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Chris_Dresbach
02-03-2010, 07:00 PM
Was playing on the net again and found some old pics of the Newman and Altman building, the old home of sasco before the engineering building. I decided to post them along with some of my own snap shots from working at the engineering building. Now the N&A pics show the main showroom and parts, I really wish I could have seen it, but I was only 5 when the first move happened.:([V] So I am really interested if you have any pics of the old N&A building before demo. Now for the engineering pics, these are just some I took when I had a minute, and [b][u]THEY DO NOT SHOW PARTS. I POURPOSELY DID NOT PHOTOGRAPH TOO MUCH OF THAT BECAUSE I AM DOING THIS TO REMEMBER THE GOOD TIMES WE HAD IN THE BUILDINGS.</u> So with that, enjoy.:)
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/NA1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/NA2.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/NA3.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/NA4.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/NA5.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/NA7.jpg
N&A building. Studebaker building #53/58 1874-2000 R.I.P.[xx(][V]
And now engineering:
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/100_0102.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/100_0101.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/100_0087.jpg
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http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/100_0085.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/100_0081.jpg
I know those are scrap bins, but rest assured, we are saving more than we scrap. In fact, we save almost everything.:D *Fyi, some of the scrap is just useless junk that was left there before sasco. Remember, this was not only sasco and the engineering building, but a warehouse for south bend toy, the welfare office, and south bend lathe used it for office space. A lot of the scrap is not even Studebaker.
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/100_0080.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/100_0077.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/100_0066.jpg
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http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/100_0060.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/sascotrim.jpg
This is the only parts room pic, and it's just stainless. Yes, it was all saved.
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/100_0079.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/100_0100.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/100_0076.jpg
Cold room
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/100_0062.jpg
Yes, they are being saved too.
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/100_0063.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/100_0084.jpg
Remember, this is for the buildings, not a sneak peak of parts. Hope you liked the pics.:)

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

doug
02-03-2010, 07:35 PM
I've never been there. Thanks for the pictures.

Flashback
02-03-2010, 07:40 PM
Thanks for posting these. I have never seen this in person, and
some us may never see what remains, unless we see it here. THANKS
AGAIN!!!!!![^] ;)

Tex E. Grier
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn320/Flashback53/DSC_0045-3.jpg

Radsman
02-03-2010, 07:43 PM
The room with the curved lower wall I believe was the room used for photographing
prototypes and such, correct?

Ricardo
02-03-2010, 07:44 PM
Thanks for the work to post these interesting photos. As well as Flashback I have note been there and most probably never will be.
It is a good way to know more about "our buildings".

Ricardo from Chile

Studebakerchile
http://www.tuerca.cl/studebakerchile/

RareBird
02-03-2010, 08:10 PM
Last time I was at N/A I was just a kid - 15 or so. Thanks for the memories. Wasn't there a 55 or 56 Packard Clipper in the store back then (mid 70's) ?

http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu300/PackHawkDaddy/P6230004.jpg

Packardbakerly,
J.D.

paynestude
02-03-2010, 08:24 PM
I believe you are correct. When I saw it last(10 years ago) it looked like a photography studio....the floors/walls curved to give no shadows. Way cool building!


quote:Originally posted by Radsman

The room with the curved lower wall I believe was the room used for photographing
prototypes and such, correct?

bams50
02-03-2010, 08:29 PM
Very nice Chris. Great effort from our resident SDC Forum young'un[^]

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.patrioticon.org/images/flag1-1.gif
GOD BLESS AMERICA

Milaca
02-03-2010, 08:43 PM
Nice job Chris, cool pictures. I was at the Newman-Altman store twice and the last time was in 1991 if I recall and there was a 1955 or 56 Packard Carribean convertible in front of Dennis' office. Did anyone else see this car? Between the two visits at the store, I remember purchasing a Lark shifter boot for a 4-speed and stainless trim for the front fenders on a '63 Lark. I still have the stainless fender trim in the original paper sleeves with price stickers on them that state a price of $18.00 each. What are they worth now? :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2671/4149448710_41d6dfe9bc_t.jpg
SnowLark
In the middle of Minnestudea

studeclunker
02-03-2010, 08:44 PM
Boy, I'd love to have that compressor!:D It's even already on a pallet.[^];) Ready to go even.:D

When did you take the shots of the Engineering Building, Chris?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/december%2006/HPIM0234.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/56%20Parkview%20Wagon/56wagonleftfrontclipped-1.jpg
Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

55champion
02-03-2010, 09:00 PM
Very nice thanks for posting

j.byrd
02-03-2010, 09:18 PM
WOW !!!, just WOW !!! I'd never seen Studebaker heaven. Thanks so much, John

COMMANDERPINK1
02-03-2010, 09:34 PM
Thanks CHRIS The first time in South Bend I brought my 7yr old daughter with me and we stopped at N/A and snapped a photo of her at the entrance with the painted wall, it was great . Also made another stop at the Museum in the old Spicer building (rest in peace) its a moment I'll always will remember.

Tom

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TOMLSEXTON/Iowa036.jpg

58PackardWagon
02-03-2010, 09:48 PM
Those were the days..........

58 Packard Wagons
63 Lark R2
62 Lark Skytop

Chris_Dresbach
02-03-2010, 11:00 PM
Anybody want a repost of all the pictures from the foundry tour?

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

8E45E
02-03-2010, 11:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by Chris_Dresbach

Anybody want a repost of all the pictures from the foundry tour?


Post the link to it.

Craig

Chris_Dresbach
02-03-2010, 11:03 PM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E


quote:Originally posted by Chris_Dresbach

Anybody want a repost of all the pictures from the foundry tour?


Post the link to it.

Craig

I have too much other stuff in that album now, so I would do them all indivigually.

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

Chris_Dresbach
02-03-2010, 11:24 PM
All of these are from the foundry:
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing034.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing046.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing045.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing044.jpg
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http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing042.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing041.jpg
LOL. Andy...
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing040.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing038.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing037.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing036.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing035.jpg
Great friend of mine.
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing034-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing061.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing060.jpg
a.k.a "Bordeaux Daytona"
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing059.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing058.jpg
another great friend of mine.
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Giannasblessing057.jpg
looking up a cupola
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[IMG]http://i768.photobucket.c

Chris_Dresbach
02-03-2010, 11:28 PM
Yes, the foundry tour. It was Saturday November 28th, 2009 at 9:30am, Thanksgiving weekend. 46 people showed up from as far as PA and all other directions. I organised it all and one worker from the foundry lead. It was a day I will remember for a very, very long time.:D

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

ozarkman
02-03-2010, 11:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

Boy, I'd love to have that compressor!:D It's even already on a pallet.[^];) Ready to go even.:D

When did you take the shots of the Engineering Building, Chris?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/december%2006/HPIM0234.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/56%20Parkview%20Wagon/56wagonleftfrontclipped-1.jpg
Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?


I was thinking the same thing...I need a compressor![:p]

From deep in the Ozarks...

Fred

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/ozarklark/OzarkTtrailLogoSmall.jpghttp://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/ozarklark/P1140079.jpg http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/ozarklark/StudebakersofArkansas2-1.jpg

8E45E
02-03-2010, 11:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by Chris_Dresbach

That's the foundry!:)


I didn't get as many pics of it when I went, but here a link to the ones I took.

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12137&SearchTerms=nikon

Craig

Mark57
02-03-2010, 11:52 PM
Some neat pics...:)[^] thanks for sharing Chris. [8D]

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/046a.jpg

showbizkid
02-04-2010, 12:06 AM
Great pictures, Chris! I'm a big fan of urban archaeology, so this is nearly Nirvana :)


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
www.studebakersandiego.com

Chris_Dresbach
02-04-2010, 12:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

When did you take the shots of the Engineering Building, Chris?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/december%2006/HPIM0234.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/56%20Parkview%20Wagon/56wagonleftfrontclipped-1.jpg
Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?
When I was/am working over there in between doing stuff. I just kept my camera in my pocket and usually after lunch break I would take photos of whatever while I walked to where I was working.


Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

avantilover
02-04-2010, 01:15 AM
Would it be fair to suggest that soon, if not already, there will be nothing left of Studebaker in South Bend?

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

Lenny R2
02-04-2010, 05:46 AM
Thanks for sharing Chris,great pictures,when i went to the meet in 07 we had the STF dinner
at SASCO i could not believe the amount of parts.

Lenny
Atlanta Ga.

Chris_Dresbach
02-04-2010, 02:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by avantilover

Would it be fair to suggest that soon, if not already, there will be nothing left of Studebaker in South Bend?

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia


Gosh I hope not, but there is not much left.:([xx(][V]:([}:)][B)][:0]:(:(:(

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

Deaf Mute
02-04-2010, 04:14 PM
Way up the thread the comment was made about the curved wall base in one room of the engineering building. Yes it was used for the artwork. They could take a photo of a car with no shadow lines in the background and superimpose that photo an any background in the world... France, New York City, England, etc. There was even one ceiling support column left out of the area when the building was constructed.... since it was on the second (and top) floor they didn't need the support that one additional post would give. There was also a very narrow walkway behind the curved based wall... it was not a supporting wall. I helped SASCO move from the NA building a couple times and toured and shot photos before Dennis packed it too full of parts to move around. I also shot some photos in the NA building.
Hopefully an empty engineering building will be tourable during the May swap meet.

duane miller

JBOYLE
02-04-2010, 04:31 PM
Nice photos.
Whose Avanti with Halibrands?
Being a new guy, i haven't seen many with them...I might order a set from Myers for mine.


63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

PlainBrownR2
02-04-2010, 04:32 PM
That's an interesting use of a building. It sounds like what they did was if they were debuting a car, or working up designs for a car, that they would take a picture of the vehicle, and then place it in a scene where the car might be driven or sold. They didn't have Photoshop of course, so they painted up a wall, and then placed said photo of vehicle or prototype in the scene, and then judge if the car would work, or if the design needs to be revised. I could imagine a situation like this one:

"Well, the vehicle will work in New York, but that front end is too blocky. Blot out those lines there on the front."

"Like that?"

"Exactly. It looks better. Take the picture back to the clay mold and rework those lines on the clay mold. Reshoot the mold and come back and see if it 'clicks' in the backdrop."

[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/55%20Studebaker%20Commander%20Streetrod%20Project/P1010531-1.jpg[/IMG=left]
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[IMG=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/Ex%20Studebaker%20Plant%20Locomotive/P1000578-1.jpg[/IMG=right]
[IMG=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201964%20Studebaker%20Commander%20R2/P1010168.jpg[/IMG=right]

Chris_Dresbach
02-04-2010, 04:52 PM
quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

Nice photos.
Whose Avanti with Halibrands?
Being a new guy, i haven't seen many with them...I might order a set from Myers for mine.


63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

The Avanti belongs to Ed George. He is the same guy standing at the foot of a cupola holding a green light housing in the foundry pics.

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg

sbca96
02-04-2010, 04:55 PM
Any of those out in California may remember Frost & French, and also
Charles Schintledge (sp?)? Then there was Studebaker of California.

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

raprice
02-04-2010, 05:15 PM
Thanks for all those great pix. I was last at the old Newman Altman building in '97 for the Int'l Meet in South Bend. Little did I know that it would be gone so soon after.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
Smithtown,NY
Long Island Studebaker Club

rjohnston79
02-04-2010, 05:18 PM
In one of the pics, I see the back windshield I need for my '63 Daytona resting on top of a box covered with dust. Take care of it, OK?

(lol)

Ron Johnston
1963 Studebaker Daytona HT
http://i49.tinypic.com/2nv9c7o.jpg

Chris_Dresbach
02-04-2010, 10:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by Deaf Mute

Way up the thread the comment was made about the curved wall base in one room of the engineering building. Yes it was used for the artwork. They could take a photo of a car with no shadow lines in the background and superimpose that photo an any background in the world... France, New York City, England, etc. There was even one ceiling support column left out of the area when the building was constructed.... since it was on the second (and top) floor they didn't need the support that one additional post would give. There was also a very narrow walkway behind the curved based wall... it was not a supporting wall. I helped SASCO move from the NA building a couple times and toured and shot photos before Dennis packed it too full of parts to move around. I also shot some photos in the NA building.
Hopefully an empty engineering building will be tourable during the May swap meet.

duane miller

Can you post the pics of the N/A building[?]:)

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1.jpg