive)
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PlainBrownR2
02-14-2010, 01:32 AM
quote:
I tried to save the elementary school that my father and I and my son attended. I might as well have been spitting into the wind. The winning argument was that the old building was not hard-wired for computers, and the new building now has wi-fi.

When you go to commit public funds to "improvement," the first thing you sell the rubes is a shiny new building. In education, this is called "Same bulls**t, bigger barn."


This situation is alot more complicated than it appears, especially when socioeconomics around the district, performance of the students, population density and type, property tax money, and new money comes into play. I will say from work done in my ESL program there were a couple places in the country where this fell flat on it's face, mainly due to they received new stuff, but forgot about the talents of the teachers. Personally I like using a new building because everything is available in the classroom, much like a new car, than a building not equipped to handle neither student nor teacher needs.

The same is also true of those buildings. Prior to them coming down I pulled the Google images, as well as have pictures of the old buildings on the PC. It was only a matter of time before they started to disappear. Heck, the new sod fields around the Foundry a few years ago was a good indicator that they were going to disappear pretty quick.

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GTtim
02-14-2010, 11:52 AM
I just went to bing.com to have a look and what to my surprise, they must have been flying over taking pictures during the spring swap meet because there are Studebakers in the images of the SASCO building. Check it out:http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qy9rvs7tbwmz&scene=15725267&lvl=2&sty=b&where1=W%20Sample%20St%20%26%20Franklin%20St%2C%20South%20Bend%2C%20IN%2046601


Tim K.
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GTtim
02-14-2010, 12:05 PM
So I just went and looked up the fairgrounds and sure enough, we are there too. This is too cool! http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qy31gr7tfn9h&scene=15738673&lvl=2&sty=b&ss=yp.st%402%20joseph%20county%20fairgrounds~pg.1
Do you think if we checked at York and Reedsville we would be there also?
Kinda weird if you think about it.

Tim K.
'64 R2 GT Hawk

DEEPNHOCK
05-08-2016, 09:43 AM
(update 5/8/2016)

http://www.wowo.com/studebaker-complex-gets-millions-financing-redevelopment/

(snippet copy - see link for complete article)

Studebaker complex gets millions in financing for redevelopment

By Tom Franklin (http://www.wowo.com/author/tfranklin/) -
May 8, 2016

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SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP): A group seeking to rehabilitate three buildings that were formerly part of a Studebaker Corp. complex in downtown South Bend has secured nearly $23 million in financing.
Entrepreneur Kevin Smith envisions converting the Studebaker complex into a center of innovation with space for manufacturing, technology firms, business incubators, training and education. Smith is CEO of the nearby Union Station Technology Center.
The South Bend Tribune reports (http://bit.ly/1XavT7d) the financing is primarily for two buildings that have about 220,000 square feet of space. The entire three-building project covering about 1.17 million square feet is expected to cost $146 million.
Union Station Technology Center spokesman Shawn Peterson says the financing will allow the project to turn the corner and move more aggressively to future phases.