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Laemmle
01-06-2010, 09:54 PM
Well it's the new year and the A-Hole has listed the clone R-3 avanti for the forth time on e-bay.

As I mentioned I drove out to see this one of a kind auto........should have stayed home and watched tv:-(

jallen
01-07-2010, 08:52 AM
Post a link!!!!!!

bams50
01-07-2010, 09:25 AM
http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=36977



Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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GOD BLESS AMERICA

Swifster
01-07-2010, 04:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by owner

A extremely rare classic performance Avanti like this one does not come to market very often.

Sure it does. In fact it comes to market about once a month :D.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2161.27)

1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/The%20Daytona%20File/Avatar%20Size/01-01-05TheStartingPoint.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/The%20Daytona%20File/Avatar%20Size/07-17-07FrontClipRemoved.jpg

Avanti82
01-07-2010, 05:09 PM
quote:Originally posted by Laemmle

Well it's the new year and the A-Hole has listed the clone R-3 avanti for the forth time on e-bay.

As I mentioned I drove out to see this one of a kind auto........should have stayed home and watched tv:-(


Just sent you an email about the car. Really would appreciate your personal evaluation from your visit viewing the car.

Steve.

Laemmle
02-22-2010, 06:07 PM
Can you believe it?

This R-3 clone is on the 'bay yet again......I count five times.....guess ya can't turn a cows ear into a silk purse.

sbca96
02-23-2010, 12:28 AM
Does it have the upper control arms relocated?

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

Laemmle
02-26-2010, 02:12 AM
Call me nuts, for this money the little things should have been taken care of.

Look at the tach........it needs to be re-painted........black paint is flaked off........interior is far from mint........four speed is non stick shifter handle and the boot and rim.......this car should never demand pedigree prices........it is what it it......a Plane Jane that had it's engine swapped.........an attempted clone of the factory nine that Stude actually built.

I was not impressed when I viewed this 'classic' up close and personal:-(

studebaker-R2-4-me
02-26-2010, 10:06 AM
I would not trust the condition of the R3 engine either, based on personal experience.

studeawakening
02-27-2010, 07:08 AM
I have personally seen, worked on and drove this car, although might not be totally a factory correct R3 clone it is a jamb up car. I had it up on my rack and the underneath is very nice, and the interior is in above average shape. The car drives correctly and is very fast and fun to drive. The car is a deal at the price even in this bad economy The reason it keeps coming up for auction is because of the economy not because of anything wrong with the car. I have met the owner several times and he is a very nice guy. What makes the guy an A-hole ? because he has listed the car several times?. I think maybe some one ought to look at who the A - hole is here, it is negative comments and bashing like this that drive many people away from our club

art copeland

mdelapp
02-27-2010, 08:40 AM
Ebay is a store. If you don't want to shop there, don't.
Pretty simple


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COMMANDERPINK1
02-27-2010, 09:19 AM
quote:Originally posted by Laemmle

Well it's the new year and the A-Hole has listed the clone R-3 avanti for the forth time on e-bay.

As I mentioned I drove out to see this one of a kind auto........should have stayed home and watched tv:-(


You will see relisting all the time on E-Bay does that back them all A-Holes. Think not! Just means the right buyer and seller has not come together yet.

Tom

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TOMLSEXTON/Iowa036.jpg

Laemmle
02-27-2010, 01:00 PM
A fool and his money:-(



quote:Originally posted by COMMANDERPINK1


quote:Originally posted by Laemmle

Well it's the new year and the A-Hole has listed the clone R-3 avanti for the forth time on e-bay.

As I mentioned I drove out to see this one of a kind auto........should have stayed home and watched tv:-(


You will see relisting all the time on E-Bay does that back them all A-Holes. Think not! Just means the right buyer and seller has not come together yet.

Tom

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TOMLSEXTON/Iowa036.jpg

jnormanh
02-27-2010, 04:30 PM
Why is this guy an A-hole? Maybe he's "puffed" his ad a bit as to condition, but the nuts and bolts description of the car and the photos are honest and accurate, aren't they? He's pretty clear that's it's a clone, or a re-engined car, whatever you want to call it.

Is he an A-hole because he thinks the car is worth more than you do?

I'm not in the market, but if I were, I'd make what I thought was a fair bid for it. If I bought it, fine, if not, the seller and I can both move on.

I've looked at many, many cars that I passed on because the owner thought more of them than I did, but that didn't make them A-holes.

And I once advertised a car a half-dozen times over several years until a buyer and I agreed on a price. Does that make me an A-hole?

Laemmle
02-27-2010, 06:01 PM
I really don't know, only you know if you are an A-Hole[?]



quote:Originally posted by jnormanh

Why is this guy an A-hole? Maybe he's "puffed" his ad a bit as to condition, but the nuts and bolts description of the car and the photos are honest and accurate, aren't they? He's pretty clear that's it's a clone, or a re-engined car, whatever you want to call it.

Is he an A-hole because he thinks the car is worth more than you do?

I'm not in the market, but if I were, I'd make what I thought was a fair bid for it. If I bought it, fine, if not, the seller and I can both move on.

I've looked at many, many cars that I passed on because the owner thought more of them than I did, but that didn't make them A-holes.

And I once advertised a car a half-dozen times over several years until a buyer and I agreed on a price. Does that make me an A-hole?

Laemmle
02-27-2010, 06:02 PM
I really don't know, only you know if you are an A-Hole[?]



quote:Originally posted by jnormanh

Why is this guy an A-hole? Maybe he's "puffed" his ad a bit as to condition, but the nuts and bolts description of the car and the photos are honest and accurate, aren't they? He's pretty clear that's it's a clone, or a re-engined car, whatever you want to call it.

Is he an A-hole because he thinks the car is worth more than you do?

I'm not in the market, but if I were, I'd make what I thought was a fair bid for it. If I bought it, fine, if not, the seller and I can both move on.

I've looked at many, many cars that I passed on because the owner thought more of them than I did, but that didn't make them A-holes.

And I once advertised a car a half-dozen times over several years until a buyer and I agreed on a price. Does that make me an A-hole?

Invalid User Name
02-27-2010, 06:21 PM
Laemmle, If you have such a dislike for this guy and his car, why don't you give him a call and explain your point. The name calling and criticism are really lame. It makes all of us look bad. [B)]

Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
9G F1
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/w4jdz/Stu-1.jpg

candbstudebakers
02-27-2010, 06:28 PM
Laemmle, who ever you are? you seem to get off bashing every body with each post and yet you are not man enough to have your name or location in you profile, I think you are starting to get on others nerves, maybe its time to back off or get off. my profile shows who I am...Bob

Candbstudebakrs
Castro Valley,
California

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Johnnywiffer
02-27-2010, 06:32 PM
My feeling is, unless the person is lying, listing a car for sale makes the seller just that—a seller. Nothing more. If he has listed that car many times, it makes him a DETERMINED seller—a guy who doesn’t give up. For some reason, I thot that was the American way. My image of an American is a person who, against all odds, just DON’T give up. If I am wrong, please advise me where.

And in my opinion, if you think about it, calling a seller a derogatory name because he DOESN’T give up—not only does an injustice to the seller, it does an injustice to America. And the person who calls someone a derogatory name JUST because that other person is TRYING, in my opinion, really isn’t being as good an American as he could be.

I thot we CHEERED for the underdog. I thot the team who kept on TRYING and comes from behind to win the “Big Game” was looked upon as a WINNER. Again, if I’m wrong please point out where.

So can we stop this PETTY name calling and bickering? Let’s act like adults—American adults!

John

edpjr
02-27-2010, 06:34 PM
Hey, I'm certainly not gonna criticize this guy or his car. So he wants a whopping $32K for a great looking '64 Avanti with an R3 transplanted motor. I've got a '63 Avanti with an R1 and S/C (who knows what happened to the original R2 in 47 years and 125K miles) for which I paid $15K. Including new paint and just my latest repair bill from last week of $2054, I've invested at least an additional $10K in it. And, it's still not running right yet and needs some interior work. Meanwhile, folks like SI, SP, Bob Helms, Jon Myer, Dave TeBow and the eBay crowd love me for all the $$$ I've spent with them. The ONLY thing I've got on this cloned R3 is a better color (IMHO). You think I'd give my car and $7K (or $10K) in trade for this R3 clone with 56K miles??? Any day! [}:)] ;) [^]

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu136/edpjr/63Avanti11-09.jpg

edp/NC
'63 Avanti
'66 Commander

Mr Speed 53
02-27-2010, 07:02 PM
I own a clone R-3 Avanti that will not hopefully be on E-bay until I am dead,it was put together by George Krem in 1969.The engine was built with single breather valve covers because thats all they had left,also the last one built with R-3 heads.So maybe would be in the same spot as the guy selling this car, but dont care am happy anyway with the facts not opinion.Ed

Starlight
02-27-2010, 07:04 PM
Bob....I could not said it better.......Keep on Studebakering

Laemmle
02-27-2010, 11:01 PM
I actually traveled out to his home and saw the car close up and personal.

Look........I think the entire issue is laughable.....to be an R-3 Avanti, is an Avanti that rolled from the line in South Bend. Purchasing a R-3 engine and installing it does not make the car an R-3 Avanti. Sorry, it's just not how I see things.... Indeed when one actually is front of this car it is easy to see all of the flaws.....little sheet turns me off......especially for a car demanding so much money........the tach bezel.....needs to be sanded and re-painted......I could list lots more......for 30-60 K I want a darn near 100 perfect automobile


quote:Originally posted by Invalid User Name

Laemmle, If you have such a dislike for this guy and his car, why don't you give him a call and explain your point. The name calling and criticism are really lame. It makes all of us look bad. [B)]

Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
9G F1
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/w4jdz/Stu-1.jpg

Invalid User Name
02-28-2010, 06:37 AM
You're still missing the point! You can present these facts in a polite way without calling names. You also have to remember that a car is worth what someone will pay for it. It is not our job to call people A-holes if they want to hold out for a higher price.

Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
9G F1
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/w4jdz/Stu-1.jpg

Avantidon
02-28-2010, 12:46 PM
Here's another 64 Avanti R-3 (Clone) for sale. This one is located in Pennsylvania and was assembled by Jim DeSilva and his Dad.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk161/avantidon/Scan20004.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk161/avantidon/Scan20008.jpg

This one is a 4-speed and runs quite well. Anyone interested? It's not cheap.

Laemmle
02-28-2010, 02:14 PM
Just a purest to my core:-)



quote:Originally posted by Invalid User Name

You're still missing the point! You can present these facts in a polite way without calling names. You also have to remember that a car is worth what someone will pay for it. It is not our job to call people A-holes if they want to hold out for a higher price.

Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
9G F1
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/w4jdz/Stu-1.jpg

raoul5788
02-28-2010, 08:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by Invalid User Name

You're still missing the point! You can present these facts in a polite way without calling names. You also have to remember that a car is worth what someone will pay for it. It is not our job to call people A-holes if they want to hold out for a higher price.

Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
9G F1
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/w4jdz/Stu-1.jpg


Don't bother trying to reason with him, Doug. This is the same guy that two years ago posted the NE Zone Meet was canceled even though it wasn't and then wouldn't have the common decency to apologize for posting that wrong information. He's not even stand up enough to post his name here.


Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon on the road!

edpjr
02-28-2010, 10:13 PM
That would be "purist."


quote:Originally posted by Laemmle


Just a purest to my core:-)



quote:Originally posted by Invalid User Name

You're still missing the point! You can present these facts in a polite way without calling names. You also have to remember that a car is worth what someone will pay for it. It is not our job to call people A-holes if they want to hold out for a higher price.

Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
9G F1
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/w4jdz/Stu-1.jpg



edp/NC
'63 Avanti
'66 Commander