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Swifster
02-05-2007, 12:16 AM
OK, so I've been kicking around an engine. I'll admit this site has weakened me a bit. I'm actually willing to stick a 289 in my Daytona. But, what will it cost me to source a rebuildable 289 with a good, reusable crankshaft. The car came as a roller with no engine. I'm in the southeast portion of the country. I'm looking for a full flow block for a performance build.

I work in the auto body business so I'm tied into a GM dealer where I can get a 350 crate engine at cost plus 5%. I'm also looking at a couple of GM V6 options. I'm trying to compare what the costs will be (approximately). I'd have to rebuild the V6 too, if I go that route.

Ideas or suggestions?

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

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Roscomacaw
02-05-2007, 12:24 AM
If you were closer I'd GIVE you a core to work with.:)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Swifster
02-05-2007, 09:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

If you were closer I'd GIVE you a core to work with.:)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle


Hmmmmmm...[}:)] Be careful Bob, I might have the shipping company head your way. ;)

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

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studelover
02-05-2007, 10:23 PM
I am in the same boat as you, I have friends that can get me a 350 at cost, I have two 61 hawks both have 289 and auto trans. The thing is I want to stay totally studebaker but the cost to do a stude motor is almost twice as much for a crate motor. I have decieded to remove my motor and send it to a studebaker guy here near me and he says he will pull it apart and fix what is bad in the motor. If it just needs rings and a valve job, some honing he will do that, this blocks have alot of nickel:D You can tell a 289 motor by the P in the code on the drivers side front. Good luck with your project, if you are in Florida are you near Stephen allen?

Studebakers forever!

Swifster
02-05-2007, 10:40 PM
quote:Originally posted by studelover

...if you are in Florida are you near Stephen Allen?

Studebakers forever!


I'm about an hour and a half. I haven't been there as they are not open on weekends. I work M-F and don't leave work until an hour after S-A closes :(.

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

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stude_s
02-06-2007, 12:24 AM
Ok, not trying to hijack Swifsters thread here! What do you guys think a rebuildable 259 is worth?
I have found a possible builder locally but unsure of the value (engine spins 3/4 of a turn and stops). Yes, this seems dim to some however the original 259 out of the lark is toast(can't remove 3 pistons from the block due to rust, etc), and this appears to be the best option at this time! Yes, I to have considered the S*C and F**d swaps but I would like to keep it Stude if possible. Thx in advance for the input.

PackardV8
02-06-2007, 01:24 PM
Hi, stude s,

Econ 101 mentions time and place utility. Most long-time Stude owners can tell stories of being offered a complete running 289" for free - "just come get it and haul it away." Other times and places, a NOS 289" crankshaft sold recently on eBay and will cost the buyer $650 by the time he has it home.

Bottom line, take some time and look around for a complete, solid core 259". They are plenty of them still out there and will cost less in the long run than piecing together rusty junk. You might even be offered one for free. :D

thnx jv.

PackardV8

Roscomacaw
02-06-2007, 07:17 PM
stude s,

I wouldn't think you'd wanna give more than $200 at the MOST for a "core" 259. This is defined as one that turns freely but is of unknown condition - might run - might not. For $200 I'd expect everything to be there, save for maybe the carb.
I'd prefer a full-flo (late) block but there's nothing wrong with the earlier blocks. From an originality standpoint, the full-flo's didn't get into cars until somewhere in the '62 year run. Either way, from a functionallity standpoint it doesn't matter. In fact, the 289 I'm putting in my 57 truck is a full-flo block. The thing about the Full-Flo is that all the oil is directed thru the oil filter before it goes up to lubricate the moving parts. But... Studebaker only offered partial flo filters as an option on the V8s from 51 thru 62 and that seemed to work just fine!:D

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe